April 2003 - Wine-devel - list.winehq.org

winehq mailing list archives being harvested by spammers
by Dan Kegel 24 Apr '03

24 Apr '03

Hi, executive summary: "please obscure the email addresses in the winehq mailing list archives, I'm drowning in spam"! I am facing a tidal wave of spam. Recent research showed that the main way spammers get email addresses is by web crawling. Therefore, I'm doing a web search for my work email address (dank at ixiacom.com) and doing my best to erase all mention of it. I hate doing this, but the spam is getting so bad I have to do something, and spam filtering isn't quite doing the job. I expect others are now or will soon be in the same situation. Most mentions of my work address are in web archives of mailing lists. While many mailing lists have instituted some privacy controls, many others have not. Here's a couple examples of archived messages containing my work address: http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-users/2001/09/0474.html http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-devel/2003/02/0190.html I have no specific evidence the wine archives in particular have been harvested by spammers, but if Google can see my address there, so can they... Examples of effective privacy measures for mailing list archives include: * restricting archive access to list members * not restricting access, but using the HTTP password mechanism to discourage spiders (e.g. perforce-users mailing list) * simply obscuring all email addresses in message headers or trailers That last countermeasure is my favorite one, since it means that Google will still have full access to the info in the list archive. I would greatly appreciate it if the archive would institute one of the above spam countermeasures (preferably the last one). I understand that overly harsh spam countermeasures would be harmful to normal discourse, but I trust some useful middle ground can be found. Thanks, Dan Kegel -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045

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Re: ODBC
by Bill Medland 24 Apr '03

24 Apr '03

On April 23, 2003 09:46 am, Ludueña, Leonardo wrote: > We have an application developed by our company, that > application use a ODBC connection. I need to know if there > previous experiencies with that kind of port. > > TIA What do you want to know? The builtin version of odbc32.dll basically acts as a connection to any underlying unix ODBC (e.g. unixODBC or iODBC; I only have experience of unixODBC). Therefore it basically handles just about anything that the underlying ODBC does. We use it against IBM DB2 databases, and I think we have succeeded (sort of, in the past) against Oracle databases. The problem against MS-SQL and other databases is finding a unixODBC driver. The other possibility is to use a native Microsoft odbc32.dll and its drivers (if that is legal) and depend upon Wine handling the low-level network stuff etc. I don't personally have any experience of that. -- Bill Medland ACCPAC International, Inc. medbi01(a)accpac.com Corporate: www.accpac.com Hosted Services: www.accpaconline.com

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Re: PATCH: include/objidl.h
by Uwe Bonnes 24 Apr '03

24 Apr '03

>>>>> "Gerald" == Gerald Pfeifer <pfeifer(a)dbai.tuwien.ac.at> writes: Gerald> Modern compilers (such as the one shipped with SuSE Linux 8.2) Gerald> complain about this construct, which is quite useless anyway. Gerald> Gerald Gerald> ChangeLog: Remove useless DUMMYSTRUCTNAME from _userSTGMEDIUM. Gerald, either this is wrong for the other 30 occurances in ~/include, or more explanation is needed, why this is wrong here and not in the other places. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

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I: Wine and SQl server.
by Carlo Pelini 24 Apr '03

24 Apr '03

> -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Carlo Pelini > Inviato: giovedì 24 aprile 2003 17.42 > A: 'wine-users(a)Winehq.com' > Oggetto: Wine and SQl server. > > Hy. I am a computer science student, and I am studing wine for my degree > thesis. > I have succeded to run VisualFoxPro on wine and by VisualFoxPro i have > succeded to utilize the unixODBC and the ODBC windows. With the unixODBC I > have succeded to open a connession with a database SQL server, to execute > a interrogation and to visualize the result. > For to can to do there, I dont'have utilized directly the driver SQL > server, but I have utilzed easysoft ODBC-ODBC bridge > (http://www.easysoft.com/products/oob/main.phtml) a ODBCF driver, which > do precisely from bridge between the ODBC client and the ODBC server, and > allow the connession with a database SQL server. > Thank at there proceeding, I have succeded to run AD HOC REVOLUTION, a > managerial software, even if is slow. > Bye.

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Server Crash
by Jeremy Newman 24 Apr '03

24 Apr '03

It's time for the annual server crash kids! Whee! Our server melted last night at about 3am or so after 2 days of solid high traffic (the load average was up over 100). I managed to get it up and running with some WD-40, Duct Tape, and some bubble gum. I can't guarantee uptime right now. I AM, however, scrambling to beef it up to handle the load. I apologize in advance for any further downtime. As you can imagine, with all this good press, I don't want the server do be down any longer than a few nanoseconds. If anyone has a quad processor Xeon they are not using, feel free to send it my way. :-D -- Jeremy Newman <jnewman(a)codeweavers.com> CodeWeavers, Inc.

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Wintab32 dll devlopment
by Robert North 23 Apr '03

23 Apr '03

I have just posted a status update on my wintab32 development to the following wine bug. http://bugs.winehq.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1160 And following on from that update there are a number of questions I need answered to guide my further development: 1. Cross over office and tablets. I heard somewhere that Crossover office had a tablet implementation. Does anyone know about this, and who to contact to find out more? If they've got an implementation of wintab, I wonder if it's worth continuing the development. 2. When to post patches I could start producing patches quite soon. For instance, I could post patches when the WTInfo function is working. Or, I could wait till the whole system is working fully with at least one app? 3. Size of the patches. Is it better to break patches into small (valid compile, but non-functioning) chunks, or to release large functioning patches? 4. Config files Wintab will need some config data. I assume the best place to put this is in the ~/.wine/config file, within a registry key named "wintab"? 5. Development notes. I have some notes on the design that other developers will probably find useful. Where in the wine project should they go? There seems to be no place for rough notes. 6. x11drv integration. Currently the code is implemented to connect to X11 in a similar way to directX. No additional code is placed in the x11drv dll. This X11 connection should be discarded. To this end I have a number of functions that I'd like to place in x11drv dll. The question is: Should I put them into x11drv before releasing any patches, or maintain the directX style connection in the initial wine patches? 7. Cross-platform abilities Is there any need to think about allowing alternatives to XInput to plug into the wintab dll? Yeah, I know that's a lot of questions, But I hope you guys can give me some guidance. Bye -Rob.

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WineHQ's CVS server performance..
by Lionel Ulmer 23 Apr '03

23 Apr '03

Hi all, Am I the only to find the current CVS performance abyssmal ? About 5 minutes for a CVS update and 10 for a CVS diff is not what I usually have on my connection... Let's hope it's Alexandre merging all the Crossover Office 2.0 patches <g>. Lionel -- Lionel Ulmer - http://www.bbrox.org/

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CVS Character set (was: lostwages/templates/en documentation.template)
by Joerg Mayer 23 Apr '03

23 Apr '03

I'm noticing that during the last few weeks several mails have been sent to the cvs list that use 8-bit characters but do not specifiy an encoding in the mail header. Would it be possible to either add one (depends on whether cvs does recognize the encoding type) or remove those extra characters? On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 01:28:01PM -0500, Jeremy Newman wrote: > Log message: > ChangeLog > Â Â Â Dimitrie O. Paun <dpaun(a)rogers.com> > Â Â Â Remove references to no longer existing document. > > Patch: http://cvs.winehq.com/patch.py?id=7945 Thanks Jörg -- Joerg Mayer <jmayer(a)loplof.de> We are stuck with technology when what we really want is just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology.

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RE: FoxPro & Wine :)
by Patrik Stridvall 23 Apr '03

23 Apr '03

> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Patrik Stridvall wrote: > > > While, I suppose, you can have a license the regulates this to, even > > if the LGPL doesn't, the problem is the doctrine of first sale means > > anybody that it can be distributed to can resell (or give) that copy > > to anybody that can't be distributed directly to. > > And that is in no contradiction with the (L)GPL, as it does not > restrict to whom we can redistribute, but rather under what > conditions a derived work can be distributed. But that is exactly what I said above. Should I interpret it as you agree? But please note that the last step meantioned above is not distribution, it is sale (or gift) on an invidual copy allowed by first sale. And as I said earlier, it makes the conditions for redistribution is rather meaningless, since anybody regardless or willingless or abillity to follow the redistribution conditional can indirectly for all intent and purposed have distributed to anybody your work, while seperately distributing anything that uses, modififies, adapts etc your work for his purposes on the end users computer. The situation for the Microsoft Visual FoxPro (MVFP) runtime is almost identical since you analagous to above can for all intent and purpose have it distributed seperately. Summary: Microsoft released the MVFP runtime for all intent an purpose for free since they thought that charging for it would be bad for their purposes. Some people release some work under the LGPL because they thought charging for it would be bad for their purposes... Nobody can both have the cake and eat it. Microsoft can't, I can't, you can't... And futher more, again, Copyright law is designed that way on purpose, not by accident.

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odd message
by Robert Lunnon 23 Apr '03

23 Apr '03

I am debugging a shareware game my kids often play called little fighter 2 (It deadlocks after creating the third thread) But before I get to the deadloack I noticed I get the following two messages from wine, err:module:BUILTIN_LoadModule loaded .so but dll wineaudioio.drv still not found err:module:BUILTIN_LoadModule loaded .so but dll joystick.drv still not found from what I can see wine is loading the two shared libraries ok and __wine_dll_register gets properly called EG Breakpoint 2, __wine_dll_register (header=0xdcb82480, filename=0xdcb721f6 "wineaudioio.drv") at loader.c:327 Yet find_dll_descr( dllname ) in builtin.c fails to find the name ?? Any hints would be appreciated

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