http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59142 --- Comment #22 from Zeb Figura <z.figura12@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Rafał Mużyło from comment #21)
On one hand, you might be right that they might not know, but how would *you* get them to learn those basics ?
"You can get the whole file more easily by redirecting to a file, e.g. `wine foo.exe &>log.txt`. See also <https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/FAQ#how-can-i-get-a-debugging-log-aka-terminal-output>"
Cause: a) sometimes the basics suffice to carry you for quite a bit; in this context, I personally actively know very little past the basics of shell redirection/autoconf syntax, yet on many occasions it had been still enough for my private use when I've tinkered in the past with some semi-abandoned projects, that needed minor fixes/updates there, yet some of the constructs in the resulting configure script tend to baffle me...
And many Linux users have never interacted with the terminal at all, ever. That's a good thing! That also means that teaching someone to file a bug report is going to take a decent amount of effort given how far away from what it is they're used to.
b) given than one of those bits comes from wine's bug filing guide (well, maybe one reference away), do you actually discourage reading those ? yeah, bit of a strawman here, yet...
No, of course not, but I would rather have this bug report, with its flaws, and type a simple sentence like above explaining how to do something, than not have it because I'm too elitist to not drive the user away from the project.
"the most rude and aggressive" ...not even close on the first (and that's only if you feel the need to read that as rude) and not at all on the second
Hyperbole notwithstanding, yes, your responses are very rude and aggressive.
"Your practice of discouraging people..." Not my intent, quite the opposite actually...but, well, snowflakes... Yeah, yeah, I know, on occasions I'm bit of a one too, still... Everyone has their snowflake/idiot moments every now and then, it's how you get back on the track that matters.
Then please get back on track by adopting a much more neutral and helpful tone from now on. If you don't have the patience for that, please stop responding to bug reports. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.