[Bug 13685] New: Anarchy Online is very slow in certain areas (< 3fps or 0)
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Summary: Anarchy Online is very slow in certain areas (< 3fps or 0) Product: Wine Version: CVS/GIT Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: blocker Priority: P2 Component: -unknown AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: krause.marcel(a)gmx.net It's something that's bugging me for a good while, and is also being mentioned in the AppDB article for the game. As I said there it can be "worked around" by using the commercial cedega software, which has other minor problems too, but nothing compared to the slowness under wine. 1. download the free client using bittorrent: http://torrent.funcom.com/torrents/AnarchyOnline_17.6.1_EP0.exe.torrent 2. register a free account: http://register.funcom.com/ 3. Start the game, talk to the neutral recruiter at the island and take the Wompah (teleporter) to Borealis, which will leave you in complete graphical laggyness. You can also notice the laggyness at the Unicorn Outpost (needs paid expansion content), playershops in the guild cities (paid content too), and a few more places. All of these places are frequently used by the players and visiting them is a major pain of course, but as they're the central places in game, you can't really get around on the long run. It's not my system causing the lag though, as it works fine with the cedega software. Specs are: Athlon X2 5000+ 2Gb Ram GeForce 8600GT(a)256MB 400GB WD harddisk 16MBit/s internet connection Regards, Marcel Krause -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Marcel Krause <krause.marcel(a)gmx.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|blocker |enhancement -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Lei Zhang <thestig(a)google.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |download --- Comment #1 from Lei Zhang <thestig(a)google.com> 2008-06-05 00:51:40 --- what driver version? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #2 from Marcel Krause <krause.marcel(a)gmx.net> 2008-06-06 06:02:54 --- (In reply to comment #1)
what driver version?
NVIDIA 173.14.05 (latest), but I've had that behaviour with pretty much any driver before that. I'm using the 'fbo' backend of wine. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Ben Hodgetts (Enverex) <ben(a)atomnet.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Depends on| |11486 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #3 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2008-12-26 17:43:37 --- Is this still an issue in current (1.1.11 or newer) wine? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Luke Bratch <l_bratch(a)yahoo.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |l_bratch(a)yahoo.co.uk --- Comment #4 from Luke Bratch <l_bratch(a)yahoo.co.uk> 2008-12-27 18:00:51 --- Yes, this is still present. Certain areas are simply very laggy, but also every so often somewhere that is usually un-laggy will slow right down. In this case, restarting it will always fix the problem. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|CVS/GIT |unspecified --- Comment #5 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2009-01-20 02:39:09 --- Removing deprecated CVS/GIT version tag. Please retest in current git. If the bug is still present in today's wine, but was not present in some earlier version of wine, please update version field to earliest known version of wine that had the bug. Thanks! -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #6 from Luke Bratch <l_bratch(a)yahoo.co.uk> 2009-01-30 09:21:17 --- Yes this is still present, same comments as before. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #7 from Luke Bratch <l_bratch(a)yahoo.co.uk> 2010-01-04 16:59:52 --- This seems to be completely avoided by selecting the Wine D3D7 T&L HAL display device in the Anarchy Online settings. With that device selected I get very good performance everywhere. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Laryllan <laryllan(a)web.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |laryllan(a)web.de --- Comment #8 from Laryllan <laryllan(a)web.de> 2011-05-01 10:54:56 CDT --- The issue is back for me since I upgraded my graphics card to an Gefore 560 Ti. Borealis lags like hell and there seems to be nothing I can do about it. It worked flawlessly in Cedega though... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Bug 13685 depends on bug 11486, which changed state. Bug 11486 Summary: Anarchy Online does not patch http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11486 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #9 from Luke Bratch <l_bratch(a)yahoo.co.uk> 2011-06-25 05:11:07 CDT --- (In reply to comment #7)
This seems to be completely avoided by selecting the Wine D3D7 T&L HAL display device in the Anarchy Online settings. With that device selected I get very good performance everywhere.
This is no longer the case. Performance is now awful in certain places (especially Borealis) no matter which display device is selected. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #10 from Laryllan <laryllan(a)web.de> 2011-06-25 16:16:39 CDT ---
This is no longer the case. Performance is now awful in certain places (especially Borealis) no matter which display device is selected.
Confirmed. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 joaopa <jeremielapuree(a)yahoo.fr> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jeremielapuree(a)yahoo.fr --- Comment #11 from joaopa <jeremielapuree(a)yahoo.fr> 2011-08-27 01:35:30 CDT --- still a bug in current wine? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #12 from Laryllan <laryllan(a)web.de> 2011-08-27 02:54:08 CDT --- (In reply to comment #11)
still a bug in current wine?
Yes it is, but it's depending on your graphics card. Using a Nvidia GTX 460 Ti the problem is there. Going back to an older GTX 275 there are no slow areas any more. I guess it has something to do with shaders and/or may be a driver problem. Maybe a developer can say more about this. In both cases I used the binary Nvidia driver, version up from 275 to 280.13 on a 64bit system. I will stay on the GTX 275 until this problem is resolved. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 malic <malicorne(a)chez.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |malicorne(a)chez.com --- Comment #13 from malic <malicorne(a)chez.com> 2011-10-21 14:36:57 CDT --- Confirmed here. Wine 1.3.30 + nvidia 285.05.09 on amd64 ubuntu 11.10 Area where slowdown are particularly noticeable : - tower shop (accessible to free players) - clan agency (accessible to free players) - city of Jobe (accessible w/ expansions) - player shops (accessible w/ expansions) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #14 from Laryllan <laryllan(a)web.de> 2011-11-06 04:23:43 CST --- Created attachment 37329 --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=37329 Wine3D Logs of a GTX 275 and GTX 470 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #15 from Laryllan <laryllan(a)web.de> 2011-11-06 04:26:17 CST --- I did some tests with a GeForce GTX 275 (wich runs ok in Borealis) and a GeForce GTX 470 and attached the logfiles. The only difference I can see is the OpenGL version used. Maybe someone can shed light on this... Borealis is unplayable /w the GTX 470. I tested a GTX 560 Ti too, same result. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #16 from joaopa <jeremielapuree(a)yahoo.fr> 2012-11-03 15:33:16 CDT --- still a bug in current wine? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #17 from Laryllan <laryllan(a)web.de> 2012-11-04 13:07:23 CST --- Yes, the bug still exists. I'm on a GF 660 TI now. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 hanska2(a)luukku.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |hanska2(a)luukku.com --- Comment #18 from hanska2(a)luukku.com --- 2 years have passed. Still an issue? And if so, please add an attachment of debug with recent wine (1.7 series). -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Drew <liquidzoo(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |liquidzoo(a)gmail.com --- Comment #19 from Drew <liquidzoo(a)gmail.com> --- It is still an issue and I have confirmed with 2 completely different setups today that the issue does not exist (or at least is not as prevalent) in 1.5.31 (installed through PlayOnLinux as the .deb is no longer available in Mint 17's repos). As soon as I can figure out how to run a debug trace for you, I will post one. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #20 from hanska2(a)luukku.com --- You shouldnt use playonlinux at all when you report bugs or attach debug logs...and also that version you used is really old now. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #21 from Drew <liquidzoo(a)gmail.com> --- (In reply to hanska2 from comment #20)
You shouldnt use playonlinux at all when you report bugs or attach debug logs...and also that version you used is really old now.
I'm not reporting the bug with playonlinux, I am saying that I was able to resolve this issue using it. I would use normal wine (I know the version is old, but it's working where 1.6.x and 1.7.x exhibit this bug) if my distro had this version in their repos anymore. They have 1.6.x and 1.7.26. The age of the wine version shouldn't have anything to do with this. If I found a version where this game is working well, then something in the newer versions has broken that (for this game). I don't know what, though. I was asked, on the Anarchy Online forums, to provide this information. I will provide a log from wine-1.7.26 soon (this version was not installed via playonlinux, it was installed via apt-get install wine). -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #22 from hanska2(a)luukku.com --- If something got broken with wine, then someone should do regression testing between the versions. That means compiling wine with different versions and trying if it works. And if it does the regression test shows what commit broke the thing. http://wiki.winehq.org/RegressionTesting -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Ken Sharp <imwellcushtymelike(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |Abandoned? Version|unspecified |1.1.11 Severity|enhancement |trivial -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #23 from Luke Bratch <luke(a)bratch.co.uk> --- The abandoned keyword was just added to this bug, but it is still present. I imagine there has been no activity as the situation hasn't changed. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Nikolay Sivov <bunglehead(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords|Abandoned? | -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Nikolay Sivov <bunglehead(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|trivial |normal -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #24 from joaopa <jeremielapuree(a)yahoo.fr> --- Still a bug in current wine? -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #25 from Laryllan <laryllan(a)web.de> --- It is playable with the new engine. But the overall performance is terrible. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 super_man(a)post.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |super_man(a)post.com --- Comment #26 from super_man(a)post.com --- (In reply to Laryllan from comment #25)
It is playable with the new engine. But the overall performance is terrible.
The bug needs console output, there is few attachements but I dont know if those have any use. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Maik Wagner <maiktapwagner(a)aol.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |maiktapwagner(a)aol.com --- Comment #27 from Maik Wagner <maiktapwagner(a)aol.com> --- Well, I never played the neutral side in this game and never visited Borealis but as far as my two Clans-Soldiers are concerned I am perfectly happy with the performance of the game. I am using the following chipset and apart from the issue that you can talk to gamemasters in game (Awesomium.dll crashes) the game works fine. I used to give it Platinum status but found out about the gamemastering issue later on. But graphics wise Anarchy Online works very well. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #28 from Maik Wagner <maiktapwagner(a)aol.com> --- Some further information: My Rendering Device is set to DirectDraw HAL - Wine D3D7 TL HAL with Low texture quality and 16 Bpb color depth, so settings are very low. This is my graphics chipset: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8330] -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #29 from joaopa <jeremielapuree(a)yahoo.fr> --- Still a bug in current wine (3.11)? -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #30 from joaopa <jeremielapuree(a)yahoo.fr> --- No news since more 2 years. No download available. Can an administrator close this bug as ABANDONED? -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 --- Comment #31 from Luke Bratch <luke(a)bratch.co.uk> --- There is still a free download available [1] and AO is still very slow in certain areas. Borealis is still the easiest place to reproduce the issue, although it is much faster now than it used to be - this could just be because hardware got a lot faster in the last 10 years! On my current machine I get ~100 FPS in most places in AO but that halves to ~50 FPS in Borealis. [1] http://update.anarchy-online.com/download/AO/AnarchyOnline.exe -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 Jeff Zaroyko <jeffz(a)jeffz.name> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- URL| |http://update.anarchy-onlin | |e.com/download/AO/AnarchyOn | |line.exe -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 rjd <3246251196ryan(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |3246251196ryan(a)gmail.com --- Comment #32 from rjd <3246251196ryan(a)gmail.com> --- Anarchy Online is no longer slow in certain areas. Many years ago (before now, 2024) it used to be. At least, for me: Nvidia 1050 TI. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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