Hi, I've been tinkering for a week or so and D3d9 is almost their (well except for shaders) Along with Pirates I can now run Axis and Alies and Myst4 is looking promising Most of the demos from here http://www.codesampler.com/dx9src.htm Swap Chains only runs in one window, Shadow Volume is still a very flaky and some of the textures have strange offsets, but everything runs. Apart from the slightly bad texture offsets wine should be able to run more DirectX 9 applications than Cedega if only I could get them installed! I'm going to do some more debugging, cleaning up and post some screenshots on a web site and start sending patches against head (in smaller chunks that the last lot!) ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com