[Bug 54646] New: Entering the minus symbol displays parentheses
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 Bug ID: 54646 Summary: Entering the minus symbol displays parentheses Product: Wine Version: unspecified Hardware: x86-64 OS: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: -unknown Assignee: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org Reporter: pascal.legrand(a)univ-orleans.fr Distribution: --- Hello, I have been using, for many years, a small personal accounting application developed in Delphi. (I am not the developer) This one worked perfectly via Wine. Since one of the last update I have a display problem. When I enter a negative value in the application, once the entry validated the minus sign (debit) turns into parentheses: Input: -100€ Display: (100€) Do you know where this problem could come from? Thank you in advance for your help. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 Zeb Figura <z.figura12(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |z.figura12(a)gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Zeb Figura <z.figura12(a)gmail.com> --- Are you sure this is a bug? Parentheses are a common notation for debit in accounting. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 --- Comment #2 from Pascal <pascal.legrand(a)univ-orleans.fr> --- Hello, thanks for your answer. Not sure that is a bug , The only thing I can say is that before the update, the minus sign "entered" was displayed well and since this update it is no longer displayed. Before : -100€ after : (100€) -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |austinenglish(a)gmail.com Keywords| |regression --- Comment #3 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> --- Is this software publicly available somewhere? What version of wine did this work in? When did it break? It would be super helpful if you could run a regression test: https://wiki.winehq.org/Regression_Testing that will help us see what change caused this change in your app. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 --- Comment #4 from Pascal <pascal.legrand(a)univ-orleans.fr> --- This software is not publicly available somewhere, but i can give you the executable file to let you see what is the problem. I'm using it with wine on a debian sid: apt-cache policy wine wine: Installé : 8.0~repack-4 Candidat : 8.0~repack-4 Table de version : *** 8.0~repack-4 500 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages 500 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid/main i386 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status And, i'm not sure but i think the problem appears since the last update. Tell me if you want the "exe" file. If you test whit it, here is some information (it's in french): - When you launch it, as some files are missing you have to validate the error messages concerning the file "COMPTE.CSV", "COMPTEC.CSV", "TIERS.CSV", "CAT.CSV". - Then you should click on "Nouvelle opération". - Put a negative value in the field "Montant en €uros". - Press the TAB key on the keyboard (validate the entry). The value entered "-100,00€" will be transformed into "(100,00€)" which was not the case before the last update Before upgrade, the displayed value was -100,00€ Thanks for your help -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 Olivier F. R. Dierick <o.dierick(a)piezo-forte.be> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |o.dierick(a)piezo-forte.be --- Comment #5 from Olivier F. R. Dierick <o.dierick(a)piezo-forte.be> --- Hello, (In reply to Pascal from comment #4)
This software is not publicly available somewhere, but i can give you the executable file to let you see what is the problem.
Please, don't share proprietary software publicly. To avoid any legal issues, use private means to share it with a developer for individual technical support, or just don't share it and just follow advice/instructions given here. (In reply to Zeb Figura from comment #1)
Are you sure this is a bug? Parentheses are a common notation for debit in accounting.
This is indeed a valid remark. Both notations are valid negative numbers representation. It looks like it depends on locale, though. @OP, Make sure that the application has no negative number notation setting that may have changed for unknown reasons. How is your locale (environment variables LANG, LC_MONETARY, LC_NUMERIC) configured? Regards. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 --- Comment #6 from Zeb Figura <z.figura12(a)gmail.com> --- It's also possible that the previous behaviour was a bug, and something in Wine changed to fix it. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 --- Comment #7 from Pascal <pascal.legrand(a)univ-orleans.fr> --- Hello, thanks for your answers. I will check locales configuration. Just for information, when i use this app on a "windows computer", it works fine. Minus symbol are well displayed. Thanks again -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 --- Comment #8 from Rafał Mużyło <galtgendo(a)o2.pl> --- Maybe rather than a bug, it's simply something Windows doesn't do ? LC_MONETARY n_sign_posn with a value 0 gives parentheses, values 1/3 give preceding minus. There's a chance Windows (or at least this program) doesn't apply this value or they differ between Windows and Linux. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 --- Comment #9 from Pascal <pascal.legrand(a)univ-orleans.fr> --- Hello, I don't feel like the locals have been changed lately. What should be the value for monetary to show the minus sign? Thanks -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 Alex Henrie <alexhenrie24(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |alexhenrie24(a)gmail.com --- Comment #10 from Alex Henrie <alexhenrie24(a)gmail.com> --- If you know that the application was developed in Delphi, does that mean that you have the source code? Could you find the function call that is responsible for adding the parentheses and tell us which Windows API function it is? As Austin pointed out, a regression test with `git bisect` would also be extremely helpful. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 --- Comment #11 from Pascal <pascal.legrand(a)univ-orleans.fr> --- I am not the developer of this program and I do not have the source code for it. Concerning the regression test with `git bisect` I don't really feel able to do this kind of manipulation. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 --- Comment #12 from Ken Sharp <imwellcushtymelike(a)gmail.com> --- Does this still occur in Wine 9.8 or later? -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 --- Comment #13 from Pascal <pascal.legrand(a)univ-orleans.fr> --- Hello, I can't say for sure that this is a bug. As "Zeb Figura" says: Parentheses are a common notation for debit in accounting. For the moment I'm using wine version 9.0 on a debbian SID and it's currently the only one available apt-cache policy wine wine: Installed: 9.0~repack-4 Candidate: 9.0~repack-4 Thanks for your answer. Pascal -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54646 Alex Henrie <alexhenrie24@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #14 from Alex Henrie <alexhenrie24@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Pascal from comment #13)
Hello, I can't say for sure that this is a bug. As "Zeb Figura" says: Parentheses are a common notation for debit in accounting.
Since there is no evidence that the application is misbehaving, I'm marking this bug report as invalid. If you do find that the application behaves differently on a Windows computer that uses the same language and locale, feel free to reopen the bug report and we'll discuss further. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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