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The status of the wintab dll
by Robert North 24 Dec '07

24 Dec '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think after the 10 or more patches to the Wintab dll that I submitted last month, I should say something about it's status... And of course thank Alexandre for applying those patches. P.S. I won't be available from the 15th for about a week or so. So, if you have any questions, I'm afraid you might have to be patient. Hope this is of interest to someone -Rob. ******Applications: Current status*********** ***In Painter 5 *Cursor pressure works. (Therefore is usable by most) *Cursor orientation is a little odd: The orientation maths needs to be re-done. *No eraser. Haven't yet cracked what enables the eraser. *Doesn't work in desktop mode: Need to map to desktop coordinates. *Repeats windows bugs where cursor looses pressure/orientation info almost bug for bug (Is this a feature? ;-) *Cannot detect pressure/orientation int the "Brush Tracking" window: The tablet context is attached to the main window, so no events get to the popup, even if they overlap. This is not how windows wintab functions. ***In Photoshop 6. *Can only get tablet data in desktop mode: This is because the tablet context is attached to the desktop. Which generates/receives no wine events outside desktop mode. * Eraser and pen pressure working. *But* to get them working, you must have 3 XInput devices listed in your XF86Config file, They need to be the last entries in the "ServerLayout" section and the following order: eraser, tablet mouse. This is a far from ideal way of specifying the devices Wintab should use :-/ I'll document this if someone can point me to a good place to put the docs. *******To Do************* 1. Look at X11 errors. There appear to be some errors that deny some users the ability to access Wintab enabled apps. (I think I know how to fix this) 2. Improve orientation data. Orientation comes in as X-Y coords (Implicit Z), and has to leave as spherical coords. This calculation needs to be re-done. 3. When tablet context is on top, let it read XInput events from all the app's top-level windows. (This simulates the fact that the context is usually designed to cover the whole screen) 4. When tablet context is attached to desktop, read XInput events from all the app's top-level windows. 5. Tests ~ --My current philosophy on tests is... ~ Use Photoshop & Painter, any formal tests ~ can be written if anyone else gets involved in patching Wintab, to avoid regressions, and conflict. **********Long term to do (Anyone interested?):********* There's a lot of work that could be done here, but what gets done and who does it probably depends upon whether anyone finds an app that needs these features. I'd love to implement these, but realistically, I don't foresee doing this unless someone hires me to do so ;) 1. Improve configuration of wintab. Wintab could probably do with some information entered into the config file, to avoid the user having to hack their Xfree86cfg file. 2. Handle Z-Order of context properly. This entails *sharing Z-Order between apps. *Working out exactly what role windows have in determining tablet context z-orders. *Allow tablet contexts that don't cover the whole screen/tablet. *Handle inter-application clipping of tablet contexts *Allow all application's windows to receive tablet events when tablet context is on top 3. Implement non-system tablet contexts (Where system cursor not moved by pen or mouse) 4. Unicodify 5. Implement various wintab extensions. 6. Implement wintab manager functions. 7. Tests. *********Unknowns********* 1. How are wintab contexts are raised lowered? Contexts have their own z-order independent of windows, and their own viewport concept, based upon the tablet's coordinate system, not that of the OS. It appears that entering, or clicking on the window the tablet context is attached to will raise/lower the context. But I haven't done much testing on this. In particular, what happens if more than one app request their tablet context is attached to the desktop? 2. How Painter detects the eraser. Have 3 possibilities i. Windows can detect an eraser, and sends specific messages. (I'm sure I've seen this, but can't work out where!) ii. Only works if tablet and cursors are named correctly. (Probably linked to wacom tablets only). iii. I've missed something 3. Requirements of other applications -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCC8zI2vfwxdLxwWYRAsisAJ4q2gAYTgRc6f9wDI+Ruv943eDxOQCfcl3s /ZKMUGwQOuw/SIIbOkIUbd0= =R4M7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Window geometry problem
by Pavel Troller 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

Hi! I would like to report a long lasting problem with an application, which renders its main window incorrectly in wine. The app is "iRiver caption editor" and it can be freely downloaded at http://www.iriveramerica.com/download/ce.zip . Installation of the program is easy and proceeds and the program itself runs well, but its window looks like a total mess. For a snapshot, look at http://www.sinus.cz/~patrol/ircape.png . I think it's not necessary to write more, what's wrong, simply the widgets are misplaced, incorrectly sized, the window has scrollbars, which it IMHO shouldn't have etc. The window is not resizable. It's the only app known to me which exhibits such a behaviour. I don't have a possibility to test it on a real windoze system, I don't have it. I'm about to file a bug for it, but I'm asking first here to verify that it's not an easily resolvable problem with my setup etc., and also whether a similar (or the same) behaviour isn't already registered. With regards, Pavel Troller

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Half-Life 2 / Counter-Strike: Source under Wine
by James Liggett 31 Oct '05

31 Oct '05

Hi, Out of curiosity, has anyone successfully been able to play HL2 or CS:S under wine? Today I finally worked out the kinks getting the original HL to work, and I know some people have been playing around with this stuff. Currently, HL2 and CS:S freeze over on startup. Has anyone even gotten it to start or even play? James Liggett

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App db not accepting screen shots....
by Oliver Stieber 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Hi, The application DB won't let me upload a screen shot, I get 'connection to host was lost' or 'page contains no data'. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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More debugger quesions
by Robert Lunnon 04 Sep '05

04 Sep '05

Well we are getting somewhere When my test application segfaults the debugger attaches and runs through a number of debug events eventually ariving at a segfault strace:winedbg:dbg_handle_debug_event 00000008:00000009: loads DLL c: \windows\system\imm32.dll @7f440000 (0<0>) trace:winedbg:dbg_handle_debug_event 00000008:00000009: exception code=80000003 Now I added some instrumentation and find the following happens IE trace:winedbg:dbg_handle_debug_event Continue on first exception is true trace:winedbg:dbg_handle_debug_event Breaking switch trace:winedbg:dbg_handle_debug_event Call ContinueDebugEvent trace:winedbg:dbg_handle_debug_event Continuing executio trace:winedbg:dbg_main_loop Wait for next debug event... In this code at the top of dbg_main_loop if (dbg_curr_process) dbg_printf("WineDbg starting on pid 0x%lx\n", dbg_curr_pid); /* wait for first exception */ while (WaitForDebugEvent(&de, INFINITE)) { WINE_TRACE("Calling handle_debug_event 2\n"); if (dbg_handle_debug_event(&de)) {WINE_TRACE("Event handled\n");break;} WINE_TRACE("Wait for next debug event...\n"); } Problem is that the client program is stopped, probably on a segfault trace because I enable tracing (stops) on all machine faults and signals when I attached it (this allows my replacement for wait4 to find out if a fault or signal happened in the debuggee). Everything deadlocks then since the debugger never continues the program after the exception (Or perhaps the wineserver never gets a message to restart it) Perhaps I don't understand the semantics of PTRACE wait4 interactions. Should I just let the app trap machine faults ? All help appreciated Bob

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wined3d - d3d9 regression testing
by Oliver Stieber 03 Sep '05

03 Sep '05

Hi, Wined3d in CVS is now in a reasonable state to start regression testing new changes against. I usually regression test against a few game demos and DirectX 9 tutorials, I'm going to list the DirectX 9 tutorials as they start to work (there are 68 tutorials that work with the big patch). The current list of working DirectX 9 demos is: from http://www.codesampler.com/dx9src.htm dx9_1pass_emboss_bump_mapping dx9_2pass_emboss_bump_mapping dx9_alpha_blending_texture dx9_multiple_vertex_buffers dx9_texture_dot3_blending dx9_texture_filtering dx9_texture_mipmapping dx9_texture_subloading dx9_tokamak_chain dx9_transforms dx9_vertex_data dx9_view_matrix dx9_view_ports dx9_spot_light dx9_texture dx9_texture_addressing (has a mipmapping error with ATI's drivers) dx9_primitive_types dx9_point_light dx9_dot3_bump_mapping dx9_effect_simple dx9_fonts dx9_indexed_geometry dx9_initialization dx9_lighting (has a slight artifact) dx9_material dx9_multitexture dx9_offscreen_rendering (faked) dx9_2d_demo_game (text for non-power2 textures, ship doesn't animate yet) from http://triplebuffer.devmaster.net/tutorials.php BumpMapping tb_dx9_03 tb_dx9_04 tb_dx9_05 (sort of) tb_dx9_06 tb_dx9_07 tb_dx9_08 tb_dx9_09 tb_dx9_10 from http://www.clootie.ru/delphi/download_dx90.html#Direct3D Tut01_CreateDevice Tut02_Vertices Tut03_Matrices Tut04_Lights Tut05_Textures Tut06_Meshes cull ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: Software patents
by gslink 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

The whole business of software patents is very likely to explode at any time. There are several software patents on cds and dvds which are so vague that it is impossible to tell exactly what is going on. The licenses to use these patents allow the company issuing the patent to control cd content and to examine it. The first time one of these companies tries to use the license to access DOD classified information there will be a resolution. The easiest way to resolve this business with Borland is to contact Borland. They may also have an interest in Wine. If they have no objection to what Wine wants to do then there is no one else to complain. They might even help Wine. Borland probably doesn't even realize that Wine exists although some of the people in Borland are probably very familiar with it. I think you will find this to be true of all big software companies such as IBM and Microsoft.

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Automatic ANSI<>Unicode message translation
by Phil Krylov 22 Aug '05

22 Aug '05

Hi, I am having a problem with an app of mine. It posts WM_CHAR messages to a ANSI window with Unicode value in LOWORD(wParam). Wine automatically translates the character code to ANSI (producing a "?" when there is no such code in CP_ACP). Windows does not do it (contrary to documentation). Here is attached (source and binary) a quick and dirty sample application which shows the problem. I could remove map_wparam_AtoW() and map_wparam_WtoA() from dlls/user/message.c, but probably somebody needs that translation. Does anybody have an idea of a better fix for that bug? -- Ph.

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Mouse-buttons swapped after winetest
by Paul Vriens 19 Aug '05

19 Aug '05

Hi, with the latest winetest http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/users/paulm/WRT/CrossBuilt/winetest-200506211000… my mouse-buttons (left and right) are swapped after the test. Any idea?? Cheers, Paul.

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Frequent and annoying Wine bug
by Robbert Xerox 15 Aug '05

15 Aug '05

Hi , i know this is not a wine-bug channel, but this bug is affecting quite some apps, and seems to affect more and more ... At least five apps from wine-bug mailinglist throw up an exception which either reads: "Assertion Failed !bogus context in Local_Unwind()" or "in Exception_Handler". As a reference a filed 2 bugs, and commented another one where you can read the +relay,+seh logs: Bug 3097 Bug 3127 Bug 3139 Some googling around makes me believe that this is a Borland specific error. I tried to install Demo Borland compiler in wine to see if i could reproduce this error, but unfortunately it fails with exactly the same error. all programs show the same pattern before an exception is thrown: they call LoadstringA() ,with something like L"Failed to get data for '%s'" or L"Access violation at address %p in module '%s'. %s of address %p" See the bugs for more info. I think this bug is really affecting quite some more apps then the ones mentioned in wine-bugs so would be great if anyone could shine a light on this, as of how to solve the bug. Regards ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

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