Trying to install ChurchWindows, but it requires IE4?
My church is setting up a technology committee to decide what to do in the face of recent (possibly virus-related) problems they've been having. Naturally, Linux and Wine come to mind. The one app they run that I know of no Linux equivalent for is called ChurchWindows (from http://churchwindows.com, natch). A freely downloadable demo is available at their web site. Sadly, when I try to install it with 20030911, I get the error "Certain Microsoft files can only be provided by installing Internet Explorer version 4.01 Service Pack 2 or later. It appears that your computer does not curently have this version (or later) installed. Please install a newer version of Internet Explorer before running this install." I then tried --debugmsg +reg to see what it was sensing, but then the familiar old race condition reared its ugly head: "Error Number: 0x80040706 Description: Object reference not set Setup will now terminate" Can someone with more Wine juju than me have a look at http://209.190.80.19/trial/CW2003demo.exe and see how far off Wine is from supporting it? Thanks! - Dan
Dan Kegel wrote:
My church is setting up a technology committee to decide what to do in the face of recent (possibly virus-related) problems they've been having. Naturally, Linux and Wine come to mind. The one app they run that I know of no Linux equivalent for is called ChurchWindows (from http://churchwindows.com, natch). A freely downloadable demo is available at their web site.
Sadly, when I try to install it with 20030911, I get the error
"Certain Microsoft files can only be provided by installing Internet Explorer version 4.01 Service Pack 2 or later. It appears that your computer does not curently have this version (or later) installed. Please install a newer version of Internet Explorer before running this install."
I then tried --debugmsg +reg to see what it was sensing, but then the familiar old race condition reared its ugly head: "Error Number: 0x80040706 Description: Object reference not set Setup will now terminate"
Can someone with more Wine juju than me have a look at http://209.190.80.19/trial/CW2003demo.exe and see how far off Wine is from supporting it?
Thanks! - Dan
Why not just install IE, then? Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 08:22, Dan Kegel wrote:
I then tried --debugmsg +reg to see what it was sensing, but then the familiar old race condition reared its ugly head: "Error Number: 0x80040706 Description: Object reference not set Setup will now terminate"
This is normally generated by InstallShield... why do you say it's a race condition? I've been wanting to investigate that error for a while, in fact I'm going to poke an installshield Marcus sent me this afternoon.
Can someone with more Wine juju than me have a look at http://209.190.80.19/trial/CW2003demo.exe and see how far off Wine is from supporting it?
Yikes! It's 20mb! That's going to take most of the day to download :(
Mike Hearn wrote:
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 08:22, Dan Kegel wrote:
I then tried --debugmsg +reg to see what it was sensing, but then the familiar old race condition reared its ugly head: "Error Number: 0x80040706 Description: Object reference not set Setup will now terminate"
This is normally generated by InstallShield... why do you say it's a race condition?
Because it comes and goes depending on how much --debugmsg logging I select. Could be some other kind of bug, too, I just jumped to a conclusion.
I've been wanting to investigate that error for a while, in fact I'm going to poke an installshield Marcus sent me this afternoon.
Thanks! It has happened for most real things I've tried to install, off and on, for the last year.
Can someone with more Wine juju than me have a look at http://209.190.80.19/trial/CW2003demo.exe and see how far off Wine is from supporting it?
Yikes! It's 20mb! That's going to take most of the day to download :(
No rush! The bug's been around for ages, it can wait a day to be fixed :-) - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045
I then tried --debugmsg +reg to see what it was sensing, but then the familiar old race condition reared its ugly head: "Error Number: 0x80040706 Description: Object reference not set Setup will now terminate"
This is normally generated by InstallShield... why do you say it's a race condition?
Because it comes and goes depending on how much --debugmsg logging I select. Could be some other kind of bug, too, I just jumped to a conclusion.
I had this problem with InstallShield, but it seems to work if you run it with -dll ole32,oleaut32,rpcrt4=n -- Rok Mandeljc <rok.mandeljc(a)gimb.org> "Hold your position! Leave doubt for the dying!" -- Tahngarth of the Weatherlight
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 19:21, Rok Mandeljc wrote:
I had this problem with InstallShield, but it seems to work if you run it with -dll ole32,oleaut32,rpcrt4=n
Well yes, it's a bug in our OLE implementation. The question is, where? BTW, are you registered on a keyserver anywhere? There's not much point signing email if nobody knows where your key is. I'd recommend search.keyserver.net, that's the one I used anyway... thanks -mike
BTW, are you registered on a keyserver anywhere? There's not much point signing email if nobody knows where your key is. I'd recommend search.keyserver.net, that's the one I used anyway... it's on wwwkeys.pgp.net (i used evolution manual to set things up...) -- Rok Mandeljc <rok.mandeljc(a)gimb.org>
"Hold your position! Leave doubt for the dying!" -- Tahngarth of the Weatherlight
Hi Dan, I already have IE installed, so I didn't get the error you originally did. I hacked window.c to default to managed mode to get around X protocol errors, and that seemed to work OK, but unfortunately heap arena corruption later in the install caused it to deadlock. So, I think we're some way off supporting this installer. I'm going put some hours into this heap problem, see if I can isolate where it's being trashed. By the time it deadlocks the program *has* copied, it's doing final setup (registering some stuff i think), so it might run anyway. For the IE issue your best bet is simply to install IE, or if you can't get that to take, copy across and register the DLLs manually. thanks -mike
Mike Hearn wrote:
I already have IE installed, so I didn't get the error you originally did. I hacked window.c to default to managed mode to get around X protocol errors, and that seemed to work OK, but unfortunately heap arena corruption later in the install caused it to deadlock. So, I think we're some way off supporting this installer.
I'm going put some hours into this heap problem, see if I can isolate where it's being trashed. By the time it deadlocks the program *has* copied, it's doing final setup (registering some stuff i think), so it might run anyway.
Thanks for looking into it. This sounds like a job for valgrind; have you tried running wine under valgrind 1.9.6-wine before?
For the IE issue your best bet is simply to install IE, or if you can't get that to take, copy across and register the DLLs manually.
OK, I'll try installing IE. (Dumb question: what's the best way to find a copy of IE 4.0.1 sp2 or later to install?) - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 22:45, Dan Kegel wrote:
Thanks for looking into it. This sounds like a job for valgrind; have you tried running wine under valgrind 1.9.6-wine before?
No. I've used valgrind before, but not the wine version.
OK, I'll try installing IE. (Dumb question: what's the best way to find a copy of IE 4.0.1 sp2 or later to install?)
microsoft.com/ie :)
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