wine compatible logo needed

[Metody Stefanov]

Long story short - I've developed a small piece of software for the local govt, and it appears to work out-of-the-box under wine (openSuse 11.1). 
Since now I'm writing the user/admin manuals (heh, a nice way to discover some bugs BTW - "If you click this, this happens... oh wait, last time it did, now it doesn't"), I was wondering if there is an official "100% wine compatible" logo - you know, something like the "Designed for Windows" that most hardware manifacturers put on their boxes. Or any other standartized method of mentioning the fact that the software works under wine out of the box.

Cheers,
M. Stefanov.

[Stephen Gentle]

> Long story short - I've developed a small piece of software for the 
> local govt, and it appears to work out-of-the-box under wine (openSuse 
> 11.1).
> Since now I'm writing the user/admin manuals (heh, a nice way to 
> discover some bugs BTW - "If you click this, this happens... oh wait, 
> last time it did, now it doesn't"), I was wondering if there is an 
> official "100% wine compatible" logo - you know, something like the 
> "Designed for Windows" that most hardware manifacturers put on their 
> boxes. Or any other standartized method of mentioning the fact that 
> the software works under wine out of the box.

Well, here's an idea for one (attached). Just five minutes playing in 
Photoshop (running in Wine, of course), but it's a start.

Stephen Gentle

[André Hentschel]

Stephen Gentle schrieb:
> Well, here's an idea for one (attached). Just five minutes playing in 
> Photoshop (running in Wine, of course), but it's a start.
>
> Stephen Gentle

Good work, but people who dont know wine maybe think they can use the Software drunken :)

What about an Wiki-Page like "Wine-Art" for things like that???

[Stefan Dösinger]

Am Tuesday 23 June 2009 17:03:56 schrieb André Hentschel:
> Stephen Gentle schrieb:
> > Well, here's an idea for one (attached). Just five minutes playing in
> > Photoshop (running in Wine, of course), but it's a start.
> > One problem of such a logo is that Wine changes constantly, and apps may break 
> > any time. So if we wanted to make such a logo official, that would be a 
> > two-party contract

*) The app developer tests his app with wine
*) The Wine community tests this app before releasing a new Wine release.

Currently we cannot do our part due to lack of resources, especially with the 
bi-weekly snapshots. We have a very small set of supported apps in the stable 
releases, but we don't know how far we can grow this as-is.

So any "works with Wine logo" would need some registration page on 
www.winehq.org somewhere, and we'd probably require a fairly extensive set of 
automated tests, for example some cxtest scripts(www.cxtest.org) that 
automatically install the app and test if all functionalities work. If the 
developer of the app has already an automated test suite(including GUI 
tests), I guess it would be fairly simple to add a cxtest script on top of it 
that just runs the testsuite.

So such a logo could also be used to grow the set of cxtest tests :-)

[André Hentschel]

Stefan Dösinger schrieb:
> Am Tuesday 23 June 2009 17:03:56 schrieb André Hentschel:
> > Stephen Gentle schrieb:
> > > Well, here's an idea for one (attached). Just five minutes playing in
> > > Photoshop (running in Wine, of course), but it's a start.
> > > One problem of such a logo is that Wine changes constantly, and apps may break 
> > > any time. So if we wanted to make such a logo official, that would be a 
> > > two-party contract
>
> *) The app developer tests his app with wine
> *) The Wine community tests this app before releasing a new Wine release.
>
> Currently we cannot do our part due to lack of resources, especially with the 
> bi-weekly snapshots. We have a very small set of supported apps in the stable 
> releases, but we don't know how far we can grow this as-is.
>
> So any "works with Wine logo" would need some registration page on 
> www.winehq.org somewhere, and we'd probably require a fairly extensive set of 
> automated tests, for example some cxtest scripts(www.cxtest.org) that 
> automatically install the app and test if all functionalities work. If the 
> developer of the app has already an automated test suite(including GUI 
> tests), I guess it would be fairly simple to add a cxtest script on top of it 
> that just runs the testsuite.
>
> So such a logo could also be used to grow the set of cxtest tests :-)

I think this will be perfect for Austin's Appinstall when its ready.

[Austin English]

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:36 AM, André Hentschel<nerv(a)dawncrow.de> wrote:
> Stefan Dösinger schrieb:
> > Am Tuesday 23 June 2009 17:03:56 schrieb André Hentschel:
> > > Stephen Gentle schrieb:
> > > > Well, here's an idea for one (attached). Just five minutes playing in
> > > > Photoshop (running in Wine, of course), but it's a start.
> >
> > One problem of such a logo is that Wine changes constantly, and apps may
> > break any time. So if we wanted to make such a logo official, that would be
> > a two-party contract
> >
> > *) The app developer tests his app with wine
> > *) The Wine community tests this app before releasing a new Wine release.
> >
> > Currently we cannot do our part due to lack of resources, especially with
> > the bi-weekly snapshots. We have a very small set of supported apps in the
> > stable releases, but we don't know how far we can grow this as-is.
> >
> > So any "works with Wine logo" would need some registration page on
> > www.winehq.org somewhere, and we'd probably require a fairly extensive set
> > of automated tests, for example some cxtest scripts(www.cxtest.org) that
> > automatically install the app and test if all functionalities work. If the
> > developer of the app has already an automated test suite(including GUI
> > tests), I guess it would be fairly simple to add a cxtest script on top of
> > it that just runs the testsuite.
> >
> > So such a logo could also be used to grow the set of cxtest tests :-)
>
> I think this will be perfect for Austin's Appinstall when its ready.

A beta is ;-). The framework is in place, tests are there, and they
run. I'm working on adding more tests and extending the helper
functions. AutoHotKey wasn't really designed for running a test suite,
but with a little shell scripting and helper function glue, it works
really well.

If there's a public download available, then it's easy to do.

-- 
-Austin

[Gert van den Berg]

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 18:33, Stefan Dösinger<stefandoesinger(a)gmx.at> wrote:
> One problem of such a logo is that Wine changes constantly, and apps may break
> any time. So if we wanted to make such a logo official, that would be a
> two-party contract
>
> *) The app developer tests his app with wine
> *) The Wine community tests this app before releasing a new Wine release.
>
> Currently we cannot do our part due to lack of resources, especially with the
> bi-weekly snapshots. We have a very small set of supported apps in the stable
> releases, but we don't know how far we can grow this as-is.

I thought that's what "stable" releases are for...

A "Works with Wine 1.0" logo might be a lot easier. (I'm sure quite a
few Windows XP-logoed apps broke on Vista) Since quite a few
distributions include only the "stable" version anyway, it is probably
a lot easier for users.

Gert