May 2008 - Wine-devel - list.winehq.org

IMM / IME work
by Aric Stewart 16 Jun '16

16 Jun '16

Hello all, I know this will only interest a small portion of you but thought i would give a quick update on the state of IMM32 since I have brought it to a major milestone. All the main patches are in which now separate IMM32 and IMEs. There is still more work to do but the major framework is in place. X11 XIM processing should be unchanged. However wine can now begin to load native windows IMEs as well. I have tested with windows ATOK20 (a popular Japanese IME) and successfully had text processing in a fully IME aware application. There are still clear issues to resolve in many aspects of this processing but we have forward progress. ImmInstallIME does not work yet, nor does switching keyboards. So to get the native IME to work you need to add this registry key. [System\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\Keyboard Layouts\\<keyboard layout>] "Ime File"=<IME filename> so for example for ATOK20 in Japanese i used. [System\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\Keyboard Layouts\\e0010411] "Ime File"="ATOK20W.IME" I would love to hear how well things work. I am sure using native IMEs will quickly show us many places where IMM32 needs to be improved. One issues I am going to investigate next is that sometimes non x11drv ime initialization, if occurring too early, causes x11drv to fail to create windows. I have not investigated with the latest changes to xim.c (which may already correct this problem) but if you see this problem this patch may help and i believe the IME_UpdateAssociation(NULL) is already unneeded. diff --git a/dlls/winex11.drv/xim.c b/dlls/winex11.drv/xim.c index d4df9f7..0c98136 100644 --- a/dlls/winex11.drv/xim.c +++ b/dlls/winex11.drv/xim.c @@ -475,7 +475,6 @@ static void X11DRV_OpenIM(Display *display, XPointer ptr, XP XUnregisterIMInstantiateCallback(display, NULL, NULL, NULL, X11DRV_OpenIM, wine_tsx11_unlock(); IME_XIMPresent(TRUE); - IME_UpdateAssociation(NULL); } thanks, -aric

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What happened to the Fedora packages?
by Neal Gompa 02 Aug '14

02 Aug '14

What happened to the Fedora packages? They have not been updated since 0.9.2!!!! Right now it is at 0.9.10!!! Nearly every other Linux distro supported has the up to date packages!!! And why does the Red Hat packages site not go to the SourceForge site as it does for SUSE packages and the others?? I have not really had the guts to ask until now, because I thought that maybe there was a slump, but now, its getting annoying!! And Fedora just released Fedora Core 5 yesterday!!! Please tell me new packages will be ready soon!!! Compiling WINE always crashes my computer, so I prefer to use the RPMs...

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winspool: ERROR_INVALID_NAME in GetDefaultPrinter() ?
by Detlef Riekenberg 09 Oct '13

09 Oct '13

Hi. >From which configuration does the "ERROR_INVALID_NAME" came from, when calling GetDefaultPrinter(NULL, &size) and no Printer is installed? This Test is Present in the current "dlls/winspool/tests/info.c". MSDN told us, that we receive an "ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND", if no Printer is installed: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/gdi/prntspol_0hma.asp I get the "ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND" on win98se, winme, w2k and win2003 in this Situation. -- By By ... ... Detlef

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re: Wine t-shirts?
by Dan Kegel 02 Sep '09

02 Sep '09

Maarten wrote: > Why don't we have wine t-shirts any more? I dunno, where were they before? I just looked, couldn't find any on cafepress.com. I'd like to bring back the Codeweavers drunken penguin t-shirts, perhaps with a slightly more generic Wine design. Coincidentally, I found some site on the net had taken the logo from that shirt and erased the Crossover logo from the wine bottle; here's a cleaned-up copy: http://kegel.com/wine/wine-penguin-corkscrew.png

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winequartz.drv Mac OS X UI discontinued?
by Adam Strzelecki 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

Hi, I know that CodeWeavers supports quite nicely Mac builds of Wine, and CrossOver for Mac, yet all of them are X11. There was also once Darwine - an effort to provide Carbon Wine UI driver and Mac optimizations & L&F. Pretty many of those were merged back to Wine, but not winequartz.drv. Do you guys think about reviving winequartz.drv? This would greatly improve Wine on Mac as we could have native Mac fonts handling that's faster than FreeType, Dock icons for Wine applications, and few others. There's still old copy of the it hanging around, but it is abandoned, and no longer compiles with Wine. Or I think it would be cool to write new winecocoa.drv or sthing like that, as Apple officially states that Carbon is deprecated. While it is not well documented, it is pretty easy with Cocoa to make console non-bundled process to be UI foreground process and handle events and Dock: (This code is copyrighted by myself ;P) > int main(int argc, const char * argv[]) { > ProcessSerialNumber psn = {0, kCurrentProcess}; > OSStatus returnCode = TransformProcessType(&psn, > kProcessTransformToForegroundApplication); > SetFrontProcess(&psn); > > NSAutoreleasePool *pool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init]; > [NSApplication sharedApplication]; > > NSImage *icon = [NSImage imageNamed:@"NSApplicationIcon"]; > [NSApp setApplicationIconImage:icon]; > > [NSApp finishLaunching]; > > NSWindow *window = [[NSWindow alloc] > initWithContentRect:NSMakeRect(0, 0, 100, 100) > styleMask:NSTitledWindowMask| > NSClosableWindowMask|NSMiniaturizableWindowMask|NSResizableWindowMask > backing:NSBackingStoreBuffered defer:NO]; > [window center]; > [window setTitle:@"Test"]; > > NSButton *button = [[NSButton alloc] > initWithFrame:NSMakeRect(10, 10, 80, 80)]; > [button setTitle:@"What?"]; > [button setBezelStyle:1]; > [[window contentView] addSubview:button]; > [button release]; > > [window makeKeyAndOrderFront:NSApp]; > > while(1) { > NSEvent *event = [NSApp > nextEventMatchingMask:NSAnyEventMask > untilDate > :[NSDate distantFuture] > inMode:NSDefaultRunLoopMode > dequeue:YES > ]; > if(event) [NSApp sendEvent:event]; > } > [pool release]; > return 0; > } BTW. I heard that someone previously working for Wine project is now in Apple, it is true? Regards, -- Adam Strzelecki |: nanoant.com :|

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Wine desktop integration: current directory of app launched with doubleclick?
by Dan Kegel 15 Feb '09

15 Feb '09

I *almost* have a great success story to report; the only thing keeping it from being a success story is the current directory chosen by Nautilus when double-clicking on .exe files. My wife hurt a finger trying to impersonate a Sampsonite Luggage gorilla, and had to go to a hand doctor. Along the way her hand got x-rayed, and the doctor handed her a cd-rom with the x-ray pictures on it. The disc has an autorun.inf on it that should start ViewSel.exe. I don't know if that's supposed to work with Wine and Nautilus, but probably doubleclicking on ViewSel.exe does the same thing. ViewSel.exe puts up two big buttons: low res (which launches a web browser on an html file), and high res (which launches a DICOM viewer). If you cd to the root of the cd-rom drive and run ViewSel, it works. If the current directory is anything else, it doesn't work. If you start the autorun app via Nautilus, those buttons don't work, so presumably it sets the current directory to something other than the root of the drive. To see, I created a wrapper shell script, ~/bin/mywine, containing #!/bin/sh pwd > /tmp/log and used "Start with" to launch ViewSel.exe with ~/bin/mywine. This showed that the current directory was $HOME. I had a look at the gnome code to see how it decided, but it was a bit hard to follow. (See gnome_vfs_mime_application_launch_with_env.) So I tried a little shell magic. I created a new wrapper shell script that assumes the argument is a path to a file, and sets the current directory to the directory containing that file: #!/bin/sh DIR=`dirname "$1"` DIR=`cd "$DIR"; pwd` cd "$DIR" wine "$@" That worked better; it let ViewSel.exe launch the DICOM viewer. So... I suppose the next step is to look at the debian/ubuntu packages for wine and see if that little wrapper script could be incorporated into the default way file browsers start wine? It sure would be nice if apps that expected the current directory to behave like this (it's not uncommon!) Just Worked. - Dan

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Free apps bundled with msvcp71?
by Dan Kegel 29 Sep '08

29 Sep '08

Adobe Contribute 4, released in Nov 2006 or so, had a nice online trial at http://trials.adobe.com/Applications/Contribute/Adobe_Contribute_4_Win/Adob… and still online, I think, at http://www.soft32.com/download/63-129953-1/Adobe_Contribute_4_Win.exe Starting it fails with err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP71.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Contribute 4\\CoreTypes.dll") not found Wine has a nice implementation of msvcr71.dll, but not the C++-oriented msvcp71.dll, nor is it likely to get one soon. This brings back the question: what's a good place to legally and freely download an application bundled with a full set of msvcp71.dll et al? Ideally something at Microsoft.com and/or something small and suitable for use in winetricks. Any ideas? - Dan

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mono progress on mixed-mode assemblies...
by Dan Kegel 02 Aug '08

02 Aug '08

http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/mono-devel-list/2008-May/027767.html shows that Pál Kornél is now working on supporting apps that use msvcrt. Go Pal go!

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Lots of input messages lingering in server slowing down wine tremendously?
by Alexander Dorofeyev 08 Jul '08

08 Jul '08

Hi. There was a problem found recently in a fan-made mod of Forsaken (game), that certain input combinations were slowing wine very seriously. Holding down a keyboard button and moving mouse was found to be especially devastating to performance (200 fps to 10fps in a matter of 10-20 seconds). With help from people who develop this mod, I was able to isolate it in a very small and simplistic testcase, which shows this same problem. It will be included as attachment. Holding a key and moving mouse over the window steadily increases main loop latency from 10 to 50 (and even 100) in a short time, especially so if quickly clicking both mouse buttons as well. In a game this means going from 100 fps to 20 or 10 just because of input messages. Has to be noted that in the actual game the rate of slowdown seemed at least 2-3 times faster for reasons I don't know, but the testcase still should enough to show the problem. Now, I do realize that what the testcase is doing is bad practice, it's basically refusing to process certain types of messages, and PeekMessage just once during a loop is probably bad as well, but that's what the game was originally doing in its main game loop. They do plan to fix it in the game. Still, there are several concerns about it: 1) No slowdown happens of Windows as far as I can tell. No matter how much I move the mouse holding key and clicking madly, it shows same stable 15-16 ticks latency in the testcase. I don't know what it does, but somehow it handles this situation better than Wine. 2) Can this (broken) way of doing things be exposing some inefficiency in message handling, maybe something that could use optimization? I tried to put debug hacks into queue_hardware_message(), it seems that when slowdown is already VERY bad in Forsaken (10fps), message queue in wine server has about 400 or maybe 600 messages. Is that kind of processing overhead per message inevitable? (This is happening on AMD Athlon(tm) 3200+). Perhaps somebody who knows that part of code well may be interested in looking into performance issues in this case. Because, if 400-600 messages in the queue slow down the application to a crawl, then who knows, perhaps it decreases performance of more well-behaved but input-intensive apps as well, just less drastically (holding one or several keys to move, all the while aiming with mouse and abusing mouse buttons is a common thing in games, so there can be quite a few input messages flooding the server). The reason I decided to post it to wine-devel is because I'm not sure if this kind of thing is expected and unavoidable or a bug that can be fixed, so better to hear some comments first, then a bug entry can be opened if needed. #include <windows.h> HWND window; int PASCAL WinMain(HINSTANCE hInstance, HINSTANCE hPrevInstance, LPSTR lpCmdLine, int nCmdShow) { WNDCLASS wc = {0}; MSG msg; DWORD ticks, ticks2; HHOOK kbd_hook, mouse_hook; wc.lpfnWndProc = &DefWindowProc; wc.lpszClassName = "testwc"; RegisterClass(&wc); window = CreateWindow("testwc", "test", WS_OVERLAPPED | WS_VISIBLE | WS_CAPTION , 0, 0, 640, 480, 0, 0, 0, 0); ticks = GetTickCount(); for (;;) { if (PeekMessage(&msg, NULL, WM_NULL, WM_KEYFIRST, PM_REMOVE)) { if (msg.message == WM_QUIT) { DestroyWindow(window); break; } TranslateMessage(&msg); DispatchMessage(&msg); } //simulated work ticks2 = GetTickCount(); for (;;) { UINT i; volatile int dummy = 1; for (; i < 10000 && dummy; i++) ; if (GetTickCount() - ticks2 >= 10) break; } printf("main loop %u tick latency\n", GetTickCount() - ticks); ticks = GetTickCount(); } }

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Alternate shell?
by Dan Kegel 06 Jul '08

06 Jul '08

For a maximal dogfood experience, I was looking around for a way to use a replacement Windows shell with Wine as my desktop environment instead of gnome or kde. So far, all the ones I've found are either broken, hard to use, or just plain weird. I've been working through the list at http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Microsoft_Windows/… http://www.astonshell.com/aston/ - couldn't figure out how to run it? http://www.emergedesktop.org/ - kind of works, but very minimal, no start menu http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~mosses/rob/liteshell.html - works, but very minimal, no start menu http://purels.org - no help, just exits, saying "ha ha, you didn't configure me". Obviously not meant for me :-) http://www.lighttek.com/talisman.htm - pretty, but no Programs menu?! (Maybe that's there but broken, wine bug?) http://www.sky.franken.de/explorer/download.html - ROS explorer - prebuilt binary there is 3 years out of date, doesn't work too well Anyone have a favorite I should try? - Dan

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