[Bug 39743] New: Dragon NaturallySpeaking 13.0 does not train new user or run old one with sound error
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 Bug ID: 39743 Summary: Dragon NaturallySpeaking 13.0 does not train new user or run old one with sound error Product: Wine-staging Version: 1.7.55 Hardware: x86 OS: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: -unknown Assignee: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org Reporter: susancragin(a)gmail.com CC: erich.e.hoover(a)wine-staging.com, michael(a)fds-team.de, sebastian(a)fds-team.de Distribution: --- Created attachment 53012 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=53012 NaturallySpeaking 13.0 crash when installing user voice I created a new 32-bit wine prefix this morning, set the Windows version to 10 (sorry) and installed Dragon NaturallySpeaking 13.0 into it. (Under winecfg, the sound was set to default, which had worked previously.) The NatSpeak installation appeared to go flawlessly. But the program will not run. It starts normally but then says it cannot use my "user," that is, the set of files with my voice data in it. I have tried creating a new user, and that does not work either. I also tried changing the sound to pulseaudio in winecfg, ditto on the no work. An error message says that the program cannot find my sound source. Debian LXDE with all updates. wine-1.7.55 (Staging) Attached: crash report, terminal output. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 Susan Cragin <susancragin(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |susancragin(a)gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Susan Cragin <susancragin(a)gmail.com> --- Created attachment 53013 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=53013 terminal output before and during crash -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 Sebastian Lackner <sebastian(a)fds-team.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|-unknown |-unknown Product|Wine-staging |Wine --- Comment #2 from Sebastian Lackner <sebastian(a)fds-team.de> --- I don't think this issue is Wine Staging specific, so moving this bug to the "Wine" product. Feel free to move it back if you have confirmed that it doesn't occur with the development version. Generally its not recommended to change the Windows version in winecfg, except the application refuses to run otherwise. Do you still encounter the same issue after changing it back to the default (Win XP)? -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 --- Comment #3 from Rosanne DiMesio <dimesio(a)earthlink.net> --- (In reply to Susan Cragin from comment #0)
I created a new 32-bit wine prefix this morning, set the Windows version to 10 (sorry) and installed Dragon NaturallySpeaking 13.0 into it.
DNS 13.0 should also work with Windows 7 & 8; does the problem also exist with those versions?
Debian LXDE with all updates. wine-1.7.55 (Staging)
That's several versions out of date. Please retest with 1.8-rc3, preferably with the development branch to rule out this being a staging-specific issue. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 --- Comment #4 from Susan Cragin <susancragin(a)gmail.com> --- I used Debian's latest package. wine-1.8-rc2 I tried installing with Windows 7, which is probably the lowest version NatSpeak 13.0 will run with. (Vista is too low.) The installation went well. I used to have to install DOTNET 4.5 but now it installs just mono, with this message. wine: Install Mono for Windows to run .NET applications. I installed every likely package with the words Microsoft and mono in them. RESULTS: Now it crashes earlier. Then I reinstalled with the mono packages already on my system. Crash. I'm missing mono packages? I'm wondering if the solution isn't something simple. For instance, it's a 32-bit program running on a 64-bit machine. Could I be missing the right 32-bit mono libraries? Later if you wish I'll install DOTNET4.5 and see if it runs that way. This is finals week for me (and I'm the teacher) so I may not be able to respond right away. I can do simple tests. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 --- Comment #5 from Susan Cragin <susancragin(a)gmail.com> --- :~$ winetricks dotnet40 Executing w_do_call dotnet40 dotnet40 already installed, skipping susan(a)susan:~$ winetricks dotnet45 Executing w_do_call dotnet45 ------------------------------------------------------ error: dotnet45 conflicts with dotnet40, which is already installed. ------------------------------------------------------ -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 --- Comment #6 from Susan Cragin <susancragin(a)gmail.com> --- Created attachment 53079 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=53079 WINEDEBUG set to mono. After the program has loaded, it gives a dialogue that says: In: default (Unavailable) which I'm pretty sure means it can't find the incoming sound. When I respond to the box by either clicking "Cancel" or "add new dictation source" I get a crash. NatSpeak 13 did run with wine 1.7, HOWEVER, it couldn't train a new user, and I had to import user data from an earlier NatSpeak. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 --- Comment #7 from Susan Cragin <susancragin(a)gmail.com> --- Created attachment 53080 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=53080 sound winedebug last 1000 lines last thousand lines with this winedebug: +tid,+seh,+mmdevapi,+winmm,+driver,+msacm,+midi,+dsound,+dsound3d,+xaudio2,+xapofx,+dmusic,+mci,+pulse,+oss,+alsa,+coreaudio,+timestamp -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 --- Comment #8 from Rosanne DiMesio <dimesio(a)earthlink.net> --- (In reply to Susan Cragin from comment #4)
I used Debian's latest package.
Do you mean the one built by Debian? If so, please retest with the WineHQ package for Debian. http://wiki.winehq.org/Debian -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 Susan Cragin <susancragin(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #53012|0 |1 is obsolete| | Attachment #53013|0 |1 is obsolete| | Attachment #53079|0 |1 is obsolete| | Attachment #53080|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #9 from Susan Cragin <susancragin(a)gmail.com> --- Created attachment 53112 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=53112 wine -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 --- Comment #10 from Susan Cragin <susancragin(a)gmail.com> --- Created attachment 53113 --> https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=53113 sound winedebug last 1000 lines wine-1.8-rc4 +tid,+seh,+mmdevapi,+winmm,+driver,+msacm,+midi,+dsound,+dsound3d,+xaudio2,+xapofx,+dmusic,+mci,+pulse,+oss,+alsa,+coreaudio,+timestamp -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 --- Comment #11 from Susan Cragin <susancragin(a)gmail.com> --- I went into wine uninstaller and uninstalled mono. Then I did a repair install of NatSpeak so that NatSpeak's version of dotnet installed. Now it runs. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 winebugger(a)piments.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |winebugger(a)piments.com --- Comment #12 from winebugger(a)piments.com --- Congratulations Susan. Another win. Could you summarise, starting from zero: clean .wine and clarify what packages are or not installed at start? I've wasted all of yesterday trying to reinstall version 9, which I did have nicely installed in bilingual version years ago. I gave up after far too much time wasted reinventing the magic incantations needed to make anything work, and which change every time wine gets a version bump. I came back to give it fresh look after a few years away and sadly it does not seen that we have moved forwards. Turning clockwise with your eyes closed and throwing salt over the left shoulder still seems to be one of the key parts of the installation method. If you can detail something that works here, I'll have a last try at resurrecting version 9 pro, before I finally give up on WINE definitively. Thanks for all your work over the years on this. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39743 --- Comment #13 from Susan Cragin <susancragin(a)gmail.com> --- (In reply to winebugger from comment #12) Hi. Thanks. NatSpeak 9.5 never ran well, if at all, under wine. That's my memory of years ago. But 12.0 and 12.5 are now obsolete (so are cheap) and ran well. You might try using one of those. Or try these instructions: rm -rf .wine WINEARCH=win32 winecfg select Windows 7 winetricks dotnet40 then try installing the program. Remember, it's going to crash the first few times you use it. And don't push any buttons that require the program to do extra work. Good luck. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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