Linking to a Mac OS X build of Wine from winehq.org/download ?
Say, http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ seems to be a popular source of nearly up to date wine builds for the mac. How about we link to it from http://winehq.org/download/ ? Furthermore, are his packages good enough to support? If so, how 'bout we ask him to add links to bugzilla and the appdb from his page?
Say, http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ seems to be a popular source of nearly up to date wine builds for the mac. How about we link to it from http://winehq.org/download/ ?
Furthermore, are his packages good enough to support? If so, how 'bout we ask him to add links to bugzilla and the appdb from his page?
Most importantly we need to get rid of the Darwine name. It causes a lot of unneeded confusion. Roderick -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Roderick Colenbrander <thunderbird2k(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Say, http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ seems to be a popular source of nearly up to date wine builds for the mac. How about we link to it from http://winehq.org/download/ ?
Furthermore, are his packages good enough to support? If so, how 'bout we ask him to add links to bugzilla and the appdb from his page?
Most importantly we need to get rid of the Darwine name. It causes a lot of unneeded confusion.
Yes, I would like to keep Darwine as the name of the old powerpc project that combined an x86 emulator and wine. Can we convince Mike and Zach to switch names to just plain Wine? - Dan
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Roderick Colenbrander <thunderbird2k(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Say, http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ seems to be a popular source of nearly up to date wine builds for the mac. How about we link to it from http://winehq.org/download/ ?
Furthermore, are his packages good enough to support? If so, how 'bout we ask him to add links to bugzilla and the appdb from his page?
Most importantly we need to get rid of the Darwine name. It causes a lot of unneeded confusion.
Yes, I would like to keep Darwine as the name of the old powerpc project that combined an x86 emulator and wine.
Can we convince Mike and Zach to switch names to just plain Wine?
As one who just spent several days trying to figure this stuff out and still isn't quite sure he got it right, I'd like to add "pretty please?" Cheers, -n8 -- Nathan Gray http://www.n8gray.org/
Nathaniel Gray wrote:
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Roderick Colenbrander <thunderbird2k(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Say, http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ seems to be a popular source of nearly up to date wine builds for the mac. How about we link to it from http://winehq.org/download/ ?
Furthermore, are his packages good enough to support? If so, how 'bout we ask him to add links to bugzilla and the appdb from his page?
Most importantly we need to get rid of the Darwine name. It causes a lot of unneeded confusion.
Yes, I would like to keep Darwine as the name of the old powerpc project that combined an x86 emulator and wine.
Can we convince Mike and Zach to switch names to just plain Wine?
As one who just spent several days trying to figure this stuff out and still isn't quite sure he got it right, I'd like to add "pretty please?"
I would like to see something like the following (and it follows the OpenOffice.org strategy for releases): Wine-<version>-<platform>-<CPU>-<installer>.<compression-type> So Wine for the Mac Intel would appear like this: Wine-1.1.9-MacOSX-Intel-DragnDrop.dmg Where Wine for a X86 for Ubuntu 8.1 would appear like this for an x86: Wine-1.1.9-Ubuntu8.10-x86-apt.tar.gz (assuming that the release was in tar.gz.) What do the rest of you think? James McKenzie
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:21 PM, James McKenzie <jjmckenzie51(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
I would like to see something like the following (and it follows the OpenOffice.org strategy for releases):
Wine-<version>-<platform>-<CPU>-<installer>.<compression-type>
So Wine for the Mac Intel would appear like this:
Wine-1.1.9-MacOSX-Intel-DragnDrop.dmg
Where Wine for a X86 for Ubuntu 8.1 would appear like this for an x86:
Wine-1.1.9-Ubuntu8.10-x86-apt.tar.gz (assuming that the release was in tar.gz.)
It might make sense for .tar.gz files, but it doesn't make too much sense for .deb and .rpm files, which already have names which are dictated to some extent by the repository they're in. Also, ideally, I'd rather see somewhat less distro-specific builds of Wine anyway. Not sure how practical that is, though, until we can build against LSB.
Yes, I would like to keep Darwine as the name of the old powerpc project that combined an x86 emulator and wine.
Can we convince Mike and Zach to switch names to just plain Wine?
I'd have no problems switching over to just using Wine instead of Darwine. Also, maybe Jim White or someone else that actually developed Darwine could comment? All I do is package it.. and even the, I haven't really had time to do so recently. FWIW, I'm building 1.1.11 right now though.
-Zach
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Zach Drayer <zach(a)drayer.name> wrote:
Can we convince Mike and Zach to switch names to just plain Wine?
I'd have no problems switching over to just using Wine instead of Darwine. Also, maybe Jim White or someone else that actually developed Darwine could comment? All I do is package it.. and even the, I haven't really had time to do so recently. FWIW, I'm building 1.1.11 right now though.
I asked Jim White (who's an old friend of mine from early LAJUG days) whether I was right to assume that Darwine referred to the original powerpc project with an x86 emulator hooked up to it, and whether Wine for Mac OS X x86 should just be called Wine, and he said:
Yes, of course. Darwine is quite quiescent, but I think it did some real good in getting the Wine port to Mac started...
BTW, Zach, do you apply any patches as you package it? - Dan
"Dan Kegel" <dank(a)kegel.com> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Roderick Colenbrander <thunderbird2k(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Say, http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ seems to be a popular source of nearly up to date wine builds for the mac. How about we link to it from http://winehq.org/download/ ?
Furthermore, are his packages good enough to support? If so, how 'bout we ask him to add links to bugzilla and the appdb from his page?
Most importantly we need to get rid of the Darwine name. It causes a lot of unneeded confusion.
Yes, I would like to keep Darwine as the name of the old powerpc project that combined an x86 emulator and wine.
Can we convince Mike and Zach to switch names to just plain Wine?
And change the licencing conditions to LGPL, currently that page states "Darwine and wine are released under the gpl". They also have to remove any differences between WineHQ sources and their ones, otherwise it can't be supported via WineHQ. -- Dmitry.
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry(a)codeweavers.com> wrote:
http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ Can we convince Mike and Zach to switch names to just plain Wine?
And change the licencing conditions to LGPL, currently that page states "Darwine and wine are released under the gpl".
Mike, that's just a typo, I think. Can you add the missing L?
They also have to remove any differences between WineHQ sources and their ones, otherwise it can't be supported via WineHQ.
Mike, how many patches are left? - Dan
On 21 Dec 2008, at 16:50, Dan Kegel wrote:
Say, http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ seems to be a popular source of nearly up to date wine builds for the mac. How about we link to it from http://winehq.org/download/ ?
Furthermore, are his packages good enough to support? If so, how 'bout we ask him to add links to bugzilla and the appdb from his page?
There is another source of OS X Wine builds at http://thisismyinter.net/Files/Darwine/Leopard/Installers/ . This is where I got my installers in the past, the owner is rebuilding the site at the moment though. My feeling was that they worked better but I don't have any hard evidence to support this. Cheers, -Maik
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> wrote:
Say, http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/ seems to be a popular source of nearly up to date wine builds for the mac. How about we link to it from http://winehq.org/download/ ?
Furthermore, are his packages good enough to support? If so, how 'bout we ask him to add links to bugzilla and the appdb from his page?
It currently has a few 'OS X-isms'. The patch that causes 100% cpu usage on SSL sites in IE6 is reverted, as well as a few x11 hacks. The other main problem is fonts. I think we need to fix the X11 hacks needed before doing considering it 'official' wine. We don't want a flood of bug reports for that problem. -- -Austin
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Austin English -
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Nathaniel Gray -
Roderick Colenbrander -
Zach Drayer