[Bug 54932] New: Fallout 3: Black screen when using the experimental wow64 mode
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 Bug ID: 54932 Summary: Fallout 3: Black screen when using the experimental wow64 mode Product: Wine Version: 8.8 Hardware: x86-64 OS: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P2 Component: -unknown Assignee: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org Reporter: m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com Distribution: --- When I try to play fallout 3 or new Vegas I get a black box with no audio. Space Cadet Pinball x86 works fine though. I also tried using dxvk but that didn't help. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |wow64 -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #1 from m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com --- Compiled and tested on Fedora 37 -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #2 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> --- Please attach the terminal output. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #3 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- Created attachment 74458 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=74458 New wine prefix and cleared wine cache -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #4 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- Also let me know if you want me to use any specific debug variables it doesn't look like there's a whole lot there but I'm just a user :p -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |https://bugs.winehq.org/sho | |w_bug.cgi?id=54442 Distribution|--- |Fedora -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 Zeb Figura <z.figura12(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |z.figura12(a)gmail.com --- Comment #5 from Zeb Figura <z.figura12(a)gmail.com> --- "Experimental" wow64 is currently not in a state where it can run any but the simplest graphical applications, so I don't think it's particularly interesting to test it yet. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #6 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- (In reply to Zeb Figura from comment #5)
"Experimental" wow64 is currently not in a state where it can run any but the simplest graphical applications, so I don't think it's particularly interesting to test it yet.
I'm probably ignorant, but the launcher for fallout and the steam app are 2d so it would seem like those would be simple apps. I'm guessing since pinball was a SDL app though that would probably change things. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #7 from Zeb Figura <z.figura12(a)gmail.com> --- (In reply to m1m1k4tz from comment #6)
(In reply to Zeb Figura from comment #5)
"Experimental" wow64 is currently not in a state where it can run any but the simplest graphical applications, so I don't think it's particularly interesting to test it yet.
I'm probably ignorant, but the launcher for fallout and the steam app are 2d so it would seem like those would be simple apps. I'm guessing since pinball was a SDL app though that would probably change things.
I'm not actually sure that any graphical applications run right now. There's a lot of GDI that's kind of broken with new wow64. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #8 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- Created attachment 74462 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=74462 WINEDEBUG=+gdi Using the debug env variable WINEDEBUG=+gdi confirms that this is a gdi application but I'm not sure if that's the problem, steam also uses gdi aswell from what I've read. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|-unknown |gdi32 --- Comment #9 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- I'll go ahead and mark the component as gdi32 since that seems most likely though. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #10 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- (In reply to Zeb Figura from comment #7)
(In reply to m1m1k4tz from comment #6)
(In reply to Zeb Figura from comment #5)
"Experimental" wow64 is currently not in a state where it can run any but the simplest graphical applications, so I don't think it's particularly interesting to test it yet.
I'm probably ignorant, but the launcher for fallout and the steam app are 2d so it would seem like those would be simple apps. I'm guessing since pinball was a SDL app though that would probably change things.
I'm not actually sure that any graphical applications run right now. There's a lot of GDI that's kind of broken with new wow64.
SDL apps seem to run fine for other people as well, so I think its probably a GDI thing too https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54442 -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #11 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- This merge request fixes it lets gooooooooooooooooo https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/merge_requests/2912 -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #12 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- I get into the launcher now but it tells me that fallout isn't installed and if I try to bypass the launcher it crashes but there's progress :D -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #13 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- Created attachment 74519 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=74519 fallout3.exe -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #14 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- (In reply to m1m1k4tz from comment #12)
I get into the launcher now but it tells me that fallout isn't installed and if I try to bypass the launcher it crashes but there's progress :D
Also, I didn't hear the music that usually plays in the launcher either so I'm not sure if that's related to the game files not being detected -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|8.8 |8.9 -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 Olivier F. R. Dierick <o.dierick(a)piezo-forte.be> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|8.9 |8.8 CC| |o.dierick(a)piezo-forte.be --- Comment #15 from Olivier F. R. Dierick <o.dierick(a)piezo-forte.be> --- Hello, Please don't update the wine version field. It should be the oldest version known to be affected (I re-set it to 8.8). Regards. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #16 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- (In reply to Olivier F. R. Dierick from comment #15)
Hello,
Please don't update the wine version field. It should be the oldest version known to be affected (I re-set it to 8.8).
Regards.
Sorry about that, thanks for clearing that up for me. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #17 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- I went thru and added WINEDEBUG=warn+all maybe that will give some more information why it can't see the game files I also tried to start the exe from the game directory and that helped get past some errors in portal 2 but both that and fallout still don't launch into the game -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #18 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- Created attachment 74529 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=74529 WINEDEBUG=warn+all -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #19 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- Created attachment 74530 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=74530 WINEDEBUG=warn+all FalloutLaucherSteam.exe -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #20 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- Created attachment 74531 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=74531 Compile Script I use -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #21 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- Created attachment 74532 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=74532 Script I use to install dependencies in my toolbox container for compiling wine -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #22 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- Also Fallout: New Vegas is free for a few days if anyone wants to test it out themselves https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/fallout-new-vegas--ultimate-edition -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #23 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- Okay I Just tried a fix from the third post in this thread and it worked https://steamcommunity.com/app/22370/discussions/0/598198356177372106/ Basically you create the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Bethesda Softworks\fallout3 with the string value Installed Path and for the data you put the location of your install directory and you need a \ at the end or it won't work. It looks like there's a few bugs that prevent me from getting past the character creation screen though. On New Vegas it looks like the issue there is Steam so I'll try to install it from the Steam client running under wine instead of using the files from the linux Steam client. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #24 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- I'll mark this as closed because the game works fine with dxvi and the gstreamer merge request. I think the other issues with source games are unrelated. It's weird that the registry fix isn't needed for the old wow64 mode though. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #25 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- above -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 Zeb Figura <z.figura12(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|FIXED |--- Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED --- Comment #26 from Zeb Figura <z.figura12(a)gmail.com> --- Nothing was fixed in Wine. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #27 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- (In reply to Zeb Figura from comment #26)
Nothing was fixed in Wine.
It was mostly fixed in the mr that fixed gdi programs I'm pretty sure and the upcoming fix for gstreamer in wow64. I just found out a registry key fix that lets you run the game in wow64. I thought it would be good to make a new bug ticket since it's pretty much 100% playable now. It's probably another issue for source games. There are still issues with wined3d probably since the game only works fine with dxvk for me so it might be best to leave this open anyway though. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 --- Comment #28 from Zeb Figura <z.figura12(a)gmail.com> --- (In reply to m1m1k4tz from comment #27)
(In reply to Zeb Figura from comment #26)
Nothing was fixed in Wine.
It was mostly fixed in the mr that fixed gdi programs I'm pretty sure and the upcoming fix for gstreamer in wow64. I just found out a registry key fix that lets you run the game in wow64. I thought it would be good to make a new bug ticket since it's pretty much 100% playable now. It's probably another issue for source games. There are still issues with wined3d probably since the game only works fine with dxvk for me so it might be best to leave this open anyway though.
Sure, we can close this when the winegstreamer patches are merged (although, yes, it'd still be nice to have something tracking wined3d bugs, whether that's this bug or another one). -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #29 from m1m1k4tz <m1m1k4tz(a)protonmail.com> --- Fixed after this merge https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/merge_requests/3327 -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54932 Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #30 from Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.org> --- Closing bugs fixed in 8.13. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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