mike, hi, thank you for responding. your message contains misunderstandings that i do not at present have time (actually money) to correct. in brief: 1) yes FreeDCE, as wez has kindly pointed out and added, provides code that results wire-compatibility with MSRPC, has most of the compiler-compatibility features required with MIDL, 2) i am aware of your dialog with the samba team, and i am aware that their focus and interest is in file, print and login services - wire-compatibility with NT 3.5 up to 5.0 (aka windows 2000). 3) yes i know FreeDCE doesn't contain a full DCOM implementation, and wez has responded as to why this is the case. as i said i am not in a position to respond to and give an accurate answer to your statements at this time. l. -- -- <a href="http://lkcl.net">http://lkcl.net</a> --