[Bug 12743] New: 3D Studio MAX 7.0 locks up when loading combustion plugin, cmbtex.dlt
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Summary: 3D Studio MAX 7.0 locks up when loading combustion plugin, cmbtex.dlt Product: Wine Version: 0.9.59. Platform: PC URL: http://files.filefront.com/3dsmax7exe/;9389592;/fileinfo .html OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: enhancement Priority: P2 Component: ole AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: rockinup1231(a)gmail.com Created an attachment (id=12400) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12400) Output from terminal for the various scenarios I tested, organized. The program simply can't utilize that combustion plugin. I removed the plugin before starting it, and it worked just fine, but without any texture, particle, or lighting features. With and without the ole32 DLL override, it mentions that quite a few richedit features are not implemented yet, and when the program is run, it pushes this line out quite a few times. fixme:d3d:IWineD3DSwapChainImpl_Present Unhandled present options 0x33f384/0x33f384 It also says this at random moments while you do things with the 3D POV windows. fixme:xrender:X11DRV_AlphaBlend not a dibsection The main issue that I think needs to be looked at is getting the program to start without needing to remove the combustion plugin. For the URL I have placed the only download location I could find. Autodesk no longer keeps a copy on their servers for the public, as the program has been replaced by newer versions (although it's not too old). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #1 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-22 16:31:36 --- Also, their 30 day trial is built into the full copy of the software. If you don't register it within 30 days you can't use it is the condition. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #2 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-22 16:49:59 --- Once again I wasn't quite clear enough in the attachment...by "normal conditions", I mean just running it without moving the plugin. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|ole |-unknown -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dank(a)kegel.com --- Comment #3 from Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> 2008-04-23 12:03:06 --- That URL is a little squiffy, but the checksum matches the one posted at http://bitzi.com/lookup/NPU7DYLYGVT3EM3LLKLRXQHB4VBVKO7Q Can somebody who did a direct download from discreet.com back in the day post the sha1sum for their 3dsmax7.exe? Also, to be clear, does the app require native overrides even without the combustion plugin? The appdb entry is confusing on this score. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #4 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-23 15:16:47 --- (Sorry about that, I'll clarify). No, it only needs DLL overrides if the combustion plugin is left in place. I slowly narrowed it down over the past few days to which DLL's are needed to get past the splash screen, and they would be the two mentioned in the attachment: ole32.dll and riched20.dll. Using native riched20 makes the messages about richedit functions that haven't been implemented yet go away, and ole32 keeps the program from locking up When these DLL overrides are used, it loads up the splash screen and loads the plugins like normal, but instead of locking up when it reaches the combustion plugin, it says the plugin could not be loaded, then continues on, loads up most of the window, and crashes. Basically, it's possible to get past the plugin using native DLL's...but the app won't work. I'll try to clarify this better on the appDB. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #5 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-23 16:19:56 --- (In reply to comment #4)
(Sorry about that, I'll clarify).
No, it only needs DLL overrides if the combustion plugin is left in place. I slowly narrowed it down over the past few days to which DLL's are needed to get past the splash screen, and they would be the two mentioned in the attachment: ole32.dll and riched20.dll. Using native riched20 makes the messages about richedit functions that haven't been implemented yet go away, and ole32 keeps the program from locking up
If all you're doing is silencing messages in terminal, please don't use native DLLs. Only use them to workaround *actual* problems. Sounds like an OLE error, a +ole,+oledlg trace would probably be useful. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #6 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-23 18:06:56 --- (In reply to comment #5)
If all you're doing is silencing messages in terminal, please don't use native DLLs. Only use them to workaround *actual* problems.
Sounds like an OLE error, a +ole,+oledlg trace would probably be useful.
I was using it to try to solve a problem. I was assuming that using the native DLL fixed the issue. Before having read the last post on here, I tried some other things. Like, installing dotnet20, corefonts, riched20, and vcrun2003 with winetricks to see if it made any difference running the program. My reasoning is that some newer versions of this app on the appDB mentioned installing the .NET Framework (which I understand, if it's needed, although I don't recall that being a requirement, it's probably a waste of time to bother with this app until support improves). It didn't make any difference. So, after starting with a new .wine directory (to get rid of the .NET framework) I tried the +ole, +oledlg trace. It didn't produce any new info about ole, but I did notice something new (see attachment). This time when I installed it, and ran it, the program had to skip over some enviroment variables. I'm not 100% positive since I'm no WINE guru in any way, but I assume that's related to a registry error. If so, that would also explain classes that ole complains about not being registered, and thus be an issue where the installer registers what need be during installation. (So far, the times I have installed the program I didn't bother starting the installer from the terminal because it seemed to be working properly.) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #7 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-23 18:09:28 --- Created an attachment (id=12421) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12421) Terminal output, with ole and oledlg trace. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #8 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-23 23:33:23 --- (In reply to comment #7)
Created an attachment (id=12421) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12421) [details] Terminal output, with ole and oledlg trace.
justin(a)Linux:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/3dsmax7$ wine 3dsmax.exe +ole,+oledlg Should be: justin(a)Linux:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/3dsmax7$ WINEDEBUG=+ole,+olddlg wine 3dsmax.exe &> /tmp/log.txt Then attach /tmp/log.txt (compress with bzip2 -9 if larger than 1 MB). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #12421|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #9 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-25 19:08:11 --- Created an attachment (id=12477) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12477) OLE/OLEDLG Trace I apologize for the wait, but I did the trace properly this time (thanks for the help, btw). Also, I downloaded that file from FileFront and compared the hash to my copy of the file. They were both the same, so I'm sure it safe to assume the installer is corruption-free. (The installer I have been using I downloaded some time ago and have had it around ever since.) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #10 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-23 15:43:41 --- Is this still an issue in current (1.1.6 or newer) wine? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #11 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-23 18:57:35 --- (In reply to comment #10)
Is this still an issue in current (1.1.6 or newer) wine?
Yeah, still is. I'll pull together another trace and see if there is anything different as compared to the old one. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #12477|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #12 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-23 19:12:06 --- Created an attachment (id=16835) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=16835) +ole,+oledlg trace: Wine-1.1.6 Cmbtex.dlt is mentioned near the end of the trace, which I'm going to guess is where the signifigant part of the trace is. I'm not as experienced as the rest of ya, so I really don't know what to make of it. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- URL|http://files.filefront.com/3|http://files.filefront.com/3 |dsmax7exe/;9389592;/fileinfo|dsmax7exe/;10541739;/fileinf |.html |o.html -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #13 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-23 19:41:30 --- I've updated the URL for this (and for the other 3DS Max 7 bugs). The program (the download is trial) can be downloaded there. Sorry for making so many comments. :S -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #14 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-24 10:27:28 --- *** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. *** -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #15 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-24 18:07:32 --- Tried again with Wine 1.1.7, still an issue. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #16 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-26 20:46:31 --- Is this still an issue in current (1.1.20 or newer) wine? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #17 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2009-10-06 16:47:51 --- It is still an issue in Wine 1.1.30. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #18 from Chris Coleman <attitude_35215(a)yahoo.com> 2010-02-25 16:36:43 --- Created an attachment (id=26492) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=26492) This is the Log for 3D Studio max 7 each section is broken down for clarity Ok after adding the combustion reg key I can get the program to start up and so far, everything is functional nevertheless, when I open the material editor to select a map or material max crashes. I have the back trace at the end of the document attached but I need some help. If you remove the plug-in from the directory the material editor lets, you select a texture with no crash yet, when it is loaded, it crashes. I have found another strange thing. I could not get Max 7 to load with wine 1.1.30 and up without triggering an ACIS error. However, after trying to install Max 9 on 1.1.39, which still crashes during install I went to load Max 7 and it now works. I am sure there was some common key that was loaded during the install of Max9 that allowed Max 7 to work properly. I tend to discover the strangest things sometimes but I think I am getting close to making this program work properly. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #26492|application/octet-stream |text/plain mime type| | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alias|3dsmax7cmb | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #19 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2011-03-29 19:29:55 CDT --- This is your friendly reminder that there has been no bug activity for 6 months. Is this still an issue in current (1.3.16 or newer) wine? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 --- Comment #20 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2011-05-01 21:54:27 CDT --- This is still an issue, tested against wine 1.3.19. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Frédéric Delanoy <frederic.delanoy(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |frederic.delanoy(a)gmail.com --- Comment #21 from Frédéric Delanoy <frederic.delanoy(a)gmail.com> 2012-02-23 04:47:45 CST --- Is this still an issue in recent (1.4-rc4 or newer) wine? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |ABANDONED --- Comment #22 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2013-11-13 15:38:24 CST --- No reply in over a year, and no download. Resolving abandoned, if anyone is still able to reproduce this in the current development version (currently 1.7.6) feel free to reopen. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12743 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #23 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2013-11-13 15:40:19 CST --- Closing. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
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