[Bug 11899] New: cannot enable/disable "emulate a virtual desktop" setting per application
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11899 Summary: cannot enable/disable "emulate a virtual desktop" setting per application Product: Wine Version: 0.9.56. Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: enhancement Priority: P2 Component: -unknown AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: erpo41(a)gmail.com For some applications, such as StarCraft, it is necessary to enable the "Emulate a virtual desktop" setting. If this setting is not enabled, the application will not run. For other applications, such as the UltraVNC viewer, it is convenient to disable the "Emulate a virtual desktop" setting. If this setting is not disabled, the application is cumbersome to use. Running winecfg to switch this option on or off before launching each application is a real drag. One solution to this problem would be to allow users to set the "Emulate a virtual desktop" preference on a per-application basis. A comment in Bug # 11078 makes it clear that this would be difficult or complicated to implement. However, the problem still needs to be solved in some way. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11899 Roderick Colenbrander <thunderbird2k(a)gmx.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Roderick Colenbrander <thunderbird2k(a)gmx.net> 2008-03-08 04:33:42 --- StarCraft will run fine without a Wine desktop. I don't know why that happens on your system. A long time ago you could set a Wine desktop per application but these days that isn't possible anymore and this ability won't return. The reason is that these days Wine's GUI rendering works more like Windows and Windows doesn't offer this ability and inside our design we can't offer it either. (The desktop is managed by explorer.exe like on Windows) If you really want this the only way is to use multiple wine prefixes (read multiple .wine directories). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11899 Detlef Riekenberg <wine.dev(a)web.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |wine.dev(a)web.de --- Comment #2 from Detlef Riekenberg <wine.dev(a)web.de> 2008-03-08 04:43:37 --- (In reply to comment #0)
One solution to this problem would be to allow users to set the "Emulate a virtual desktop" preference on a per-application basis.
wine explorer.exe /desktop=name_for_desktop1,800x600 appname1.exe wine explorer.exe /desktop=name_for_desktop2,1024x768 appname2.exe Have fun with wine. -- By by ... Detlef -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11899 Detlef Riekenberg <wine.dev(a)web.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|wine.dev(a)web.de | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11899 --- Comment #3 from Eric <erpo41(a)gmail.com> 2008-03-08 06:48:37 ---
A long time ago you could set a Wine desktop per application but these days that isn't possible anymore and this ability won't return. The reason is that these days Wine's GUI rendering works more like Windows and Windows doesn't offer this ability and inside our design we can't offer it either. (The desktop is managed by explorer.exe like on Windows)
wine explorer.exe /desktop=name_for_desktop1,800x600 appname1.exe
If I set wine to use managed windows without a virtual desktop in winecfg, I can run an instance of UltraVNC with managed windows. I can then use the above command to run StarCraft.exe in a virtual desktop at the same time. I don't understand why this bug was marked RESOLVED with status INVALID. According to the resolution explanation page, INVALID means that the described behavior is not a bug. However, as was demonstrated by my bug report and by bug # 11078, it's a real problem when a user can't set the "emulate a virtual desktop" bit on a per-program basis. Even if it were impossible to set the "emulate a virtual desktop" bit on a per-program basis without different wineprefixes, it would still be a problem deserving a solution. Maybe the solution would be to make it easy to create different wineprefixes. I don't know. The point is that a solution would need to be found. But, it turns out that wine can already do this. I don't see why a user should have to know about explorer.exe's /desktop switch in order to access this functionality. I'll attach a screenshot in case anyone doesn't believe it's possible to do what's described above. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11899 --- Comment #4 from Eric <erpo41(a)gmail.com> 2008-03-08 06:49:59 --- Created an attachment (id=11214) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=11214) UltraVNC is manged, StarCraft is running in a virtual desktop -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11899 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |austinenglish(a)gmail.com --- Comment #5 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2008-03-15 14:03:07 --- (In reply to comment #1)
A long time ago you could set a Wine desktop per application but these days that isn't possible anymore and this ability won't return. The reason is that these days Wine's GUI rendering works more like Windows and Windows doesn't offer this ability and inside our design we can't offer it either. (The desktop is managed by explorer.exe like on Windows)
Could anyone explain why we can do this on a per-app basis using command line overrides then? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11899 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #6 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-13 14:39:47 --- Closing invalid. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
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