The future of Wine-staging
If you haven't seen the sad news yet: https://wine-staging.com/news/2018-02-17-future-wine-staging.html We'll need to discuss how to move forward, but first I want to take the opportunity to thank Sebastian and Michael for their amazing work and dedication over the years. It was indeed a major effort, and they've done an incredible job of it. Wine-staging has done a lot to move Wine forward and make things exciting again, and I hope we can keep that momentum going (we may have to cut down on the number of patches though, so that the workload remains manageable for mere mortals...) Thank you guys! -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org
On 2018-02-17 15:50+0100 Alexandre Julliard wrote:
If you haven't seen the sad news yet:
https://wine-staging.com/news/2018-02-17-future-wine-staging.html
We'll need to discuss how to move forward, but first I want to take the opportunity to thank Sebastian and Michael for their amazing work and dedication over the years. It was indeed a major effort, and they've done an incredible job of it.
Wine-staging has done a lot to move Wine forward and make things exciting again, and I hope we can keep that momentum going (we may have to cut down on the number of patches though, so that the workload remains manageable for mere mortals...)
Thank you guys!
My thanks as a Wine user to Sebastian and Michael as well. @Alexandre: One of the extraordinarily useful services they provided was a Debian repository containing the latest (updated each two weeks) wine development and wine-staging releases for a variety of different Debian versions (Wheezy, Jessie, Stretch, Buster, and Sid). I haven't looked at their equivalent Fedora, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and macOS repositories (see <https://wine-staging.com/installation.html>) but I assume they have similar large scope. If Wine does not already provide distribution repository services of such large scope for wine development releases now, could you do so? It just makes keeping up with the Wine cutting edge so much easier for Linux and Mac OS X users. Alan __________________________ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting software package (plplot.sf.net); the libLASi project (unifont.org/lasi); the Loads of Linux Links project (loll.sf.net); and the Linux Brochure Project (lbproject.sf.net). __________________________ Linux-powered Science __________________________
I am not sure if I understand the question correctly, but the Wine development and stable builds are available at http://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/. They are built by Sebastian and me. If you look closely at the repository url in the installation instructions from the Wine Staging website, you will also see they point to dl.winehq.org. We wrote our own virtual machine based build system for this purpose (e.g. https://dev.wine-staging.com/builder/group/408/ - Wine 3.2 release), which is largely automated. It requires only little attention and we therefore continue to offer this service. For the users of the development and stable branch nothing will change. Regards, Michael Am 17.02.2018 um 21:21 schrieb Alan W. Irwin:
On 2018-02-17 15:50+0100 Alexandre Julliard wrote:
If you haven't seen the sad news yet:
https://wine-staging.com/news/2018-02-17-future-wine-staging.html
We'll need to discuss how to move forward, but first I want to take the opportunity to thank Sebastian and Michael for their amazing work and dedication over the years. It was indeed a major effort, and they've done an incredible job of it.
Wine-staging has done a lot to move Wine forward and make things exciting again, and I hope we can keep that momentum going (we may have to cut down on the number of patches though, so that the workload remains manageable for mere mortals...)
Thank you guys!
My thanks as a Wine user to Sebastian and Michael as well.
@Alexandre:
One of the extraordinarily useful services they provided was a Debian repository containing the latest (updated each two weeks) wine development and wine-staging releases for a variety of different Debian versions (Wheezy, Jessie, Stretch, Buster, and Sid). I haven't looked at their equivalent Fedora, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and macOS repositories (see <https://wine-staging.com/installation.html>) but I assume they have similar large scope.
If Wine does not already provide distribution repository services of such large scope for wine development releases now, could you do so? It just makes keeping up with the Wine cutting edge so much easier for Linux and Mac OS X users.
Alan __________________________ Alan W. Irwin
Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca).
Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting software package (plplot.sf.net); the libLASi project (unifont.org/lasi); the Loads of Linux Links project (loll.sf.net); and the Linux Brochure Project (lbproject.sf.net). __________________________
Linux-powered Science __________________________
On 2018-02-17 22:07+0100 Michael Müller wrote:
I am not sure if I understand the question correctly, but the Wine development and stable builds are available at http://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/. They are built by Sebastian and me. If you look closely at the repository url in the installation instructions from the Wine Staging website, you will also see they point to dl.winehq.org.
We wrote our own virtual machine based build system for this purpose (e.g. https://dev.wine-staging.com/builder/group/408/ - Wine 3.2 release), which is largely automated. It requires only little attention and we therefore continue to offer this service. For the users of the development and stable branch nothing will change.
My question (which you understood correctly) was based on <https://wine-staging.com/installation.html>. Thanks for pointing me to the equivalent Wine site <http://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/>, and I am glad to hear you and Sebastian are continuing to maintain this important Wine service. Alan
Am 17.02.2018 um 21:21 schrieb Alan W. Irwin: [...]
One of the extraordinarily useful services they provided was a Debian repository containing the latest (updated each two weeks) wine development and wine-staging releases for a variety of different Debian versions (Wheezy, Jessie, Stretch, Buster, and Sid). I haven't looked at their equivalent Fedora, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and macOS repositories (see <https://wine-staging.com/installation.html>) but I assume they have similar large scope.
If Wine does not already provide distribution repository services of such large scope for wine development releases now, could you do so? It just makes keeping up with the Wine cutting edge so much easier for Linux and Mac OS X users.
Alan __________________________ Alan W. Irwin
Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca).
Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting software package (plplot.sf.net); the libLASi project (unifont.org/lasi); the Loads of Linux Links project (loll.sf.net); and the Linux Brochure Project (lbproject.sf.net). __________________________
Linux-powered Science __________________________
__________________________ Alan W. Irwin Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca). Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting software package (plplot.sf.net); the libLASi project (unifont.org/lasi); the Loads of Linux Links project (loll.sf.net); and the Linux Brochure Project (lbproject.sf.net). __________________________ Linux-powered Science __________________________
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 12:21:18 -0800 (PST) "Alan W. Irwin" <irwin(a)beluga.phys.uvic.ca> wrote:
If Wine does not already provide distribution repository services of such large scope for wine development releases now, could you do so?
https://wiki.winehq.org/Download WineHQ has been providing binary packages for Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, Mageia, and macOS for all three branches for over two years. Michael Müller is the WineHQ packaging maintainer, and according to his post, will continue in that role for the development and stable branches. -- Rosanne DiMesio dimesio(a)earthlink.net
2018-02-17 7:50 GMT-07:00 Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.org>:
We'll need to discuss how to move forward, but first I want to take the opportunity to thank Sebastian and Michael for their amazing work and dedication over the years. It was indeed a major effort, and they've done an incredible job of it.
I also want to say thanks to Sebastian and Michael: Without your mentoring in 2014, I would have stopped trying to contribute to Wine. I hope that, in one way or another, you continue to be a part of the Wine community. -Alex
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 08:56:30PM -0700, Alex Henrie wrote:
2018-02-17 7:50 GMT-07:00 Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.org>:
We'll need to discuss how to move forward, but first I want to take the opportunity to thank Sebastian and Michael for their amazing work and dedication over the years. It was indeed a major effort, and they've done an incredible job of it.
I also want to say thanks to Sebastian and Michael: Without your mentoring in 2014, I would have stopped trying to contribute to Wine. I hope that, in one way or another, you continue to be a part of the Wine community.
Also saying thanks for the tremendous effort, wine-staging has been a great resource for useful patches and I'd love to see it continue in some form. Andrew
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