There already is an app that can do the menus, the ros explorer. If it was compiled as a winelib app, it would solve the menu problem, at least for who likes desktop mode (And the ros explorer makes wine look like a "real" emulator)
On Monday 13 October 2003 04:56 pm, Ivan Leo Murray-Smith wrote:
There already is an app that can do the menus, the ros explorer. If it was compiled as a winelib app, it would solve the menu problem, at least for who likes desktop mode (And the ros explorer makes wine look like a "real" emulator)
Yes but I think what Robert van Herk wants is something integrated with the window manager. For example his recent post suggests a picture like [wine .exe server] <--> [native linux client] <--> [kde / gnome / twm] The real challenge would presumably be on the linux client side, and obviously the data transport provides some exciting open questions. There is a certain logic to this arrangement imo... who wants some wacky "explorer.exe" if they are simply thumbing through the kde or gnome menus? Not that I disapprove of ros explorer, quite the contrary! ros explorer approximates the behavior of windows explorer, which wine needs for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it's an integral part of the OS... whereas I think Robert van Herk means to create a bridge or portal allowing native frameworks like gnome to integrate the wine menus into their own... Correct me if I have this all wrong of course :P But if that's the case then it's a different animal from ros explorer, and imo a worthwhile effort. -- gmt "The vice I am talking about is Pride or Self-Conceit: and the virtue opposite to it, in Christian morals, is called Humility. ... According to Christian teachers, the essential vice, the utmost evil, is Pride. Unchastity, greed, drunkenness, and all that, are mere flea-bites in comparison: it was through Pride that the devil became the devil: Pride leads to every other vice: it is the complete anti-God state of mind." --C. S. Lewis
--- "Gregory M. Turner" <gmturner007(a)ameritech.net> wrote:
There is a certain logic to this arrangement imo... who wants some wacky "explorer.exe" if they are simply thumbing through the kde or gnome menus? Not that I disapprove of ros explorer, quite the contrary! ros explorer approximates the behavior of windows explorer, which wine needs for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it's an integral part of the OS... whereas I think Robert van Herk means to create a bridge or portal allowing native frameworks like gnome to integrate the wine menus into their own...
Your right Greg. I for one want to be able to run KDE or GNOME and still have my WINE applications integrate cleanly. We do need some sort of a bridge on the Unix side for the Window manager. Any such interface that is developed needs to be a external application that sits in the middle of WINE and the WM. Any such application need to use the interfaces provided by shell32 and the shell namespace. I am thinking like SGI file access notification program they wrote that is used in natulas. libFAM isnt it? Also this application cant rob CodeWeavers of too much money. =)
Correct me if I have this all wrong of course :P But if that's the case then it's a different animal from ros explorer, and imo a worthwhile effort.
Right. The ReactOS explorer is a very limited purpose application. If I was going to be running nothing but Windows applications I could see how it might be of use to me under Linux. I dont know if the "Desktop" option still exists in WINE but it would be nice to have ros-explorer when running WINE in desktop mode under Linux. The I could just run all of my Win32 apps from one place. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
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