[Bug 17927] New: Morrowind: Massive texture flickering
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 Summary: Morrowind: Massive texture flickering Product: Wine Version: 1.1.18 Platform: PC-x86-64 OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P2 Component: directx-d3d AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: mehdi.yousfi(a)gmail.com Created an attachment (id=20260) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=20260) NPC's head flickering Most (if not all) textures flicker. This only happens in outside areas. It also looks like a Z-fighting issue. It can be best seen on NPCs (cf attached screen shot taken from JMS who first reported the bug here: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3383). Then gersen and Christian Beckhaeuser confirmed the bug in this thread. The bug seems to require a motion to be seen as the flickering is constant on NPCs (and also on me when in 3rd person view), but requires me to move or turn my character in order to see it on still elements like doors, windows, trees, ground... On big elements, it can be best seen on texture intersections. Note that the closer I am from a considered element, the less I see this bug: when close to a NPC, only its articulations flicker, but from a further distance, the whole head (or even arms, legs, armor...) flickers. If it can help: I also noticed this bug on Cedega versions from 6.1.1 to 7.1.1 (current). However the bug disappear with Cedega 6.1.0. And the game simply doesn't run with versions below 6.1.0. This bug is *really* bothering, and I'm very well motivated to do anything which could help fixing it. My configuration: Wine 1.1.18, Ubuntu Intrepid 64, Morrowind GOTY 1.6.1820 (French), laptop Sager NP2096 / GPU NVidia 9600M GT 512Mo, drivers x86_64-180.44 / CPU Intel P9600 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 Jeff Zaroyko <jeffz(a)jeffz.name> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|major |normal --- Comment #1 from Jeff Zaroyko <jeffz(a)jeffz.name> 2009-04-01 21:49:42 --- not major, http://bugs.winehq.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 --- Comment #2 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-02 00:06:02 --- Looks fine for me in git. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #3 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-02 02:06:30 --- Err, nevermind, I see what you mean now. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 --- Comment #4 from Mehdi Yousfi-Monod <mehdi.yousfi(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-02 09:14:28 --- Thank you for correcting the bug severity (and sorry for the mistake). Another remark: gersen and JMS reported that the bug disappears if downgrading the NVidia driver to version 100.14.19. However this is a quite old driver that does not support recent GPUs like mine (http://appdb.winehq.org/commentview.php?iAppId=1015&iVersionId=3383&iThreadI...). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 john.moonsugar <john.moonsugar(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |john.moonsugar(a)gmail.com --- Comment #5 from john.moonsugar <john.moonsugar(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-02 13:08:24 --- A windows user reported the same problem to me (they were using the same card I have, the 9750GT) and said that they were able to configure their system to use the z-buffer setting of "D24X8" instead of the default "D24S8", and this fixed it. But I have no idea how to set that on Linux. -JMS -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 --- Comment #6 from Mehdi Yousfi-Monod <mehdi.yousfi(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-02 13:18:17 --- It can been done using MGE (Morrowind Graphics Extender, http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5535), but I was not able to make it working well under Linux. It requires an installation of .NET (and I also had to install DirectX 9). I did it using Winetricks (with something like "sh winetricks corefonts directx9 dotnet20"), which allowed me to launch MGE. Unfortunately, changing Z-buffer settings didn't seem to impact Morrowind. MGE does some DirectX tricks and fakes, so I guess it can't work with native wine dlls. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 --- Comment #7 from joaopa <jeremielapuree(a)yahoo.fr> 2009-04-02 13:32:55 --- Anyway, the initial bug report is not a Wine bug, since it occurs in Windows too. So, the bug should be marked as INVALID. Open new bug report for other bugs. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |austinenglish(a)gmail.com --- Comment #8 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-02 13:49:14 --- Can someone run the regression test: http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 --- Comment #9 from john.moonsugar <john.moonsugar(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-02 14:00:47 ---
Anyway, the initial bug report is not a Wine bug, since it occurs in Windows too. So, the bug should be marked as INVALID.
As I understand it, while the flickering occurs with some graphics cards under Windows, it is also fixable under Windows as Windows users have the ability to modify the z-buffer settings. It would be great if there also an easy way to do this under Wine, if that is at all possible. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 --- Comment #10 from Mehdi Yousfi-Monod <mehdi.yousfi(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-02 17:03:30 ---
Can someone run the regression test: http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting
I followed the howto for 64bits architectures (http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit) the wine started to compile. However each version below 1.0.0 I tried stop compiling with errors (‘VIF_MASK’ undeclared (first use in this function)). Starting with 1.0.1 I know the bug is here as this is the Ubuntu wine stable version. Also I tried wine 0.9.60 package for Hardy 64 and the bug was still here. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 Tobias Jakobi <liquid.acid(a)gmx.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |liquid.acid(a)gmx.net --- Comment #11 from Tobias Jakobi <liquid.acid(a)gmx.net> 2009-06-17 17:36:27 --- I think this is a duplicate of http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14633. Seems to only affect nvidia cards so far. I can't reproduce it on my Radeon HD3200. I'm checking again once I get a lowcost NV card (probably 8400 series). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 Ethan Baldridge <baldridge.ethan(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |baldridge.ethan(a)gmail.com --- Comment #12 from Ethan Baldridge <baldridge.ethan(a)gmail.com> 2009-11-08 01:03:24 --- I am also affected by this bug. I tried to use MGE (Morrowind Graphics Extender) to resolve the problem but after generating a d3d8.dll file which forced the use of a 32 bit depth buffer, Morrowind failed with: err:module:attach_process_dlls "d3d8.dll" failed to initialize, aborting err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\morrowind\\morrowind.exe" failed, status c0000005 Setting an override for d3d8.dll=builtin allowed Morrowind to run again, but of course it doesn't fix the blinking hair/helmets/banners/doors/windows/signs/water/etc. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 spammaster(a)madtracker.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |spammaster(a)madtracker.net --- Comment #13 from spammaster(a)madtracker.net 2010-01-11 07:47:06 --- I am also affected by this bug but after some research it seems that it is a driver issue. I came accross this small article which brings some light on this problem. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforcefx,581-12.html basicly what I understand from this article is that some applications use the "ChoosePixelFormat" command to get the right depth buffer size. My guess is that wine picks up this command from the game and sends it to the opengl driver. Then the graphics card sets up the wrong depth buffer of 16-bits (because of the bad driver) and we get nasty z-fights. I am not a programmer so what I propose could be ridicoulus. Is it not possible to let wine choose the depth buffer. Or better say intercept the ChoosePixelFormat command and send a working command to the driver so that we can decide which depth buffer gets used? On a further notice. After testing Morrowind under cedega and crossover games. It seems that wine is coming out better. Under wine the z-fighting is less severe. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 --- Comment #14 from Mehdi Yousfi-Monod <mehdi.yousfi(a)gmail.com> 2010-03-02 13:20:51 ---
I think this is a duplicate of http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14633.
I finally agree, it seems to be the same bug: z-fighting and flickering on nvidia cards. I also see the same water bug from the top of the Seyda Neen lighthouse. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 Mehdi Yousfi-Monod <mehdi.yousfi(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |DUPLICATE --- Comment #15 from Mehdi Yousfi-Monod <mehdi.yousfi(a)gmail.com> 2010-03-02 13:23:12 --- Marked as duplicate of bug #14633. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 14633 *** -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #16 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2010-03-02 20:56:11 --- Closing dup -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
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