Wine button take 2

[Mike Hearn]

Here's my next attempt. It's smaller, thinner, anything I missed?

A few things to consider

- Biggest issue, what happens if we ask somebody to put up a Works With
Wine button, and then they release a new version that doesn't? Do they
take the button down? See below for a possible resolution to that
problem.

- Where does the button link to? I vote for a page that introduces Wine
and perhaps also Linux, how they relate etc - ie assume zero knowledge
about free software. The page then has a link to the appdb entry for the
program. The "intro" page would simply be have a dynamically generated
link to the appdb, so it acts as a kind of forwarding page. If a new
version is released and it no longer works in Wine, this can be noted in
the appdb.

- Could it be used as the start of trying to get Wine accepted as just
another version of Windows? Once the button is up on the site, I should
think the app maintainers would want to keep it there, after all if it
works in Wine then their app has a bigger market right? I started
thinking about how to get more people helping out on Wine, and
remembered that in the early days of X some of the developers signed
NDAs with hardware makers to get the driver specs. Perhaps if there is
an app that for whatever reason doesn't work with Wine, a developer
could sign an NDA, get access to the source, and either improve Wine so
it works, or alter the program (possibly both). We win, as Wine
improves. They win, as their app now works on Linux too. Of course, it'd
be nicer to have native apps, but hey.

- The button is just there if site owners would like it, I'd be happy to
settle for a textual link as well.

- Should the intro page explain about the 3 streams of Wine? IE "if the
app that linked to this page is a business app, you may have success
with CodeWeavers Crossover. If it was a game, then you might want to
investigate WineX, or you can get the latest sources direct from WineHQ"
etc

I'm happy to knock up an intro page that can be integrated into the wine
site if that's what people would like.

thanks -mike

[Sylvain Petreolle]

The two first questions find an answer if you link it to Wine's
compatibility lists.
> - Biggest issue, what happens if we ask somebody to put up a Works
> With
> Wine button, and then they release a new version that doesn't? Do
> they
> take the button down? See below for a possible resolution to that
> problem.
>
> - Where does the button link to? I vote for a page that introduces
> Wine
> and perhaps also Linux, how they relate etc - ie assume zero
> knowledge
> about free software. The page then has a link to the appdb entry for
> the
> program. The "intro" page would simply be have a dynamically
> generated
> link to the appdb, so it acts as a kind of forwarding page. If a new
> version is released and it no longer works in Wine, this can be noted
> in
> the appdb.

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[Francois Gouget]

On 11 Nov 2002, Mike Hearn wrote:
> Here's my next attempt. It's smaller, thinner, anything I missed?
>
> A few things to consider
>
> - Biggest issue, what happens if we ask somebody to put up a Works With
> Wine button, and then they release a new version that doesn't? Do they
> take the button down?

The application database distinguishes between different versions of an
application, i.e. it has separate pages for WinZip 8.1 and WinZip 2002.
So the button could point to the page of the latest version known to
work in Wine.


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[Vincent Béron]

Francois Gouget a écrit:
> On 11 Nov 2002, Mike Hearn wrote:
> > Here's my next attempt. It's smaller, thinner, anything I missed?
> >
> > A few things to consider
> >
> > - Biggest issue, what happens if we ask somebody to put up a Works With
> > Wine button, and then they release a new version that doesn't? Do they
> > take the button down?
>
> The application database distinguishes between different versions of an
> application, i.e. it has separate pages for WinZip 8.1 and WinZip 2002.
> So the button could point to the page of the latest version known to
> work in Wine.

Remember that the button is on a site we do not control, so it might be 
a good idea to have it point to a static URL (not static page) 
redirecting to the last known good in AppDB. Else, new versions of 
either the application or Wine can change the status, and it would be 
too much to ask the maintainers of the application website to change 
their link every now and then, when a new version of either comes out.

Vincent