Hi all, recently I tried to lookup some previously discussed things in wine-devel archives and was surprised that neither winehq.org nor archive.org provide something useful, all the links I tried don't work. The things get a bit more complex due to transition from pipermail to hyperkitty and current system. Is it possible to make old archives available again and fix access to current wine-devel/wine-gitlab archives? Thanks. -- Dmitry.
On Saturday, 17 January 2026 09:15:20 CST Dmitry Timoshkov via Wine-devel wrote:
Hi all,
recently I tried to lookup some previously discussed things in wine-devel archives and was surprised that neither winehq.org nor archive.org provide something useful, all the links I tried don't work. The things get a bit more complex due to transition from pipermail to hyperkitty and current system. Is it possible to make old archives available again and fix access to current wine-devel/wine-gitlab archives?
It seems the archives are all still there, but the domain was changed from www.winehq.org to list.winehq.org. Perhaps we could set up some forwards? FWIW all the mailman2 (pipermail) links do still exist as a read-only archive, up until the point when we transitioned to mailman3. --Zeb
Elizabeth Figura <zfigura@codeweavers.com> wrote:
It seems the archives are all still there, but the domain was changed from www.winehq.org to list.winehq.org. Perhaps we could set up some forwards?
FWIW all the mailman2 (pipermail) links do still exist as a read-only archive, up until the point when we transitioned to mailman3.
While the archives seem to be there they can't be downloaded. For example from https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel an attempt try to download archive for August 2022 fails: https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2022-August.txt.gz While it's only 35Kb in size it stucks at 14.7 Kb for me. Archives for gitlab, for instance https://www.winehq.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/wine-gitlab@winehq.org/2022/... can't be even browsed, and timeout for me. Do they work for you? -- Dmitry.
The old pipermail archives are provided as is. If you cannot access or download them, that is between you and your ISP. I've not had any issues loading them myself. The new mailman3 list archives are here: https://list.winehq.org/archives/list/wine-devel@list.winehq.org/ I've updated the old mailman3 redirects on www.winehq.org so that they go to the correct place. We never did that after the lists moved to the new list.winehq.org home. On 1/17/2026 1:26 PM, Dmitry Timoshkov via Wine-devel wrote:
Elizabeth Figura <zfigura@codeweavers.com> wrote:
It seems the archives are all still there, but the domain was changed from www.winehq.org to list.winehq.org. Perhaps we could set up some forwards?
FWIW all the mailman2 (pipermail) links do still exist as a read-only archive, up until the point when we transitioned to mailman3. While the archives seem to be there they can't be downloaded. For example from https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel an attempt try to download archive for August 2022 fails: https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2022-August.txt.gz While it's only 35Kb in size it stucks at 14.7 Kb for me. Archives for gitlab, for instance https://www.winehq.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/wine-gitlab@winehq.org/2022/... can't be even browsed, and timeout for me. Do they work for you?
-- Dmitry.
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Hi Jeremy, thanks for looking at this. Jeremy Newman via Wine-devel <wine-devel@list.winehq.org> wrote:
The old pipermail archives are provided as is. If you cannot access or download them, that is between you and your ISP. I've not had any issues loading them myself.
It seems that I'm not the only one who can't download archives, it looks like archive.org has the problem archiving them too since the archives are missing there.
The new mailman3 list archives are here: https://list.winehq.org/archives/list/wine-devel@list.winehq.org/
I've updated the old mailman3 redirects on www.winehq.org so that they go to the correct place. We never did that after the lists moved to the new list.winehq.org home.
Thanks. -- Dmitry.
On Saturday, 17 January 2026 14:20:26 CST Jeremy Newman via Wine-devel wrote:
The old pipermail archives are provided as is. If you cannot access or download them, that is between you and your ISP. I've not had any issues loading them myself.
The new mailman3 list archives are here: https://list.winehq.org/archives/list/wine-devel@list.winehq.org/
I've updated the old mailman3 redirects on www.winehq.org so that they go to the correct place. We never did that after the lists moved to the new list.winehq.org home.
Works now, thank you!
On 1/17/2026 1:26 PM, Dmitry Timoshkov via Wine-devel wrote:
Elizabeth Figura <zfigura@codeweavers.com> wrote:
It seems the archives are all still there, but the domain was changed from www.winehq.org to list.winehq.org. Perhaps we could set up some forwards?
FWIW all the mailman2 (pipermail) links do still exist as a read-only archive, up until the point when we transitioned to mailman3. While the archives seem to be there they can't be downloaded. For example from https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel an attempt try to download archive for August 2022 fails: https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2022-August.txt.gz While it's only 35Kb in size it stucks at 14.7 Kb for me. Archives for gitlab, for instance https://www.winehq.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/wine-gitlab@winehq.org/2022/... can't be even browsed, and timeout for me. Do they work for you?
Both of these links work fine for me (and I did test outside of any CW networks, just in case).
Elizabeth Figura via Wine-devel <wine-devel@list.winehq.org> wrote:
On 1/17/2026 1:26 PM, Dmitry Timoshkov via Wine-devel wrote:
Elizabeth Figura <zfigura@codeweavers.com> wrote:
It seems the archives are all still there, but the domain was changed from www.winehq.org to list.winehq.org. Perhaps we could set up some forwards?
FWIW all the mailman2 (pipermail) links do still exist as a read-only archive, up until the point when we transitioned to mailman3. While the archives seem to be there they can't be downloaded. For example from https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel an attempt try to download archive for August 2022 fails: https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2022-August.txt.gz While it's only 35Kb in size it stucks at 14.7 Kb for me. Archives for gitlab, for instance https://www.winehq.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/wine-gitlab@winehq.org/2022/... can't be even browsed, and timeout for me. Do they work for you?
Both of these links work fine for me (and I did test outside of any CW networks, just in case).
Many thanks for the assistance! Do the following links also work for you? They hang for me after initial small chunk: https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2022-June.txt.gz https://www.winehq.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/wine-gitlab@winehq.org/expor... -- Dmitry.
On Sun, Jan 18, 2026 at 2:26 AM Dmitry Timoshkov via Wine-devel <wine-devel@list.winehq.org> wrote:
Elizabeth Figura via Wine-devel <wine-devel@list.winehq.org> wrote:
On 1/17/2026 1:26 PM, Dmitry Timoshkov via Wine-devel wrote:
Elizabeth Figura <zfigura@codeweavers.com> wrote:
It seems the archives are all still there, but the domain was changed from www.winehq.org to list.winehq.org. Perhaps we could set up some forwards?
FWIW all the mailman2 (pipermail) links do still exist as a read-only archive, up until the point when we transitioned to mailman3. While the archives seem to be there they can't be downloaded. For example from https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel an attempt try to download archive for August 2022 fails: https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2022-August.txt.gz While it's only 35Kb in size it stucks at 14.7 Kb for me. Archives for gitlab, for instance https://www.winehq.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/wine-gitlab@winehq.org/2022/... can't be even browsed, and timeout for me. Do they work for you?
Both of these links work fine for me (and I did test outside of any CW networks, just in case).
Many thanks for the assistance!
Do the following links also work for you? They hang for me after initial small chunk:
https://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2022-June.txt.gz https://www.winehq.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/wine-gitlab@winehq.org/expor...
-- Dmitry.
Both work for me: $ du -sh Downloads/*gz 4.2M Downloads/2022-June.txt.gz 3.0M Downloads/wine-gitlab@winehq.org-2024-09.mbox.gz -- -Austin GPG: 267B CC1F 053F 0749 (expires 2026-03-03)
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