[Bug 15202] New: provide support for raw text editing of registry files
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 Summary: provide support for raw text editing of registry files Product: Wine Version: 1.1.4 Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: enhancement Priority: P3 Component: -unknown AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: bluedzins(a)wp.pl Well, wine lives in linux environment so it is quite natural if registry files (wine files) would be editable in unix manner -- grep, diff, patch, sed, etc. Unix advantage (one of many) was and is batch text processing. Adding in the middle special GUI tool just for editing stops any automatic processing. Besides either you underpower your own program (regedit) comparing to existing unix tools or reinvent wheel again. So, if registry files have to be written in utf8, non-utf, raw unicode, well, in short it does not matter really -- the wish is, please establish any encoding necessary for raw text editing, so common-sense operations like (example) removing entire lines till empty line would be guaranteed to work. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 Arkadiusz Piekarz <piekarzarkadiusz(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |piekarzarkadiusz(a)gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Arkadiusz Piekarz <piekarzarkadiusz(a)gmail.com> 2008-09-09 13:15:09 --- Have you seen system.reg and user.reg in your ~/.wine directory? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #2 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2008-09-09 13:31:45 --- They are internal file format. You don't touch them. If you try to edit that you do that on your own risk. This is won't fix. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #3 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2008-09-09 13:32:38 --- Wine had config file and it was all migrated into registry. Time has proven this to be correct decision. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 --- Comment #4 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2008-09-09 13:33:30 --- If you really have to edit something in the "unix manner" - script operations with regedit. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 --- Comment #5 from Maciej Pilichowski <bluedzins(a)wp.pl> 2008-09-09 15:11:13 --- Arkadiusz, I saw them. What's the point? Vitaliy, I beg to differ about time proving anything -- raw text files are also proven by time they work great, while registry idea taken from Windows is ekhem, not so great. And the idea, and running time is much longer than registry files. (Even XML files would be better because there are variety of tools to manage XML, while for .reg files is one guaranteed tool -- regedit). About regedit script mode, thank you for the tip, I will look for some manual -- I don't have any in unix sense on my system, regedit --help does not work, there is not a word about scripting on regedit wiki page, maybe not too "unixish", but I'll keep looking (just for clarification I am looking for automatically applying diff between two registry files and then how to patch them -- i.e. how to apply difference file to one of them). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 --- Comment #6 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2008-09-09 15:42:44 --- In case you forgotten - windows does use registry. Not config files. Not xml. The only "text" format registry can be written to/read from is ... .reg files. You can do that with regedit to both export to/import from. However it is not 1-to-1 mapping, as you loosing lots of information while doing that (on windows, Wine doesn't have all that ... yet). Reg files don't store access permissions and modification times. The resolution stands - you can not edit registry as a text files. Not on Windows and not on Wine (if you really so ignorant and can't look at ~/.wine directory). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 --- Comment #7 from Maciej Pilichowski <bluedzins(a)wp.pl> 2008-09-10 00:39:32 --- Vitaliy, thank you for the answer. I would appreciate if you skip the irony and personal remarks, it serves no purpose except for lowering manner of the comments. Thank you.
In case you forgotten - windows does use registry. Not config files. Not xml. The only "text" format registry can be written to/read from is ... .reg files.
If the I/O is done directly (low level), true, if registry file is accessed via higher-level API (and AFAIR this is done in Windows) the files could be represented internally as anything -- raw text file, xml, sqlite db, as long as they provide WriteKey, ReadKey or whatever the API is (I didn't program for Windows for a long time, so excuse me for the lack of the correct names). Ok, pity it is not text file, I don't agree with reasoning, but I don't convince you, and vice versa. Thank you for great program anyway. Kind regards, -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 --- Comment #8 from Arkadiusz Piekarz <piekarzarkadiusz(a)gmail.com> 2008-09-10 03:12:34 --- I had no problem editing user.reg with Gedit. The changes were then displayable in Winecfg. But maybe I'm missing the point of this discussion. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 --- Comment #9 from Maciej Pilichowski <bluedzins(a)wp.pl> 2008-09-10 04:03:59 --- Arkadiusz, I edited them with mcedit and after that everything was peachy :-) Refer to FAQ however, that such editing is not guaranteed to work and you (and I) do this on your own risk. When building automatic snapshot/editor (for batch jobs) it is then too risky to depend on something not guaranteed by design, and only that "till now it works". And any tool that edit it (except for regedit) is asking for trouble -- I cannot for example use sed to reset some counters in registry (automatically) because it is editing in raw text mode. And this is what this wish-report is about. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 --- Comment #10 from Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry(a)codeweavers.com> 2008-09-10 05:55:52 --- (In reply to comment #9)
Arkadiusz, I edited them with mcedit and after that everything was peachy :-) Refer to FAQ however, that such editing is not guaranteed to work and you (and I) do this on your own risk.
All you need is make sure that wineserver is not running in this $WINEPREFIX, there is nothing dangerous or risky once you take care of that. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15202 --- Comment #11 from Maciej Pilichowski <bluedzins(a)wp.pl> 2008-09-10 07:03:14 --- Dmitry, This information changes _a lot_ :-) Thank you! I wanted to edit/copy/search/etc. when wine or wine app is not running. I want to write a script to make daily snapshots with diff plus automatically reset some values. Thanks again. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
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