New subject: [Bug 58926] Ableton Live 12: Window error upon moving window, or exiting fullscreen

5 Nov 2025


      http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58926

            Bug ID: 58926
           Summary: Ableton Live 12: Window error upon moving window, or
                    exiting fullscreen
           Product: Wine
           Version: 10.18
          Hardware: x86-64
                OS: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: -unknown
          Assignee: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org
          Reporter: erynisbored(a)gmail.com
      Distribution: ---

Created attachment 79614
  --> http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=79614
.7z Archive Containing all aforementioned logs and specifications

While running the Installer for Ableton Live 12.2.6, The same error occurs
twice, with two windows appearing, one after the other, both stating "The
program tlsetupfx.exe has encountered a serious problem and needs to close."
upon clicking "Show Details", a larger info view appears, displaying the
backtrace of the error, this happens in both error windows, and from what I can
tell, the second doesn't appear until the first has been closed or had its info
view opened. The installation, proceeds without any more errors though, and
when it finishes I'm prompted to launch the free trial. The free trial launches
normally, though the title bar at the top of the window is absent, and I'm
prompted to either enable exports by authorizing with an account, or to proceed
without exporting or saving, both of these options result in the core library
being set up, followed by the window completely freezing and a prompt appearing
stating that it has stopped responding. Upon force-quitting and re-launching
Ableton through the executable in C:\ProgramData, it no longer crashes, but the
title bar is still missing, and when I move the window with the alt+f7 keyboard
shortcut, enter then exit fullscreen with f11, or maximize the window with the
alt+space menu, it starts to what I can only describe as "freak out". The
window shifting between displaying normally, going completely black, and
displaying the window behind it. And jittering slightly up and down. From this
point the only way I've tried to close it is by closing the terminal window,
though since f11 does fullscreen the application with only a graphical error
that causes everything to be shifted down, I suspect it may be possible to use
ctrl+q, or alt+f4 to close the program from there. Also during the "freak out"
a window will repeatedly appear stating that the program has crashed and will
close when the window closes, however that doesn't appear to happen, or if it
does, there's so much else already going on that it's not noticeable.
Things of Note:
- My OS is Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS
- This happens to me in both the free trial, and paid "suite" version of Live
12.
- This also happens to me in both the Development, and Stable Branches of Wine.
- The specific error during installation seems to occur during the step that
involves installing the Ableton Push integration software.
- The "freakout" error is somewhat inconsistent in triggering, usually it only
takes entering and exiting fullscreen to trigger, but other times it's needed
me to first maximize the window
I've also attached a .7z archive containing the following:
- Both Backtraces for the tlsetupfx.exe error during installation.
- The complete terminal output during the installation and first launch.
- The complete terminal output after launching Live for a second time.
- My PC hardware specifications in HTML format, obtained with the command "sudo
lshw -sanitize -html >PCSpecs.html"

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