[Bug 12653] New: The Sims crashes on startup
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Summary: The Sims crashes on startup Product: Wine Version: 0.9.59. Platform: PC OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: kernel32 AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: chris(a)chrobis.com Created an attachment (id=12299) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12299) The Sims backtrace when running in Win 98 mode (game designed for) The game "The Sims" (v.1) crashes on startup and does not run. Oddly, when running Wine in Win 95 or 98 mode (which is what the game is designed for), I get a number of error messages asking to set Wine to NT4.0 or 3.1 (see log: sims98.txt). These do not appear when I run in NT4.0 (see log: simsnt4.txt) or in XP mode (sims.txt). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #1 from Chris Wales <chris(a)chrobis.com> 2008-04-19 11:03:37 --- Created an attachment (id=12300) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12300) Sims backtrace running in NT4 mode (as asked for when run in Win 98) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #2 from Chris Wales <chris(a)chrobis.com> 2008-04-19 11:04:10 --- Created an attachment (id=12301) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12301) Sims backtrace running in XP mode (for comparison) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #3 from Luke Bratch <l_bratch(a)yahoo.co.uk> 2008-04-19 11:42:52 --- This game uses SafeDisc, so this a dupe of bug 219. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #4 from Chris Wales <chris(a)chrobis.com> 2008-04-19 11:53:53 --- Created an attachment (id=12302) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12302) Sims backtrace when using a no-cd patch, Win 98 mode I tried also running it with a no-cd patch; different set of complaints and the screen does go black briefly as if the game is about to start; however it still crashes and produces the backtrace attached (simsnocd.txt) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #5 from vmp32k <vampire(a)lifetimeblood.info> 2008-05-11 19:29:39 --- Created an attachment (id=12949) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=12949) Sims Backtrace when running in WinXP mode Backtrace running The Sims 1 (boxed version (1.0?)) on wine-1.0-rc1 on Ubuntu Hardy x86_64 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Chadwick Ferguson <chadwick(a)clan-mac.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever Confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #6 from Chadwick Ferguson <chadwick(a)clan-mac.com> 2008-08-05 01:27:39 --- *** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. *** -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Chadwick Ferguson <chadwick(a)clan-mac.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |chadwick(a)clan-mac.com -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #7 from Alejandro <alejandro(a)vonmankowski.de> 2008-08-31 04:03:26 --- Created an attachment (id=15756) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=15756) The Sims console output (winXP) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |esd45(a)earthlink.net --- Comment #8 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-10-06 06:36:20 --- According to my research on Safedisc the following will assist in proper execution of SafeDisc programs: Programs, libraries, and modules should be able to write to themselves unless explicitly said otherwise. This "default off" self-protection is an unusual, and possibly dangerous "standard" in Windows, but must be done to follow (unwritten) standard. Additionally, they should be able to create overlapping pages. This is another unusual behavior that Windows permits. To allow both these functions Wine would have to be compiled with certain modules explicitly not using libMudFlap nor libSafe if installed, and explicitly modified to deactivate checks on programs attacking themselves. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #9 from Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry(a)codeweavers.com> 2008-10-06 07:25:50 --- (In reply to comment #8)
According to my research on Safedisc the following will assist in proper execution of SafeDisc programs: Programs, libraries, and modules should be able to write to themselves unless explicitly said otherwise. This "default off" self-protection is an unusual, and possibly dangerous "standard" in Windows, but must be done to follow (unwritten) standard.
That's not true.
Additionally, they should be able to create overlapping pages. This is another unusual behavior that Windows permits. To allow both these functions Wine would have to be compiled with certain modules explicitly not using libMudFlap nor libSafe if installed, and explicitly modified to deactivate checks on programs attacking themselves.
Before suggesting the solutions please provide the test cases (preferably integrated into Wine test suite) confirming the above claims. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #10 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-10-10 06:54:10 --- (In reply to comment #9)
Before suggesting the solutions please provide the test cases (preferably integrated into Wine test suite) confirming the above claims.
OK, I made a presumption that you were reading the console outputs and checking my statements there. Here is where I see it from http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=15756: --Snip-- Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x0043f69c in 32-bit code (0x00143440). --Snip-- =>1 0x00143440 (0x00017e2c) 0x00143440: andb %dh,0x0(%esp,%edx,1) --Snip-- This command will and the %dh with the item and the 32bit Stack Pointer added to the 32bit data pointer, which results in the address of 0x0043f69c, it will then place it there at that same memory address (0x0043f69c). It just happens, that this runs a cross-page exploit from a data-command write to the stack pointer, directly into the executable segment of The Sims binary, done by a kernel call from The Sims binary. It was most likely intended to do this. The only part of my analysis that is presumption is that this is intentionally done by the copy protection system to change an specific instruction or constant in the Sims binary, which is a reasonable assumption as many copy protection systems are known to do this. Also, could you point me to where to get this wine test suite you speak of, it would be helpful, as I could help trace where the exact code segment is that needs to be changed, as not to create this crash when run in this manner. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #11 from Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry(a)codeweavers.com> 2008-10-10 08:48:34 --- Looks like a duplicate of the bug 9672. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #12 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-10-10 21:20:03 --- Created an attachment (id=16575) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=16575) error log from The Sims: Complete Collection on Wine 1.1.5 for Ubuntu build. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #13 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-10-11 02:59:44 --- (In reply to comment #11)
Looks like a duplicate of the bug 9672.
Yes, That is a more specific bug, I was expressing that maybe the function should be allowed. This could be done by marking an executable to contain it's stack like Windows does, and then blocking stack overflows with another method. I was attempting to collaborate a little to try and see what other people thought of my analysis. Maybe we should mark it as the blocker, and find someone who's computer is creating that crash. Interestingly, I got a different bug on my wine (stock 1.1.5) I'm going to try it with the newly released 1.1.6 stock, and then with git. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #14 from Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry(a)codeweavers.com> 2008-10-11 03:41:02 --- Have you tried the workaround provided in the comment #4 of the bug 9672? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Philipp Weissenbacher <philipp.weissenbacher(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |philipp.weissenbacher(a)gmail. | |com --- Comment #15 from Philipp Weissenbacher <philipp.weissenbacher(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-11 08:19:49 --- Bug 9672 is most certainly a duplicate of this one. Attaching error log with current stable (1.1.6) for Ubuntu 8.04. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #16 from Philipp Weissenbacher <philipp.weissenbacher(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-11 08:20:50 --- Created an attachment (id=16577) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=16577) Error log for wine 1.1.6 and The Sims Super Deluxe XL -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #17 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-10-11 10:34:01 --- Created an attachment (id=16580) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=16580) Sims Complete Collection with 1.1.6 stock Ubuntu Linux build (from Wine ubuntu repository) Obviously not the same crash. I think there are multiple bugs here. Stated duplicate bug is obviously a duplicate of one of the bugs subset in this bug, should be a blocker. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #18 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2008-10-11 12:27:57 --- (In reply to comment #16) This is dup of bug 15551. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |DUPLICATE --- Comment #19 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-11 17:37:25 --- Dupe *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 15551 *** -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #20 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2008-10-11 17:37:42 --- Closing. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #21 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-10-11 21:32:12 --- Created an attachment (id=16591) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=16591) Trace on NTDLL channel trace on NTDLL channel as NTDLL was indicated as the launch segment for the segfault. Still read fault error, not the write fault error. Seems there are multiple bugs. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |REOPENED Resolution|DUPLICATE | --- Comment #22 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2008-10-12 12:15:53 --- Who said this bug was a duplicate? Reopening. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Depends on| |15551 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #23 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-10-12 18:18:43 --- (In reply to comment #22)
Who said this bug was a duplicate? Reopening.
The other one clearly is a blocker, however, should it be marked as such? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks| |9672 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #16591|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #24 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-10-13 19:39:36 --- Created an attachment (id=16632) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=16632) Trace on NTOSKRNL channel w/ Wine GIT~2008.10.12 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04 I obsoleted the NTDLL which includes the problem call to the kernel to the kernel traces themselves. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #25 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2008-10-13 20:33:14 --- (In reply to comment #24)
Created an attachment (id=16632) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=16632) [details] Trace on NTOSKRNL channel w/ Wine GIT~2008.10.12 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04
This crash is bug 15551 and not related to this one. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #26 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2008-10-13 20:34:03 --- (In reply to comment #24)
Created an attachment (id=16632) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=16632) [details] Trace on NTOSKRNL channel w/ Wine GIT~2008.10.12 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04
I obsoleted the NTDLL which includes the problem call to the kernel to the kernel traces themselves.
PLEASE READ what I said already before!!! Stop posting the same stuff over and over again. The bug I pointed to is not fixed. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Bug 12653 depends on bug 15551, which changed state. Bug 15551 Summary: SafeDisc regression http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15551 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #27 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-10-17 23:44:07 --- (In reply to comment #26)
(In reply to comment #24)
Created an attachment (id=16632) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=16632) [details] [details] Trace on NTOSKRNL channel w/ Wine GIT~2008.10.12 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04
I obsoleted the NTDLL which includes the problem call to the kernel to the kernel traces themselves.
PLEASE READ what I said already before!!! Stop posting the same stuff over and over again. The bug I pointed to is not fixed.
Those were both the same log. Or can you not read. Anyways, it's still a blocker when a new bug prevents us from fixing this bug. Anyways, There was a lot of regression in 1.1.6, and I'll wait for 1.1.7 to work further. I need to give 1.0.1 a try soon(In reply to comment #26)
(In reply to comment #24)
Created an attachment (id=16632) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=16632) [details] [details] Trace on NTOSKRNL channel w/ Wine GIT~2008.10.12 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04
I obsoleted the NTDLL which includes the problem call to the kernel to the kernel traces themselves.
PLEASE READ what I said already before!!! Stop posting the same stuff over and over again. The bug I pointed to is not fixed.
Well, that is the current crash most people are getting, so until that bug is resolved, then that is the current "crash on startup." Could you be a little easier going and take a look from my perspective. I do not see this issue as one problem. It seems this program is hitting bug after bug. I have seen no fewer than 3 different crash causes now, all in the startup sequence. I don't think that it is unlikely that we are hitting multiple bugs. Just because we that bug is causing the crash on 1.1.6 doesn't mean it's causing the crash on 1.1.5 ior 1.0.1. So be a little more respectful, and don't insult people's intelligence by claiming this bug has only one cause. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #28 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-10-19 17:00:12 --- (In reply to comment #26) I'm sorry for blowing up on you like that. Anyways, what I was trying to say, was that the people from this bug should work on that bug, and know exactly what part of that bug is interfering with this bug. After all, that bug is rather broad. Anyways, they were two logs of the same run situation one NTDLL one NTOSKRNL. It's important to have records of logs when these two bugs occure, so we know if a similar regression occures again, and we can get right no it. I felt the NTOSKRNL log was more accurate. As a note, the 1.1.6 crashes on a different error, as it doesn't have the regression. This is why I obsolited the NTDLL one. Next time I post the log I will mark those logs obsolite so long as the new logs appear different. Again I'm sorry for letting my temper rule my wording. It happens to all of us at one time or another. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #29 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2008-10-19 18:27:38 --- (In reply to comment #28) If you didn't notice bug 15551 is fixed. You can get the latest GIT and continue on. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #16575|0 |1 is obsolete| | Attachment #16580|0 |1 is obsolete| | Attachment #16632|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #30 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-11-22 03:20:40 --- Created an attachment (id=17397) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=17397) Sims Complete Collection on Wine 1.1.9 OpenSUSE (Stock OpenSUSE Buildteam version)
From this updated error output
There are sections that I think may need looking into by someone who knows more about the regions of code: FixMes in: service and advapi and then the Errs in seh:raise_exception I obsolited my old error logs because they were all before the kernel regression was fixed. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Depends on| |219 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #17397|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #31 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2008-12-11 17:06:31 --- Created an attachment (id=17846) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=17846) Standard Options log of Sims Complete Collection under Wine 1.1.10 Note issues with following API portions: Services, AdvAPI All related to adjusting permission. Likely Wine is preventing anti-debugger routines from running. I'm not sure if this is part of SafeDisc or a secondary protection program. If someone needs a full trace, speak up. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Jeff Zaroyko <jeffz(a)jeffz.name> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |obfuscation -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #32 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2009-01-07 21:05:19 --- OK, I did a little more research today, and depending on the version of your binary the Sims uses various SafeDisc versions ranging from 1.4 (the orriginal 1.0 release) to 2.9 (Making Magic, Double Deluxe, Complete Collection, etc.) I had suspected that there was such varience, and this may be causing problems in the efforts to debug this software. Due to this I will start attaching my Outside package title, outside package ISBN#, Outside Package part#, region and disc 1 copyright date in the details of any future output logs and AppDB entries I post, and recommend that other people do the same. BTW my version is Complete Collection ISBN# 0-7845-3856-5 Part# 1647411, US, (C) 2005 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #33 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2009-07-08 15:05:24 --- Is this still an issue in current (1.1.25 or newer) wine? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #34 from Chris Wales <chris(a)chrobis.com> 2009-07-09 13:59:54 --- Confirmed still present in Wine 1.1.25. I'm attaching a fresh console log -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Chris Wales <chris(a)chrobis.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #12301|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #35 from Chris Wales <chris(a)chrobis.com> 2009-07-09 14:02:44 --- Created an attachment (id=22302) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=22302) Console log for The Sims -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Johan Gill <johan.gill(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |johan.gill(a)gmail.com --- Comment #36 from Johan Gill <johan.gill(a)gmail.com> 2009-07-21 15:46:28 --- Chris, which Sims release do you run? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #37 from Chris Wales <chris(a)chrobis.com> 2009-07-21 16:00:53 --- Just the vanilla version, straight out of the box... I'll run again in 1.1.26 now and report back shortly :) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #38 from Chris Wales <chris(a)chrobis.com> 2009-07-21 16:18:15 --- Yup, still present in 1.1.26 - console output looks the same, and I still get the following complains if I attempt to run in Win98 mode: fixme:vxd:VXD_Open Unknown/unsupported VxD L"sice.vxd". Try setting Windows version to 'nt40' or 'win31'. fixme:vxd:VXD_Open Unknown/unsupported VxD L"siwvid.vxd". Try setting Windows version to 'nt40' or 'win31'. fixme:vxd:VXD_Open Unknown/unsupported VxD L"ntice.vxd". Try setting Windows version to 'nt40' or 'win31'. Other than that, the errors generated from running as Win2000 or WinXP are the same. I get the output shown in the topmost attachment above, and a dialog saying "The program Sims.exe has encountered a serious problem and needs to close." -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #39 from Johan Gill <johan.gill(a)gmail.com> 2009-07-21 17:26:13 --- At the moment this bug is a bit non-focused. Could we settle for one version of the sims to discuss here, and keep the other one in another bug? That way, when the issue is solved for one version, that bug can be closed. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Chris Wales <chris(a)chrobis.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|The Sims crashes on startup |The Sims 1.0 crashes on | |startup --- Comment #40 from Chris Wales <chris(a)chrobis.com> 2009-07-22 03:31:11 --- I've modified the title - I think it was always meant to be about The Sims 1.0 (there are no mentions of The Sims 2 or The Sims 3 here; and Sims 1 is listed an affected app). If we need more specific than that, let's focus on it as a simple vanilla install of The Sims 1.0 - no patches, no expansion packs. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #41 from Johan Gill <johan.gill(a)gmail.com> 2009-07-27 05:25:38 --- Something goes wrong accessing the Secdrv device. To be continued... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #42 from Johan Gill <johan.gill(a)gmail.com> 2009-07-27 05:28:07 --- Looking at a relay trace, the Secdrv service is started, but "\\.\Secdrv" is still not found. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #43 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2009-07-27 08:13:05 --- What version of safedisk is this? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #44 from Johan Gill <johan.gill(a)gmail.com> 2009-07-27 09:28:04 --- Version 1.40.4. If I try to just throw a handle back at the app, it does DeviceIoControl. Darn. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #45 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2009-07-27 19:03:43 --- Attach +ntoskrnl,+tid trace. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #46 from Johan Gill <johan.gill(a)gmail.com> 2009-07-28 18:29:24 --- Well, it seems CreateFile fails because Wine simply doesn't support accessing devices with CreateFile except for filesystem devices and some special cases like AUX, CON and so on. I can provide some logs after some sleep. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #47 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2009-07-28 18:59:13 --- (In reply to comment #46)
Well, it seems CreateFile fails because Wine simply doesn't support accessing devices with CreateFile except for filesystem devices and some special cases like AUX, CON and so on. Wrong. I don't even want to go into details, you can see for yourself in ntdll, server & ntoskrnl.exe
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http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #48 from Johan Gill <johan.gill(a)gmail.com> 2009-08-02 07:36:28 --- Created an attachment (id=22779) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=22779) Trace from OpenService to the failed CreateFile Ok, I misunderstood some parts of the DOS device code. What really happens is that the wineserver can't find "/??/Secdrv". I guess the driver setup should create it somewhere, but I haven't found it in the code yet. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #49 from Johan Gill <johan.gill(a)gmail.com> 2009-08-02 07:39:58 --- I meant \??\Secdrv. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #50 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2010-03-12 21:18:11 --- I was interested in making some fresh logs for debuggers on this, sometime later this month (a little busy right now, barely enough time to check up on this bug) Any specific log options that I should use? Also, are there any hidden options I should change before hand, either by winetricks or by hand? Maybe recent enhancements to wine will at least shed some light on the issues. Last I checked (mid-february) the game (The Sims Complete Collection multi-CD version) still did not work on Wine, but now installs 100% OK. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Luke Bratch <l_bratch(a)yahoo.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |l_bratch(a)yahoo.co.uk -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #51 from Robert Wm Ruedisueli <esd45(a)earthlink.net> 2010-07-14 20:23:08 --- Anyone test this recently. I was going to test this with the latest version of Wine the next time I had a free moment. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 --- Comment #52 from Fernando <fernandocarvalho1987(a)hotmail.com> 2010-12-07 21:15:17 CST --- Created an attachment (id=32405) --> (http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=32405) Execution log of the sims The Sims is not starting on wine 1.3.8 and Ubuntu 10.10. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Anastasius Focht <focht(a)gmx.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |focht(a)gmx.net --- Comment #53 from Anastasius Focht <focht(a)gmx.net> 2011-06-07 15:59:21 CDT --- Hello, please retest this using recent Wine set to "Windows 2000". If Sims 1.0 is using SafeDisc 1.x this the same issue as bug 21147 (so possible dupe). If it still doesn't work, state exact Wine version and the version of SafeDisc using ProtectionID Scanner. Regards -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Bug 12653 depends on bug 219, which changed state. Bug 219 Summary: Programs refuse to run because of safedisc copy-protection http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Anastasius Focht <focht(a)gmx.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|The Sims 1.0 crashes on |The Sims 1.0 crashes on |startup |startup (SafeDisc 1.x: | |secdrv.sys doesn't support | |WinVer > Win2000) --- Comment #54 from Anastasius Focht <focht(a)gmx.net> 2012-01-27 13:57:52 CST --- Hello, bought the game for a few bucks. There is nothing to fix here. As I already guessed (comment #53) you have to set WinVer to "Windows 2000" to have the SafeDisc 1.x driver to work. --- snip --- -=[ ProtectionID v0.6.4.0 JULY]=- (c) 2003-2010 CDKiLLER & TippeX Build 07/08/10-17:57:05 Ready... Scanning -> Z:\home\focht\.wine\drive_c\Program Files\Maxis\Die Sims\Dplayerx.dll File Type : 32-Bit Dll (Subsystem : Win GUI / 2), Size : 172544 (02A200h) Byte(s) [File Heuristics] -> Flag : 00000000000001001100000000000001 (0x0004C001) [!] Safedisc core dll (dplayerx.dll) detected! [CompilerDetect] -> Visual C++ 5.0 - Scan Took : 0.558 Second(s) Scanning -> Z:\home\focht\.wine\drive_c\Program Files\Maxis\Die Sims\Drvmgt.dll File Type : 32-Bit Dll (Subsystem : Win GUI / 2), Size : 31744 (07C00h) Byte(s) [File Heuristics] -> Flag : 00000000000001001100000000000000 (0x0004C000) [!] Safedisc driver managment dll (drvmgt.dll) detected! [CompilerDetect] -> Visual C++ 5.0 - Scan Took : 0.575 Second(s) Scanning -> Z:\home\focht\.wine\drive_c\Program Files\Maxis\Die Sims\Secdrv.sys File Type : 32-Bit Driver (good checksum) (Subsystem : Native / 1), Size : 10848 (02A60h) Byte(s) -> File has 2368 (0940h) bytes of appended data starting at offset 02120h [File Heuristics] -> Flag : 00000000000000000000000000000111 (0x00000007) [!] Safedisc protection driver (secdrv.sys) detected! - Scan Took : 0.571 Second(s) Scanning -> Z:\home\focht\.wine\drive_c\Program Files\Maxis\Die Sims\Sims.exe File Type : 32-Bit Exe (Subsystem : Win GUI / 2), Size : 265928 (040EC8h) Byte(s) -> File has 18120 (046C8h) bytes of appended data starting at offset 03C800h [File Heuristics] -> Flag : 00000000000001001100000000000101 (0x0004C005) [!] Safedisc v1.40.004 detected ! [CompilerDetect] -> Visual C++ 5.0 - Scan Took : 0.541 Second(s) --- snip --- Regards -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Anastasius Focht <focht(a)gmx.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Component|kernel32 |-unknown Resolution| |DUPLICATE --- Comment #55 from Anastasius Focht <focht(a)gmx.net> 2012-01-27 13:59:19 CST --- Hello, marking dupe of bug 21147 Regards *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 21147 *** -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #56 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> 2012-01-28 14:04:17 CST --- Closing. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653 Anastasius Focht <focht(a)gmx.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |gaming4jc2(a)yahoo.com --- Comment #57 from Anastasius Focht <focht(a)gmx.net> 2013-10-04 13:12:41 CDT --- *** Bug 21105 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
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