[Bug 19158] New: The Bat! 4.2.6 doesn't start because of Themida on OS X
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Summary: The Bat! 4.2.6 doesn't start because of Themida on OS X Product: Wine Version: 1.1.24 Platform: Macintosh OS/Version: Mac OS X 10.5 Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: -unknown AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: domiman(a)gmail.com When you run The Bat! version 4.2.6 it won't start because of a security lib Ritlabs uses for The Bat! 4.1x upwards from Themida. The error message is Themida - "Cannot open oreans.vxd driver. Make sure that oreans.vxd is not open by another program" This happens with my self compiled Wine 1.1.24 and prebuilt versions of (Dar)Wine 1.1.21 and 1.1.23. Googling seems to show that this is only an issue for Wine on OS X and the Themida/Oreans stuff. This bug is related to bug #18918 and has also been reported to the forum at http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p=26132&sid=46f54a257a527a985869d8f824... The download link to The Bat! is http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php (Home or Professional versions are the same, only the extras are different, so no matter which version you choose) My system: Intel iMac, OS X 10.5.7, XQuartz 2.3.3.2 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |obfuscation Platform|Macintosh |PC -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Ken Sharp <kennybobs(a)o2.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #1 from Ken Sharp <kennybobs(a)o2.co.uk> 2009-07-11 10:51:24 --- VXDs can not be supported by Wine. See Bug 18719. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Ken Sharp <kennybobs(a)o2.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #2 from Ken Sharp <kennybobs(a)o2.co.uk> 2009-07-11 10:51:48 --- Closing wontfix. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 --- Comment #3 from domiman(a)gmail.com 2009-07-11 11:55:48 --- Thanks for clarification. I'm not sure whether that problem also occurs with non-OS X builds, but if yes, I see your reasoning. Time to annoy Ritlabs with requests to throw that extra security out of their software. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Yaroslav <th-net(a)yandex.ru> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |th-net(a)yandex.ru --- Comment #4 from Yaroslav <th-net(a)yandex.ru> 2009-07-21 10:05:11 --- That is not really VXD problem. So even WinXP Bottle apps with Themida packing search for oreans.vxd, but that file boesn't exists at all in real XP system with that apps installed. So i means we digg incorrect way. Same Apps will work at linux box, but MacOS X That also happens with CommFort client: http://www.commfort.com/download/commfort_client.zip (4.4 Mb) (CommFort software Ltd http://commfort.com ) And many other software. I suppose that embed oreans protection incorrectly detects OS version (but only in MacOS) and try to use VXD instead NT driver (sys or so) If somebody can help me trace this issue, may be i can provide more info about. I have some programmer skills, but i'm new in nix desktop development. Feel free to contact me via email Suggest that ticket must be reopened. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 --- Comment #5 from domiman(a)gmail.com 2009-07-26 10:53:12 --- (In reply to comment #2)
Closing wontfix.
As Yaroslav wrote and as someone confirmed on the inofficial German The Bat! Forum, this error only occurs on Wine running on OS X (current version of TB! starts fine under Wine on Ubuntu). So this problem is only apparent under OS X AND happens on all "bottles", including the NT based bottles that shouldn't even have a vxd problem to begin with. I'd also ask for reopening this bug. Please re-evaluate the problem. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |UNCONFIRMED Resolution|WONTFIX | --- Comment #6 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2009-07-26 11:49:16 --- Reopening, most of the times messages about .vxd are red-hearing. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Ken Sharp <kennybobs(a)o2.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |download URL| |http://www.ritlabs.com/en/p | |roducts/thebat/download.php -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 pasketi(a)mbnet.fi changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #7 from pasketi(a)mbnet.fi 2009-08-21 01:14:45 --- *** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. *** -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 --- Comment #8 from domiman(a)gmail.com 2009-09-18 10:38:33 --- It *seems* that bug is fixed in the current beta of The Bat! (current beta is 4.2.10.12 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb421012.rar <- that link is probably going to be dead once the next beta comes out). Ritlabs is no longer using compression on their exe files and thus the problem vanished. I tested this right now with a Wine 1.1.27 Version and Crossover Mac 8.01 (Wine 1.1.18 based). I'll monitor this issue and will report again, once a final version of TB! is released. Mac Version: Snow Leopard 10.6.1 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 --- Comment #9 from domiman(a)gmail.com 2009-09-19 03:52:11 --- I found this entry at Oreans Website http://www.oreans.com/ThemidaWhatsNew.php Themida [2.1.0.0] (14-Aug-2009) [+] Full compatibility under MAC/Wine and MAC/Crossover So I guess the problem was fixed by Oreans and *should* no longer bother up to date programs. I'd consider the bug nonvalid now, the problem still exists for old programs, though. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 accolon(a)gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |accolon(a)gmail.com --- Comment #10 from accolon(a)gmail.com 2009-09-20 12:24:55 --- It seems like the most recent release of The Bat! (v4.2.10, August 26th 2009) already uses the fixed Themida. The Bat! is now running fine using Wine 1.1.29 (installed via MacPorts) on Mac OS X 10.6.1. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Louis Lenders <xerox_xerox2000(a)yahoo.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC| |xerox_xerox2000(a)yahoo.co.uk Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #11 from Louis Lenders <xerox_xerox2000(a)yahoo.co.uk> 2009-10-25 14:28:19 --- (In reply to comment #9)
I found this entry at Oreans Website http://www.oreans.com/ThemidaWhatsNew.php
Themida [2.1.0.0] (14-Aug-2009) [+] Full compatibility under MAC/Wine and MAC/Crossover
So I guess the problem was fixed by Oreans and *should* no longer bother up to date programs. I'd consider the bug nonvalid now, the problem still exists for old programs, though.
I ran that Commfort program from comment #4, and that program runs fine too in current git. So something must have been fixed on wine's end as well. Resolving fixed. If someone still runs into trouble please reopen -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 domiman(a)gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #12 from domiman(a)gmail.com 2009-10-29 15:43:02 --- it's not fixed for old TB! and TB! Voyager versions on Wine 1.1.32 (OS X). Also the program from comment #4 does not run as well. The installer runs, but the program that gets installed, does not run. The usual problem with the oreans.vxd. Wine 1.1.32 was compiled/installed via MacPorts. On the one hand it's great that Themida fixed this problem for programs that use their protection NOW but it is sad for programs that are older and do not have that fix. I wrote them for advice on how to handle this but I have received no reply. I reopen this for now, feel free to chastice me and close it again :) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 --- Comment #13 from Yaroslav <th-net(a)yandex.ru> 2009-10-29 18:52:25 --- (In reply to comment #12)
it's not fixed for old TB! and TB! Voyager versions on Wine 1.1.32 (OS X). Also the program from comment #4 does not run as well. The installer runs, but the program that gets installed, does not run. The usual problem with the oreans.vxd.
Agree and confirm: installer runs well, but program doesn't. Developers promise to compile with new fixed themida only in next 5 generation. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 --- Comment #14 from Louis Lenders <xerox_xerox2000(a)yahoo.co.uk> 2009-10-30 03:08:52 --- Created an attachment (id=24441) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=24441) commfort running
Also the program from comment #4 does not run as well. The installer runs, but the program that gets installed, does not run. The usual problem with the oreans.vxd.
Well, it does start here, see attached screenshot. What wine-version do you use? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 --- Comment #15 from domiman(a)gmail.com 2009-10-30 03:52:00 --- [quote]Wine 1.1.32 was compiled/installed via MacPorts.[/quote] Are you on OS X? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 --- Comment #16 from Louis Lenders <xerox_xerox2000(a)yahoo.co.uk> 2009-10-30 19:36:09 --- (In reply to comment #15)
[quote]Wine 1.1.32 was compiled/installed via MacPorts.[/quote]
Are you on OS X?
Nope, Linux. Sorry, I should have read bug title better, (problem only occurs on OS X) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Joerg Schiermeier <newsletter(a)Schiermeier-Software.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |newsletter(a)Schiermeier-Soft | |ware.de --- Comment #17 from Joerg Schiermeier <newsletter(a)Schiermeier-Software.de> 2010-01-02 21:37:46 --- Hi! The actual version of 'The Bat!' (2010-01-03: v4.2.16.2 Christmas Edition) didn't use this library anymore. The company behind (RitLABs) 'The Bat!' changed it. So this bug could be closed. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 --- Comment #18 from Yaroslav <th-net(a)yandex.ru> 2010-01-02 22:13:52 --- Yes, can be closed. CommFort released new version with new themida. But problem still exists globally w/ themida and GameGuard -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Louis Lenders <xerox_xerox2000(a)yahoo.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |ABANDONED --- Comment #19 from Louis Lenders <xerox_xerox2000(a)yahoo.co.uk> 2010-01-03 12:32:23 --- (In reply to comment #17)
Hi!
The actual version of 'The Bat!' (2010-01-03: v4.2.16.2 Christmas Edition) didn't use this library anymore. The company behind (RitLABs) 'The Bat!' changed it.
So this bug could be closed.
ok then. Thanks for testing -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Louis Lenders <xerox_xerox2000(a)yahoo.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #20 from Louis Lenders <xerox_xerox2000(a)yahoo.co.uk> 2010-01-03 12:32:45 --- cloasing abandoned -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19158 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS/Version|Mac OS X 10.5 |Mac OS X -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
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