[Bug 12724] New: 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 Summary: 3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot render 3D windows in program Product: Wine Version: 0.9.59. Platform: PC URL: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112 &id=5659302 OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: -unknown AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: rockinup1231(a)gmail.com Created an attachment (id=12376) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12376) Output from terminal (I broke it down to show what I saw, when I saw it happen). After using ProcessExplorer to figure out what it used, I used a few DLL overrides and got the program to load it's window. After that, it locks up and simply can't load the 3D panels in the program for some reason. I've tried all I know so I figure it would be a good idea to tell about the bug on here (I also submitted my test data recently, and at this current moment is yet to be accepted). My WINE version is 0.9.59 This is the list of DLL overrides I had to use. You will likely have to tweak them to try getting DirectX rendering to work. avifil32 (native) comctl32 (native) comdlg32 (native) dcap32 (native) dciman32 (native) ddrawex (native) imagehlp (native) kernel32 (native) lz32 (native) msacm32 (native) msvfw32 (native) msxml3 (native) ole32 (native) oleacc (native) oleaut32 (native) oledlg (native) opengl32 (native, built-in) regapi (native) riched20 (native) riched32 (native) shdocvw (native) shell32 (native) shfolder (native) shlwapi (native) You can remove the opengl32 override from the list if you want to try DirectX rendering. I also observed that unlike trying it in OpenGL mode, the only time that the window loads properly under DirectX rendering mode is after first selecting that mode, but trying to run the program again, it renders garbage for the window. There may be some dll's in there that are unecessary, but I grabbed the ones that processexplorer said 3D Studio MAX was using during the time, and a few that I thought might also be necessary for the DLL's listed to work properly. Also, Software rendering failed, too. :( -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #1 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-21 17:40:42 --- "When not using it in native mode, you don't even get that much of a statement" I said that in the text file I attached. I mean't built-in, not native. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #2 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-21 18:28:43 --- *Sigh* I'm not sure where you'd look to get this program on the internet (unless you check torrent sites and only use it as a trial). I just thought about that issue. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #3 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-21 22:15:28 --- (In reply to comment #2)
*Sigh* I'm not sure where you'd look to get this program on the internet (unless you check torrent sites and only use it as a trial). I just thought about that issue.
The site offers a 30 day free trial..Have you tested that? Also, try without native dlls. If they must be used, file bugs (check for dupes first) for the reason you're using them. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #4 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-22 05:39:14 --- Created an attachment (id=12386) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12386) Output without native DLL's -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #5 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-22 05:42:08 --- (In reply to comment #3)
The site offers a 30 day free trial..Have you tested that?
Also, try without native dlls. If they must be used, file bugs (check for dupes first) for the reason you're using them.
I already have the program, I mentioned that for people who didn't. As you'll notice without the native DLL's, the program will try loading the plugins, then lock up on the cmbtex.dlt plugin file, resulting in that final error. I'll try running ProcessExplorer again to see if it can tell me what's happening during that moment. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #6 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-22 11:39:42 --- (In reply to comment #5)
(In reply to comment #3)
The site offers a 30 day free trial..Have you tested that?
Also, try without native dlls. If they must be used, file bugs (check for dupes first) for the reason you're using them.
I already have the program, I mentioned that for people who didn't. The demo doesn't always have the same problem. It is useful for you to test it to see if it has the same problem so other's don't have to spend time to check for bugs that may not exist there.
As you'll notice without the native DLL's, the program will try loading the plugins, then lock up on the cmbtex.dlt plugin file, resulting in that final error.
That's fine, but you should file bugs for those. For all we know, with that many native DLLs, the bug you're currently filing may be because of those DLLs mixed with some wine DLLs... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #7 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-22 14:51:52 --- Created an attachment (id=12396) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12396) Working.....mostly. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #8 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-04-22 14:55:22 --- Okay, I understand that. I'll see about testing the demo first if I can still get it off their site. Also, I removed the plugin file that the program locks up on when it starts each time, and it initiated regardless. The program works without it, but all the objects are rendered without light effects or texture effects, which is what I think that cmbtex.dlt does (it's....I think...the combustion engine plugin). It worked without native DLL's, however. I'll refrain from commenting on this until I've accomplished what need be first. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #9 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-09-23 19:49:04 --- I know it's been a very long time since I last mentioned anything on the status of this bug. Unfortunately I didn't have access to my machine all summer, but I finally got to test it again. 3DS Max 7 under Wine-1.1.5 will load properly with the new instructions I placed in the app's HOWTO. It still involves moving the Combustion plugin files out of the stdplugs folder, but it doesn't seem to actually have any part in the dynamic lighting or coloring of geometry. Under Software Rendering everything I tested and toyed with seemed to work fine, but I also tried toying with 3D Hardware rendering using DirectX. Both 9.0 and 8.1 modes work, but 9.0 mode renders all the objects in the Perspective viewport as black. Under 8.1 however, objects render and are colored properly. However, if you try to toy with any of the tools that adjust your point of view in the Perspective viewport, the program crashes. I found that following one of the several tutorials around the internet to install the native DirectX 9.0c solved this problem. My machine doesn't have a DX9 compatible video card (an old nVidia GeForce 4000 MX), and uses the legacy accelerated video card drivers. Can someone try running the program with the HOWTO instructions for the app, that actually has a computer running a DX9 compatible card with the newer drivers? This would help make sure that the lockups with Wine's built-in DirectX aren't tied into my legacy video card drivers. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|-unknown |directx-d3d Summary|3D Studio MAX 7.0 cannot |3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render |render 3D windows in program|viewport windows and | |geometry properly -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #10 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-09-26 11:15:19 --- I changed the name of the bug so it makes a little more sense as to what the bug is about. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- URL|http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk|http://files.filefront.com/3 |/servlet/index?siteID=123112|dsmax7exe/;10541739;/fileinf |&id=5659302 |o.html --- Comment #11 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-23 19:37:38 --- I've updated the URL for this (and for the other 3DS Max 7 bugs). The program (the download is trial) can be downloaded there. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #12 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-27 16:42:54 --- Wine-1.1.7, viewport windows load correctly and geometry renders properly under DirectX 8.1 mode without crashing. Still, geometry appears as black shapes in DirectX 9.0 mode. Anyone have any better luck in DX9 mode? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #13 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-26 20:46:17 --- Is this still an issue in current (1.1.20 or newer) wine? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 --- Comment #14 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2009-10-04 22:29:12 --- As of Wine 1.1.30, geometry renders properly in all viewports and correctly colored/shaded in DirectX 8.1 and OpenGL modes. Shapes are still rendered completely black in DirectX 9 mode, however. This is using the latest NVIDIA graphics drivers with my laptop, which has a GeForce 6100 Go chipset; enough to utilize DX9. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |download URL|http://files.filefront.com/ |http://www.skan.ru/en/file/ |3dsmax7exe/;10541739;/filei |3dsmax7.exe |nfo.html | Summary|3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render |3DS MAX 7.0: Cannot render |viewport windows and |viewport windows and |geometry properly |geometry properly in | |Directx 9 mode -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #15 from Justin Soulia <rockinup1231(a)gmail.com> 2011-05-01 22:03:16 CDT --- This is no longer an issue with wine 1.3.19. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12724 Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #16 from Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.org> 2011-05-13 13:33:15 CDT --- Closing bugs fixed in 1.3.20. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
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