Ubuntu likely to abandon HAL next cycle -- is this workable?
Consensus here seems to be to try and remove HAL from the archive. Wine still uses it, so this means we'll either need to lobby for keeping HAL or to migrate to udisks. Does udisks meet our needs? Will it work for a future USB driver? Is someone working on the migration? Thanks, Scott Ritchie
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Scott Ritchie <scott(a)open-vote.org> wrote:
Consensus here seems to be to try and remove HAL from the archive.
Wine still uses it, so this means we'll either need to lobby for keeping HAL or to migrate to udisks. Does udisks meet our needs? Will it work for a future USB driver? Is someone working on the migration?
Thanks, Scott Ritchie
Udisks has regressed from the portability of HAL to being Linux-only, what are we going to do for BSDs/Solaris/others? Damjan Jovanovic
Damjan Jovanovic <damjan.jov(a)gmail.com> writes:
Udisks has regressed from the portability of HAL to being Linux-only, what are we going to do for BSDs/Solaris/others?
Of course even if we add udisks we'll keep the HAL support around. It's necessary for backwards compatibility, which is something we take seriously, unlike Ubuntu. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org
On 05/12/2011 07:02 PM, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Damjan Jovanovic <damjan.jov(a)gmail.com> writes:
Udisks has regressed from the portability of HAL to being Linux-only, what are we going to do for BSDs/Solaris/others?
Of course even if we add udisks we'll keep the HAL support around. It's necessary for backwards compatibility, which is something we take seriously, unlike Ubuntu.
The distro position is that HAL has no upstream, is unmaintained, and conflicts with udisks/upower to the point where stuff starts breaking (eg, the battery monitor gets confused and reports you have 5% and 6 hours left)
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:48:23AM +0200, Scott Ritchie wrote:
On 05/12/2011 07:02 PM, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Damjan Jovanovic <damjan.jov(a)gmail.com> writes:
Udisks has regressed from the portability of HAL to being Linux-only, what are we going to do for BSDs/Solaris/others?
Of course even if we add udisks we'll keep the HAL support around. It's necessary for backwards compatibility, which is something we take seriously, unlike Ubuntu.
The distro position is that HAL has no upstream, is unmaintained, and conflicts with udisks/upower to the point where stuff starts breaking (eg, the battery monitor gets confused and reports you have 5% and 6 hours left)
The truth is more: - HAL upstream is the same as udisk upstream - HAL was abandoned in favour of udisk. ciao, Marcus
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 08:33:49AM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:48:23AM +0200, Scott Ritchie wrote:
On 05/12/2011 07:02 PM, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Damjan Jovanovic <damjan.jov(a)gmail.com> writes:
Udisks has regressed from the portability of HAL to being Linux-only, what are we going to do for BSDs/Solaris/others?
Of course even if we add udisks we'll keep the HAL support around. It's necessary for backwards compatibility, which is something we take seriously, unlike Ubuntu.
The distro position is that HAL has no upstream, is unmaintained, and conflicts with udisks/upower to the point where stuff starts breaking (eg, the battery monitor gets confused and reports you have 5% and 6 hours left)
The truth is more:
- HAL upstream is the same as udisk upstream - HAL was abandoned in favour of udisk.
But yes, it is not in the openSUSE default anymore... So it is time to replace . Ciao, Marcus
Am Donnerstag, den 12.05.2011, 12:28 +0200 schrieb Scott Ritchie:
Consensus here seems to be to try and remove HAL from the archive.
Wine still uses it, so this means we'll either need to lobby for keeping HAL or to migrate to udisks.
I expect for Wine: udisk (current linux) | hal (for older linux and other os) http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21713 -- By by ... Detlef
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