Re: Re: Some more thoughts on khtml

> --- fenix(a)club-internet.fr wrote:
> > Hi,
> > > Just two things for those thinking about khtml:
> > >
> > > 1) The kdebindings package contains C-language bindings for khtml
> > > (kde_HTML*), so C++ wouldn't be a requirement for calling khtml
> > > (this does not affect the qt-replacement api of course).
> >
> > yes, as qtc in kdebindings is for qt :)
> > > 2) There is a project to port KWC to win32: KHTML Win32 Native, see
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/khtml-win32/ Maybe it is possible to
> > > use that.
> >
> > yes, but it's a really slow project (no cvs access, and only one guy). Maybe we have to help
> > this project
>
> Why not just port the GPL version of Qt to Windows?  The kde-cygwin project is doing that right
> now and it isn't terribly hard (if you know the Windows API ;).  I think if some wine developers
> got involved it could be accomplished very quickly as Qt is almost completely platform agnostic
> .... it only would require a port of 10 files or so...
>
> See:
> 1. http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=104072112729044&w=2
> 2. http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cygwin&m=104273412430620&w=2
> 3. http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-cygwin&m=104273881706572&w=2

I don't think it's a good idea :(
Now, we only need a few classes and code for porting KWQ to windows specific code (and more platform optimised than Qt).
While Qt need 10-15 huge base classes to be ported, and platform "tuning " on top level code (platform independent).

And, i don't like the port idea, because trolltech use Qt under windows as main product, and porting the GPL version to windows ...

In past, i have already done much of Qt (2.x version) porting under windows for a personal project. 
A first implementation is really easy but for a real industrial one, you need too much code with too much problems (you have to understand well what the top levels classes do, etc...)
> BTW, I have setup a project and already started porting the build stuff to use mingw32.

The mingw32 guy use a mix of win32 and unix compat layers (yakk) :(
> Currently, am stuck in the qfile_win.cpp and qdir_win.cpp (copies of the qfile_unix.cpp and
> qdir_unix.cpp) with the general functions that abstract file creation/deletion for windows ... but
> then I don't know any Windows API ;)

lol
as i said before, i think helping the kwq-win32 project is the right way
> Cheers,
>
> Adam

regards,
Raphael

Some more thoughts on khtml

[Adam Treat]

--- fenix(a)club-internet.fr wrote:
> > Why not just port the GPL version of Qt to Windows?  The kde-cygwin project is doing that right
> > ...
> > I don't think it's a good idea :(
> > Now, we only need a few classes and code for porting KWQ to windows specific code (and more
> > platform optimised than Qt).
> > While Qt need 10-15 huge base classes to be ported, and platform "tuning " on top level code
> > (platform independent).
>
> And, i don't like the port idea, because trolltech use Qt under windows as main product, and
> porting the GPL version to windows ...

*sigh* yes, i agree this is a problem.  I don't want to hurt Trolltech, I just wish Qt could be
used as a GPL cross-platform lib.  Am still looking for a creative solution that would work for
both Trolltech and the community, so if anyone has any ideas... ;)
> In past, i have already done much of Qt (2.x version) porting under windows for a personal
> project. 
> A first implementation is really easy but for a real industrial one, you need too much code with
> too much problems (you have to understand well what the top levels classes do, etc...)
> > BTW, I have setup a project and already started porting the build stuff to use mingw32.
>
> The mingw32 guy use a mix of win32 and unix compat layers (yakk) :(

I think you are speaking of cygwin here.  AFAIK, mingw creates native windows
executables/libraries...
> as i said before, i think helping the kwq-win32 project is the right way

yah, it sounds like KWQ is the answer for wines needs

Cheers,

Adam

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Some more thoughts on khtml

[Adam Treat]

--- Adam Treat <manyoso(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- fenix(a)club-internet.fr wrote:
> > > Why not just port the GPL version of Qt to Windows?  The kde-cygwin project is doing that
> > > And, i don't like the port idea, because trolltech use Qt under windows as main product, and
> > > porting the GPL version to windows ...
>
> *sigh* yes, i agree this is a problem.  I don't want to hurt Trolltech, I just wish Qt could be
> used as a GPL cross-platform lib.  Am still looking for a creative solution that would work for
> both Trolltech and the community, so if anyone has any ideas... ;)

hehe, maybe Trolltech could release a 'Shared Source' version of Qt for windows... It'd allow
people to try Qt (the latest version) and prohibit commercial software...  After all, when on a
different platform 'do as the locals do' ;)

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