February 2012 - Wine-devel - list.winehq.org

wineapploader in wine64
by Michael Ost 11 Mar '12

11 Mar '12

Hi, Any explanation for why the wineapploader script doesn't use 'wine64' instead of 'wine' in a 64bit Linux with 64bit wine? That's the script that is used to build /usr/bin/wineboot and /usr/bin/regedit, for instance. In Fedora 15 with wine 1.3.24, the upshot is that the 'wineboot' command doesn't work. /usr/lib/wine/wineboot.exe.so is not installed; only /usr/lib64/wineboot.exe.so is. Since the /usr/bin/wineboot is running 'wine' instead of 'wine64' it is looking for the 32bit /usr/lib/wine/wineboot.exe.so. It can't be found since it isn't installed so the loader gives up. > $ wineboot > wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\wineboot.exe" If it used wine64 instead, it would work. There must be a reason that wine64 is starting 32bit apps, but I haven't been able to glean anything from the web. Thanks for any info, -- Michael Ost

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Web based translation tool
by Miroslav Suchý 11 Mar '12

11 Mar '12

Hi, I just read: http://www.winehq.org/news/2012022001 and then http://wiki.winehq.org/Translating especially: > The Wine project would be very interested in making its PO files available on web-based community translations systems such as Pootle or Launchpad. Our hope is that this would make translating Wine even easier and engage new translators. > > The reason why it has not happened yet is that all Wine contributions, including for translations, must be attributable to a specific author and that these tools don't make that possible yet. For more details see the wine-devel discussion here and here. Any contributions that would solve this issue would be very welcome. which refer: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2012-January/093908.html I would like to point you to: https://www.transifex.net/ which can do the tracking. Latest version is probably not what you want, because it just add at the top of the file: # Translators: # Martin Minar <skulliq(a)gmail.com>, 2011. # Milan Kerslager <kerslage(a)linux.cz>, 2002, 2007. # Miloslav Trmac <mitr(a)volny.cz>, 2002. # Miroslav Suchý <msuchy(a)redhat.com>, 2011. msgid "" msgstr "" "Project-Id-Version: Spacewalk\n" "Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n" "POT-Creation-Date: 2011-12-21 13:07+0100\n" "PO-Revision-Date: 2011-12-14 09:21+0000\n" "Last-Translator: Miroslav Suchý <msuchy(a)redhat.com>\n" "Language-Team: Czech (http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora/team/cs/)\n So you had overview of contributors, but you could not tell which one contributor done which string. But version 0.7 (IIRC) sent each contribution immediately to git. Under login (and email) of that contributor. That contributor was "Author" and commiter was some transifex user. So this way you allow git commit access to those contributors directly to git, but since it goes via that web interface, they could commit only to /po/ directory and even only to language, for which they had been granted. You can download it here: http://trac.transifex.org/files/ and setup your own instance. If is sufficient for you only tracking name of contributors, you can use that hosted solution at: https://www.transifex.net/ -- Miroslav Suchy Red Hat Satellite Engineering

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Re: Hungarian translation patch 2
by Francois Gouget 01 Mar '12

01 Mar '12

Thanks. That first patch made quite a big difference already. Hungarian is now in the 90% range :-) I noticed some issues though: -#, fuzzy msgid "&Modify/Remove" msgstr "&Módosítás/Eltávolítás..." You should remove the ellipsis here. msgctxt "Saturation" msgid "&Sat:" -msgstr "" +msgstr "&Telítettség:" msgctxt "Luminance" msgid "&Lum:" -msgstr "" +msgstr "&Fényerő" These two may be too long, hence why they are truncated in English. You can check in winecfg. Go to Desktop Integration, pick an Item, click on Color and click on Define Custom Colors. They should also have a trailing colon. msgctxt "All key" msgid "A" -msgstr "" +msgstr "A" Given that 'All' is translated into 'Mind', this should most likely be an 'M'. -#, fuzzy msgid "Certificate &status:" -msgstr "Tanusítvány beszerzés" +msgstr "Tanusítvány &állapot" -#, fuzzy msgid "&Friendly name:" msgstr "Keresztnév" More missing colons... Also the second one looks like it's supposed to have a keyboard shortcut. msgid "Connection is active.\n" -msgstr "Kapcsolat aktív" +msgstr "Kapcsolat aktív\n" This one should probably have a trailing full stop. You'll find more issues like this on the Wine PO site. http://fgouget.free.fr/wine-po/ Specifically: http://fgouget.free.fr/wine-po/hu-errors.html -- Francois Gouget <fgouget(a)free.fr> http://fgouget.free.fr/ La terre est une bêta...

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Re: [PATCH] winepulse: Add pulse driver, v8
by Joerg-Cyril.Hoehle＠t-systems.com 01 Mar '12

01 Mar '12

Hi, Chris is right about the format. The shared mode mixer ought to return FLOAT(32), and it always appears to return the extensible format as a consequence. For weird reasons, wineoss may return integer formats, but that's certainly going to cause some unexpecting app to crash. >+ assert(oldpad >= This->pad); Wasn't there a discussion some time ago that asserts are bad? Better back out, return INVALIDATED or some such, but don't crash the app just because there's a problem with sound. (I agree that winmm&mmdevapi ought to contain self/consistency tests). It would be nice if you could attach some WINETEST_DEBUG=2 render.log 2>&1 to bugzilla somewhere. There is stuff that do not cause a failure yet diverges from native. +static void pulse_wr_callback(pa_stream *s, size_t bytes, void *userdata) + if (This->event) + SetEvent(This->event); This should be the last thing in the callback. It may well cause your thread to be kicked out by the scheduler. + if (filled_one && This->event) + SetEvent(This->event); Don't the capture tests prove that events get in even when the buffer is full? (please cross-check) >- Align buffer size to a multiple of period size How can you pass the tests with that? It's wrong with both capture (annoyingly IMHO) and playback. I don't have more time now (and know nothing about the pa_* API). Is pa_mainloop_run the thread that dispatches the pulse_xyz_callbacks? I wouldn't mind a winepulse driver in 1.4.0 Regards, Jörg

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bugzilla: show the component, not "comp" and not the assignee
by Joerg-Cyril.Hoehle＠t-systems.com 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Hi, Somehow I discovered that bugzilla can display the component in a search result list. Now I'm using that instead of the useless "assignee" field. Here's part of the URL I'm using: &columnlist=bug_severity%2Cop_sys%2Ccomponent%2Cbug_status%2Cshort_desc& Unfortunately, the column named "Comp" only holds 8 characters, causing ugly names like: directx- : you don't know which one out of ten directx-YZ winmm&mc : one missing letter looks rather stupid It would be nice if some bugzilla admin would enlarge that column BTW, I recently suggested replacing the mostly useless "assignee" column in the default search result list by the component. No answer. What do you think? Thank you, Jörg Höhle

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Debugging WINE 1.3.24 with GDB
by louis＠museresearch.com 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Hi All, I've been attempting to debug a WINElib application on Fedora 15 (WINE 1.3.24) and not having much success. Winedbg works, but using gdb I'm not able to see symbols or multiple threads. In Fedora 8, running GDB on wine-pthreads (and not wine!) used to work under 1.1.7. However, under 1.3.24 there's no wine-pthreads. I've also tried attaching to various threads after the program was running with little success. I'm also not having any success using "winedbg --gdb"-- the same thing happens there as if I'd run it using just gdb (strange). The big picture is that I'd like to get an IDE such as QtCreator or KDevelop to work debugging a WINE application. Any way that is possible would be a good solution for me; it doesn't necessarily have to be through GDB if there's another way. Thanks for your help in advance! -Louis

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Re: po: Spanish translation update for cmd.rc (almost complete)
by Eduardo García 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Sorry, attached the wrong patch, this one is the correct one. With regards. Eduardo. El 02/29/12 21:00, Eduardo García escribió: > This one was fun to do as I fouund a couple of "my hovercraft is full > of eels" phrases. > > With regards. > > Eduardo. > > > > >

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Re: po: Spanish translation update for cmd.rc (almost complete)
by Eduardo García 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Sorry, attached the wrong patch, this one is the correct. With regards. Eduardo. El 02/29/12 21:00, Eduardo García escribió: > This one was fun to do as I fouund a couple of "my hovercraft is full > of eels" phrases. > > > > > > >

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Re: Fix references to the LGPL
by Alexandre Julliard 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Francois Gouget <fgouget(a)free.fr> writes: > So the problem is that start.rc (it's always about start) > contains slightly incorrect references to the LGPL in its license > message (no less): I would say we should get rid of that license message. No other Wine command-line app does this, and we have the license in the about box already for graphical apps. This would also avoid the need for a different usage message in cmd. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org

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Major mmdevapi and winmm audio bugs
by Joerg-Cyril.Hoehle＠t-systems.com 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Hi, instead of Wine Weekly News (WWN, any taker?) you get monthly audio news. The surprising thing is: it looks like most audio bugs remaining in bugzilla are from the pre-mmdevapi era and have not been updated since mid-2011. - Using devices other than "default" (dmix or pulse): #29294 no sound with ALSA loopback -- are they duplicates of each other #28781 loopback to Jack -- or is one about DSound only? We have are several issues about crackling sound: - One definitely is caused by CreateTimerQueue which is not regular enough or does not deliver 10ms, but 12ms callbacks. This is in #28723 which includes a work-around in comment #130 That may affect the Solaris machine on test.winehq.org too. - One is caused by a mmdevapi design error: the audio buffer we use is simply too small, and Linux can't bear a regular 10ms rate. Things got worse since the introduction of the Completely Fair Scheduler. It can't even guarantee a regular 50ms one. There's a need for a much larger buffer. That's why wine < 1.3.25 is giving steadier sound. #29531 may be caused by this. - Mac OS X 10.5.8 crackles constantly with dlls/mmdevapi/tests/render I'd like somebody with 10.6 or .7 to perform the interactive test. rm -f render.ok; WINETEST_INTERACTIVE=1 make render.ok - Lastly, there's PulseAudio #28856 among others I don't understand why I couldn't find bugs in PA's bugzilla, so I wrote some: - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46296 About the need to restart the PA server from time to time - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46297 PA's huge buffering causes issues with winmm - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46412 How to obtain PA's typical 44100 rate? Feel free to contribute if you know apps outside Wine with similar issues. Surprisingly, users have reported improvements in the latest wine-1.4rcX even when nothing changed, but also mentioned updates on the PA and alsa_plugins side. Perhaps that improved the situation. I was pleased to see Wine's testsuite help find bugs in Pulse: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/pulseaudio-discuss/2012-February/0128… There are issues not always associated with a bug entry: - #29472 comment #12 DSound GetDevicePosition is not how it should be - Check OSS4 with and without vmix #28056 #28790 - winmm handling huge latency (such as PA's) & when to send notifications - Issues with microphone capture? - DSound mixing and buffer sizes & padding vs. GetPosition - Deal with intermittent errors from ALSA etc. in mmdevapi, winmm and dsound - Device enumeration and PA preventing access to the underlying device Is this known to cause no sound in an app (or only in our wave tests?) - various missing trailing sound with DSound #21209 - #29369 strange issue involving PA and perhaps messaging - misc. losing sound: #28319 #25164 #28770 - lead-out needed with dmix - Use lock-less design to reduce contention, cf. #29531, comment #7 - multi-channel, 5:1 etc. in mmdevapi and DSound - Bugs in the quartz or winegstreamer area that I don't have on my radar Of course there are more bugs than this. Regards, Jörg Höhle

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