Re: Google "Summer of Code"

[Jesse Allen]

Mike Hearn said:
We need more people working on app compatibility! :) Maybe we can choose
some apps that are "nearly there" and get people to solve the last few
bugs or alternatively make one of the projects "Bring any 3 apps up to
Gold status in the appdb".

Stefan Dösinger said:
I've a few app suggestions:
Half-Life 1 (+Mods like Counter-Strike)
Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Academy
Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Outcast
Warcraft III
Microsoft Visual Basic
Microsoft Visual C++
UltraISO
Quicktime player
Anno 1602


I am a super maintainer for Warcraft III.  I *know* everything that
needs to be fixed.  In fact, I have been working on it for a long
time.  I just need a little more motivation to get the last major
issues fixed.

Now here's the deal.  I need something to do this summer, and my job
at IBM may be going away.  I'm also a student at a local college here,
and have been itching to do something.  I've helped wine a bit before
so I'm not a total new-comer.  I know C, but can use more practice.

So I'm willing to work to get three applications to gold status.  Jedi
Acadamy is probably doable as well, from what I've seen.  But if
anyone has suggestions I'm willing to look.  I could help Ivan to get
Safedisc to work too.  So maybe if I can get a list of goals to reach,
I will apply for it.

Jesse

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[Stefan Dösinger]

Hello,
> So I'm willing to work to get three applications to gold status.  Jedi
> Acadamy is probably doable as well, from what I've seen.  But if
> anyone has suggestions I'm willing to look.  I could help Ivan to get
> Safedisc to work too.  So maybe if I can get a list of goals to reach,
> I will apply for it.
> Well the biggest problem is the InstallShield installer, appart of this I 
> haven't noticed any problem.
> (Well it needs the official 1.01 update to make copy protection not complain 
> about a debugger)

Stefan

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[Jesse Allen]

On 6/3/05, Stefan Dösinger <stefandoesinger(a)gmx.at> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Well the biggest problem is the InstallShield installer, appart of this I
> haven't noticed any problem.
> (Well it needs the official 1.01 update to make copy protection not complain
> about a debugger)

Do we know how this game "detects" a debugger?  So if I make a TODO
list for this game, I should concentrate on getting InstallShield
running for it? The 1.01 patch level/debugging issue is not very
important.

Here's a list of problems for Warcraft 3
Critical issues:
* Bug 2075  (ie missing single player buttons)  I know how to fix this one.

Major issues:
* Imm32 is not complete.  Probably for internationalized versions.
* Quartz32 does not seem to support the divx codec the game uses.
* There is a sound lockup issue now.

Not so important one:
* D3D8 is the default game rendering mode, which work needs to be
done.  OpenGL mode is available which works perfectly.

There is lots more information, on copy protection in particular in
the HOWTO.  Copy protection does work.
http://appdb.winehq.com/appview.php?versionId=1177

Jesse

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[Mike Hearn]

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:26:48 -0700, Jesse Allen wrote:
> Do we know how this game "detects" a debugger?  So if I make a TODO
> list for this game, I should concentrate on getting InstallShield
> running for it?

No, we're dealing with InstallShield. Focus on apps or games that have
non-installer related problems even if you need native DCOM to get them
installed for now.

thanks -mike

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[Jesse Allen]

On 6/3/05, Mike Hearn <mh(a)codeweavers.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:26:48 -0700, Jesse Allen wrote:
> > Do we know how this game "detects" a debugger?  So if I make a TODO
> > list for this game, I should concentrate on getting InstallShield
> > running for it?
>
> No, we're dealing with InstallShield. Focus on apps or games that have
> non-installer related problems even if you need native DCOM to get them
> installed for now.

OK I will look through the AppDB and select ones that might be good to
take a shot at.

Jesse

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[Uwe Bonnes]

> > > > > "Mike" == Mike Hearn <mh(a)codeweavers.com> writes:

Mike> On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:26:48 -0700, Jesse Allen wrote:
    >> Do we know how this game "detects" a debugger?  So if I make a TODO
    >> list for this game, I should concentrate on getting InstallShield
    >> running for it?

    Mike> No, we're dealing with InstallShield. Focus on apps or games that
    Mike> have non-installer related problems even if you need native DCOM
    Mike> to get them installed for now.

Dumping my old ~/.wine directory and starting with wt212jo, wine-20041019and
following the winetool instructions, I could finally install a lot of
application and track down problems with those applications, and not
problems with the installer....


-- 
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Institut fuer Kernphysik  Schlossgartenstrasse 9  64289 Darmstadt
--------- Tel. [phone] -------- Fax. [phone] ----------

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[Robert Shearman]

Mike Hearn wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 13:26:48 -0700, Jesse Allen wrote:
> > Do we know how this game "detects" a debugger?  So if I make a TODO
> > list for this game, I should concentrate on getting InstallShield
> > running for it?
>
> No, we're dealing with InstallShield. Focus on apps or games that have
> non-installer related problems even if you need native DCOM to get them
> installed for now.

No one should feel that they can't hack on InstallShield. However, if 
anyone has an InstallShield installer that doesn't work they send me 
links to free demos and I will do my best to get them installing. If 
there isn't a free demo, then you can also email me compressed 
"+ole,+tid" logs and I will look at them too and advise on the problem 
if I can. Having said that, I don't promise that I will get your 
InstallShield installer working next week or even next month, but it is 
a long term goal of mine and CodeWeavers that every game or application 
should install.

-- 
Rob Shearman

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[Mike Hearn]

On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 19:02 -0500, Robert Shearman wrote:
> No one should feel that they can't hack on InstallShield. However, if 
> anyone has an InstallShield installer that doesn't work they send me 
> links to free demos and I will do my best to get them installing.

Sure, obviously if somebody is interested then by all means help out.
I'd just rather people spent their time writing patches to other areas
than doing the work necessary to come up to speed on InstallShield
issues. The documentation is a lot better than it was, but it still took
both of us several months to really get a grip on the internals of DCOM,
and several months is time that could be spent improving D3D or
whatever.

thanks -mike

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[Stefan Dösinger]

Am Freitag, 3. Juni 2005 20:26 schrieb Jesse Allen:
> On 6/3/05, Stefan Dösinger <stefandoesinger(a)gmx.at> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Well the biggest problem is the InstallShield installer, appart of this I
> > haven't noticed any problem.
> > (Well it needs the official 1.01 update to make copy protection not
> > complain about a debugger)
>
> Do we know how this game "detects" a debugger?  So if I make a TODO
> list for this game, I should concentrate on getting InstallShield
> running for it? The 1.01 patch level/debugging issue is not very
> important.
> No, at least I don't know how it detects the debugger. But I think with this 
> update, it does not try to detect one any more, and the 1.0 version does this 
> only in the single player jasp.exe. The multiplayer .exe file jamp.exe works 
> fine out of the box.

Install shield is the only issue I know, and after a few hours of playing the 
game aborts gracefully with some sort of out of memory message when trying to 
load a new map. I don't know if this is a Wine issue, I've seen various 
instabilities on Windows too.

Stefan

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[Lionel Ulmer]

> * Quartz32 does not seem to support the divx codec the game uses.

Here we should check what is wrong... Basically, check if this codec is
installed 'by default' in a Windows installation (if it's really DivX I
doubt it). If it's not in basic Windows, then the game must install the
codec itself and we need to check why it can't be used by our QUARTZ.

          Lionel

-- 
		 Lionel Ulmer - http://www.bbrox.org/

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[Jesse Allen]

On 6/4/05, Lionel Ulmer <lionel.ulmer(a)free.fr> wrote:
> > * Quartz32 does not seem to support the divx codec the game uses.
>
> Here we should check what is wrong... Basically, check if this codec is
> installed 'by default' in a Windows installation (if it's really DivX I
> doubt it). If it's not in basic Windows, then the game must install the
> codec itself and we need to check why it can't be used by our QUARTZ.
>
> Lionel
>
> --
>                  Lionel Ulmer - http://www.bbrox.org/

The game installs its own codec. "blizzard.ax"

-rw-r--r--  1 jesse users 606208 2004-12-31 20:23 .wine/drive_c/war3/blizzard.ax

system.reg:
[Software\\Classes\\CLSID\\{307A6C42-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}] 1100377251
@="DivX for Blizzard Decoder Filter"

[Software\\Classes\\CLSID\\{307A6C42-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}\\InprocServer3
2] 1100377837
@="C:\\war3\\blizzard.ax"
"ThreadingModel"="Both"

Jesse

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[Jesse Allen]

On 6/4/05, Jesse Allen <the3dfxdude(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> The game installs its own codec. "blizzard.ax"
>
> -rw-r--r--  1 jesse users 606208 2004-12-31 20:23 .wine/drive_c/war3/blizzard.ax
>
> system.reg:
> [Software\\Classes\\CLSID\\{307A6C42-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}] 1100377251
> @="DivX for Blizzard Decoder Filter"
>
> [Software\\Classes\\CLSID\\{307A6C42-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}\\InprocServer3
> 2] 1100377837
> @="C:\\war3\\blizzard.ax"
> "ThreadingModel"="Both"

One more key

[Software\\Classes\\CLSID\\{083863F1-70DE-11D0-BD40-00A0C911CE86}\\Instance\\{30
7A6C42-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}] 1117488034
"CLSID"="{307A6C42-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}"
"FilterData"=hex:02,00,00,00,00,00,80,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,30,70,69,33,\
  00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,30,74,79,33,00,\
  00,00,00,70,00,00,00,80,00,00,00,31,74,79,33,00,00,00,00,70,00,00,00,90,00,\
  00,00,31,70,69,33,08,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  00,30,74,79,33,00,00,00,00,70,00,00,00,a0,00,00,00,76,69,64,73,00,00,10,00,\
  80,00,00,aa,00,38,9b,71,42,6c,7a,30,00,00,10,00,80,00,00,aa,00,38,9b,71,42,\
  4c,5a,30,00,00,10,00,80,00,00,aa,00,38,9b,71,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  00,00,00,00,00,00
"FriendlyName"="DivX for Blizzard Decoder Filter"

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[Jesse Allen]

On 6/4/05, Lionel Ulmer <lionel.ulmer(a)free.fr> wrote:
> > * Quartz32 does not seem to support the divx codec the game uses.
>
> Here we should check what is wrong... Basically, check if this codec is
> installed 'by default' in a Windows installation (if it's really DivX I
> doubt it). If it's not in basic Windows, then the game must install the
> codec itself and we need to check why it can't be used by our QUARTZ.

Hi,

Back to the original subject of the thread,  do you think that
improving quartz would be a challenging enough project?

Jesse

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[Lionel Ulmer]

On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 07:56:42PM -0700, Jesse Allen wrote:
> Back to the original subject of the thread,  do you think that
> improving quartz would be a challenging enough project?

Yes it is and there is already mention of it on the Wiki page AFAIK.

       Lionel

-- 
		 Lionel Ulmer - http://www.bbrox.org/