[Bug 14770] New: No textures on some video card/computer combinations [Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic]
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 Summary: No textures on some video card/computer combinations [Star Wars: Knights Of The Old Republic] Product: Wine Version: 1.0.0 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P2 Component: directx-d3d AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: winehq(a)gringer.dis.org.nz Created an attachment (id=15289) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=15289) Screenshot from Chris on wine 1.0.0 On some systems, the starting screen (and, for what it's worth, in-game screens) doesn't have any textures / colours on the models. A screenshot (provided by Chris in the KOTOR discussion pages on appdb) is attached that demonstrates this. This issue is present on systems with the following specifications: * Pentium III with an Nvidia Riva TNT2 M64 card * ~1.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM, and an Intel 945G (GMA) This issue is *not* present on systems with the following specifications: * HP with integrated graphics * ~1.6GHz Pentium 4, 256MB RAM, Nvidia FX5600 This was observed by me previously, but I put it down to my use of a computer that wasn't good enough to be able to run 3D games under wine. Recent comments in the discussion for this program have indicated that this is also an issue on more recent systems that should be able to run the program properly. As seen in the discussion for SW:KOTOR: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2712#Comment-38... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2712#Comment-38... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4124#Comment-38... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 --- Comment #1 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2008-08-05 17:13:29 --- Sounds like an Intel driver bug... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 --- Comment #2 from David Hall (gringer) <winehq(a)gringer.dis.org.nz> 2008-08-05 18:48:16 --- Created an attachment (id=15310) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=15310) What it should look like (on NV31 [GeForce FX 5600]) Here's what it should look like. This is on one of the computers I use, a Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz with NV31 [GeForce FX 5600] graphics card. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 Lars Zimmermann <spam(a)lars-zimmermann.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |spam(a)lars-zimmermann.net --- Comment #3 from Lars Zimmermann <spam(a)lars-zimmermann.net> 2008-09-13 12:32:23 --- I am having the exact same problem on my eee pc 901 running Ubuntu Hardy. I am using an intel driver and tried the Wine stable 1.0 und the 1.14 beta. Same issue with KotOR 2. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 Lei Zhang <thestig(a)google.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|major |normal Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #4 from Lei Zhang <thestig(a)google.com> 2008-09-16 11:10:36 --- Confirming then Severity is not major Can you try the latest unstable intel drivers and see if they help? http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 Armin <ajlh(a)gmx.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ajlh(a)gmx.de --- Comment #5 from Armin <ajlh(a)gmx.de> 2008-09-17 08:12:11 --- I also have this problem. My system is a AMD Sempron 2000+ with an ATI RV280 (Radeon 9800) adapter. I've been using game version 1.03 and wine-1.1.4. I'm using the free radeon module, as the commercial drivers don't work with this specific card yet. I thought it might be related to the video ram size not being detected correctly, but I think I fixed this X-server issue and there should be plenty of video ram available now (128 MB). I also tried running the game in a guaranteed-3d-free-fvwm2 with no improvement. judging from "swkotor-troubleshooting.rtf", the game never ran well with ATI cards, although I got it running on the same system under windows 2000 and fairly old catalyst drivers with no problems at all. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 firefromwithin(a)gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |firefromwithin(a)gmail.com --- Comment #6 from firefromwithin(a)gmail.com 2008-11-04 05:08:23 --- I also have this problem. I have an Intel p4 1.8Ghz, with a Radeon 9250, using the free module. I've had this problem with both 1.0 and 1.03 on ubuntu hardy, wine 0.95/0.96 and ubuntu intrepid, wine 1.1.7 I also have this problem with Kotor 2: Sith Lords. (I believe they use the same game engine). Apart form the texture problem, and the mouse issue it runs quite well for me, though I haven't played far into it. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 --- Comment #7 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2009-05-06 05:38:55 --- Is this still an issue in current (1.1.20 or newer) wine? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 David Eccles (gringer) <winehq(a)gringer.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |winehq(a)gringer.org --- Comment #8 from David Eccles (gringer) <winehq(a)gringer.org> 2009-05-11 02:11:33 --- Yes, still an issue. I get this with an ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO], with open source 3D drivers. Thinking through what I've seen of braid screenshots with similar black/white colours on startup, could this be due to cards not supporting shader model 2? I know this is the case for many Intel integrated cards. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 marquito <zattooist(a)cust.in> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |zattooist(a)cust.in --- Comment #9 from marquito <zattooist(a)cust.in> 2009-06-18 14:18:12 --- Confirmed for -Radeon 9800Pro(RV350) -Ubunutu Jaunty(So impossible to try with fglrx) -Wine 1.1.18 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 --- Comment #10 from marquito <zattooist(a)cust.in> 2009-06-18 14:21:30 --- (In reply to comment #9)
Confirmed for -Radeon 9800Pro(RV350) -Ubunutu Jaunty(So impossible to try with fglrx) -Wine 1.1.18
Additional Info: E17-Desktop Even configuring Wine to to virtual Screen ans editing the swkotor.ini file(Fullscreen=0) it pops up in Fullscreen. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 Santiago <santiagozky(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |santiagozky(a)gmail.com --- Comment #11 from Santiago <santiagozky(a)gmail.com> 2009-12-13 21:30:05 --- I can confirm the problem running the steam version with: -Ubuntu 9.10 up to date -ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M] (radeon free driver) -2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP -wine-1.1.34 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 --- Comment #12 from David Eccles (gringer) <winehq(a)gringer.org> 2009-12-25 20:51:26 --- Still a bug on wine-1.1.35, observed using an ATI Radeon 9200 PRO, radeon free driver, as before. This can't be [just] an Intel bug, because it is not restricted to Intel cards. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 madx <winehq.org_a010b4ec298e6d00(a)madx.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |winehq.org_a010b4ec298e6d00 | |@madx.org --- Comment #13 from madx <winehq.org_a010b4ec298e6d00(a)madx.org> 2010-02-06 08:34:55 --- I found a workaround for this problem, and probably the real source if it. It seems the free intel and ati drivers do not support hardware S3 texture compression (S3TC) but there is a software fallback. Simply use the tool driconf to force S3TC to be enabled and the game will have textures. Works for my ati X850XT and my intel 4500MHD (both with free drivers and wine 1.1.37) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 Jeff Zaroyko <jeffz(a)jeffz.name> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Component|directx-d3d |-unknown Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #14 from Jeff Zaroyko <jeffz(a)jeffz.name> 2010-02-06 18:39:00 --- (In reply to comment #13)
I found a workaround for this problem, and probably the real source if it. It seems the free intel and ati drivers do not support hardware S3 texture compression (S3TC) but there is a software fallback. Simply use the tool driconf to force S3TC to be enabled and the game will have textures. Works for my ati X850XT and my intel 4500MHD (both with free drivers and wine 1.1.37)
Sounds like this is the issue, which makes the bug report invalid due to lack of driver support/system configuration issue. Resolving invalid. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 Jeff Zaroyko <jeffz(a)jeffz.name> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #15 from Jeff Zaroyko <jeffz(a)jeffz.name> 2010-02-06 18:39:14 --- Closing invalid. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 Silent-Hunter <cheery314(a)hotmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |cheery314(a)hotmail.com --- Comment #16 from Silent-Hunter <cheery314(a)hotmail.com> 2010-11-08 19:38:31 CST --- (In reply to comment #15)
Closing invalid.
It still doesn't work for me, even after trying the above workaround. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 --- Comment #17 from Silent-Hunter <cheery314(a)hotmail.com> 2010-11-08 23:56:29 CST --- (In reply to comment #15)
Closing invalid.
I know this bug is closed, but can anyone tell me anything about how to fix this myself? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 --- Comment #18 from David Eccles (gringer) <winehq(a)gringer.org> 2010-11-09 03:41:02 CST --- You're pretty much stuck unless you can get a better video card driver, or a better video card. It doesn't look like any wine code will appear that is likely to do software emulation things that should be done in the drivers. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770 --- Comment #19 from firefromwithin(a)gmail.com 2010-11-09 03:44:56 CST --- I think there is a 3rd party driver patch for s3 texters that MAY fix this. I'm not sure though. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
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