Re: Slick build output

[Jason But]

First, I apologise for the patch not being here...  It appears that my 
attachment failed, I include it inline in the mail this time..

To Make.rules.in
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
20a21,32
> # Default running of (gnu)make causes a silent make with the NICE_ECHO 
> # macro expanding to the echo command.
> # Running (make VERBOSE=yes) causes the NICE_ECHO to expand to the NULL
> # shell command and cause no output.  The output will be as per the 
> # original incarnation of the Makefile
> ifneq ($(VERBOSE), yes)
> .SILENT:
> NICE_ECHO = @echo -e
> else
> NICE_ECHO = @:
> endif

118a131
> $(NICE_ECHO) "    Compiling\t\t$<"

There has been a range of comments to my original proposal.  I make the 
following points.

- I understand that there are those who desire to see the full output, for 
those running "make VERBOSE=yes" will produce exactly the same output as 
before.

- To the suggestion of "make -s", this gives no output and is pretty useless.

- I have been a developer for 20 years and nothing frustrates me more than 
make output that is over complicated.  I see the point of printing the full 
command line when developing and debugging the Makefile and the make process.  
Once this is fixed however, I prefer a simple output from make telling me 
what is currently being compiled, I don't need to see all output every time.

Finally, I have progressed a little further, but no patches for you yet.  I 
have modified the *.in files for Make.rules.in, and in the libs and tools 
subdirectories.  My current output (of make) is attached below for comment.  
I have similar output for "make install" and "make uninstall" (output is 
nicely lined up on fixed-width fonts :-)

Jason.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
jbut-laptop# make
Making in libs/
Making in libs/port/
    Compiling           ffs.c
    Compiling           fstatvfs.c
    Compiling           futimes.c
    Compiling           getopt.c
    Compiling           getopt1.c
    Compiling           getpagesize.c
    Compiling           gettid.c
    Compiling           interlocked.c
    Compiling           lstat.c
    Compiling           memcpy_unaligned.c
    Compiling           memmove.c
    Compiling           mkstemps.c
    Compiling           pread.c
    Compiling           pwrite.c
    Compiling           readlink.c
    Compiling           sigsetjmp.c
    Compiling           spawn.c
    Compiling           statvfs.c
    Compiling           strcasecmp.c
    Compiling           strerror.c
    Compiling           strncasecmp.c
    Compiling           usleep.c
  Creating Library      libwine_port.a

Making in libs/unicode/
    Compiling           casemap.c
    Compiling           collation.c
    Compiling           compose.c
    Compiling           cptable.c
    Compiling           fold.c
    Compiling           mbtowc.c
    Compiling           sortkey.c
    Compiling           string.c
    Compiling           utf8.c
    Compiling           wctomb.c
    Compiling           wctype.c
    Compiling           c_037.c
    Compiling           c_424.c
    Compiling           c_437.c
    Compiling           c_500.c
    Compiling           c_737.c
    Compiling           c_775.c
    Compiling           c_850.c
    Compiling           c_852.c
    Compiling           c_855.c
    Compiling           c_856.c
    Compiling           c_857.c
    Compiling           c_860.c
    Compiling           c_861.c
    Compiling           c_862.c
    Compiling           c_863.c
    Compiling           c_864.c
    Compiling           c_865.c
    Compiling           c_866.c
    Compiling           c_869.c
    Compiling           c_874.c
    Compiling           c_875.c
    Compiling           c_878.c
    Compiling           c_932.c
    Compiling           c_936.c
    Compiling           c_949.c
    Compiling           c_950.c
    Compiling           c_1006.c
    Compiling           c_1026.c
    Compiling           c_1250.c
    Compiling           c_1251.c
    Compiling           c_1252.c
    Compiling           c_1253.c
    Compiling           c_1254.c
    Compiling           c_1255.c
    Compiling           c_1256.c
    Compiling           c_1257.c
    Compiling           c_1258.c
    Compiling           c_10000.c
    Compiling           c_10006.c
    Compiling           c_10007.c
    Compiling           c_10029.c
    Compiling           c_10079.c
    Compiling           c_10081.c
    Compiling           c_20866.c
    Compiling           c_20932.c
    Compiling           c_28591.c
    Compiling           c_28592.c
    Compiling           c_28593.c
    Compiling           c_28594.c
    Compiling           c_28595.c
    Compiling           c_28596.c
    Compiling           c_28597.c
    Compiling           c_28598.c
    Compiling           c_28599.c
    Compiling           c_28600.c
    Compiling           c_28603.c
    Compiling           c_28604.c
    Compiling           c_28605.c
    Compiling           c_28606.c
  Creating Library      libwine_unicode.so.1
  Creating Library      libwine_unicode.so

Making in libs/wine/
    Compiling           config.c
config.c: In function `init_server_dir':
config.c:120: warning: right shift count >= width of type
config.c:125: warning: right shift count >= width of type
    Compiling           debug.c
    Compiling           ldt.c
    Compiling           loader.c
    Compiling           mmap.c
    Compiling           port.c
  Creating Library      libwine.so.1
  Creating Library      libwine.so

Making in libs/wpp/
    Compiling           preproc.c
    Compiling           wpp.c
    YACCing             ppy.y
    Compiling           y.tab.c
    LEXing              ppl.l
    Compiling           lex.yy.c
  Creating Library      libwpp.a


Making in tools/
    Compiling           bin2res.c
  Linking               bin2res
    Compiling           fnt2bdf.c
  Linking               fnt2bdf
    Compiling           fnt2fon.c
  Linking               fnt2fon
    Compiling           makedep.c
  Linking               makedep
    Compiling           sfnt2fnt.c
  Linking               sfnt2fnt
  Creating              wineprefixcreate
Making in tools/widl/
    Compiling           hash.c
    Compiling           header.c
    Compiling           proxy.c
    Compiling           typelib.c
    Compiling           utils.c
    Compiling           widl.c
    Compiling           write_msft.c
write_msft.c:584: warning: 'ctl2_alloc_importinfo' defined but not used
write_msft.c:622: warning: 'ctl2_alloc_importfile' defined but not used
write_msft.c:920: warning: 'ctl2_find_nth_reference' defined but not used
    YACCing             parser.y
conflicts:  25 shift/reduce
    Compiling           y.tab.c
    LEXing              parser.l
    Compiling           lex.yy.c
  Linking               widl

Making in tools/winebuild/
    Compiling           import.c
    Compiling           main.c
    Compiling           parser.c
    Compiling           relay.c
    Compiling           res16.c
    Compiling           res32.c
    Compiling           spec16.c
    Compiling           spec32.c
    Compiling           utils.c
  Linking               winebuild
    Creating            winebuild.man

Making in tools/winedump/
    Compiling           debug.c
    Compiling           emf.c
    Compiling           le.c
    Compiling           main.c
    Compiling           misc.c
    Compiling           msmangle.c
    Compiling           ne.c
    Compiling           output.c
    Compiling           pe.c
    Compiling           search.c
    Compiling           symbol.c
  Linking               winedump

Making in tools/winegcc/
    Compiling           winegcc.c
    Compiling           utils.c
  Linking               winegcc

Making in tools/wmc/
    Compiling           lang.c
    YACCing             mcy.y
    YACCing             mcy.y
    Compiling           mcl.c
    Compiling           utils.c
    Compiling           wmc.c
    Compiling           write.c
    Compiling           y.tab.c
  Linking               wmc

Making in tools/wrc/
    Compiling           dumpres.c
    Compiling           genres.c
    Compiling           newstruc.c
    Compiling           readres.c
    Compiling           translation.c
    Compiling           utils.c
    Compiling           wrc.c
    Compiling           writeres.c
    YACCing             parser.y
conflicts:  5 shift/reduce
    Compiling           y.tab.c
    LEXing              parser.l
    Compiling           lex.yy.c
  Linking               wrc

Slick build output

[Jesse Allen]

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:41:15 +1100, Jason But >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> jbut-laptop# make
> Making in libs/
> Making in libs/port/
>     Compiling           ffs.c
>     Compiling           fstatvfs.c
>     Compiling           futimes.c
>     Compiling           getopt.c
>     Compiling           getopt1.c
>     Compiling           getpagesize.c

Abbreviated build output is nice.  I personally like how the linux
kernel build system uses the basic command names themselves for the
abbreviation.  For example, instead of "compiling", use "CC".  That
way it should generally be shorter in output than using the English
word, and save even more diskspace.  True, it may make it more cryptic
again, but people who build their own wine should know what CC is for
anyway.

Slick build output

[Alexandre Julliard]

Jason But <jbut(a)swin.edu.au> writes:
> - I have been a developer for 20 years and nothing frustrates me more than 
> make output that is over complicated.  I see the point of printing the full 
> command line when developing and debugging the Makefile and the make process.  
> Once this is fixed however, I prefer a simple output from make telling me 
> what is currently being compiled, I don't need to see all output every time.

It's pretty trivial to write a make wrapper that massages the output
into whatever form you prefer. This way you get your preferred format
with every project you build, you don't have to impose your tastes on
everybody else, and you avoid adding complexity (and non-portable
code) into our makefiles.

-- 
Alexandre Julliard
julliard(a)winehq.org

Slick build output

[Robert Shearman]

Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> Jason But <jbut(a)swin.edu.au> writes:
> > - I have been a developer for 20 years and nothing frustrates me more than 
> > make output that is over complicated.  I see the point of printing the full 
> > command line when developing and debugging the Makefile and the make process.  
> > Once this is fixed however, I prefer a simple output from make telling me 
> > what is currently being compiled, I don't need to see all output every time.
>
> It's pretty trivial to write a make wrapper that massages the output
> into whatever form you prefer.

Unless it's in CVS, only one person will benefit from it. That's not the 
open-source way.
> This way you get your preferred format
> with every project you build, you don't have to impose your tastes on
> everybody else,

If those tastes are shared by a majority of developers, then it 
shouldn't be a problem.
> and you avoid adding complexity (and non-portable
> code) into our makefiles.

Ok, this is a problem. Does this mean you won't accept any patches to 
the makefiles to convert to "slick" build output?

Rob

Slick build output

[Alexandre Julliard]

Robert Shearman <rob(a)codeweavers.com> writes:
> Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> > It's pretty trivial to write a make wrapper that massages the output
> > into whatever form you prefer.
>
> Unless it's in CVS, only one person will benefit from it. That's not
> the open-source way.

Feel free to start a project on sourceforge for that. It's clearly not
Wine specific and doesn't belong in the Wine CVS.
> Ok, this is a problem. Does this mean you won't accept any patches to
> the makefiles to convert to "slick" build output?

No, I won't. Our makefiles are already complicated enough to not add
such gratuitous complexity.

-- 
Alexandre Julliard
julliard(a)winehq.org

Slick build output

[Jason But]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 04:41 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> Robert Shearman <rob(a)codeweavers.com> writes:
> > Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> > > It's pretty trivial to write a make wrapper that massages the output
> > > into whatever form you prefer.
> >
> > Unless it's in CVS, only one person will benefit from it. That's not
> > the open-source way.
>
> Feel free to start a project on sourceforge for that. It's clearly not
> Wine specific and doesn't belong in the Wine CVS.
> > Ok, this is a problem. Does this mean you won't accept any patches to
> > the makefiles to convert to "slick" build output?
>
> No, I won't. Our makefiles are already complicated enough to not add
> such gratuitous complexity.

In that case I will not bring this up any more after this email.

I note that while the patches are extensive they are merely the addition of 
one ECHO line to each rule.

For those who are interested, I attach the patch here (hoping it works this 
time) for the completed output cleanup.  I ran

diff -urN wine-20050111 wine-20050111.new > make_patches

where wine-20050111/ is the directory with the current wine sources 
and wine-20050111.new/ is the patched directory

All the changes are to the Make*.in files.

Closing off my input now.

Jason.

Slick build output

[Jason But]

Oops re:patch

My system is a FreeBSD one so there are some other differences.

Please ignore the bits of the patch that:
===============================================
in programs/Makefile.in 
diff -urN wine-20050111/programs/Makefile.in 
wine-20050111.new/programs/Makefile.in
--- wine-20050111/programs/Makefile.in Thu Aug 12 06:59:09 2004
+++ wine-20050111.new/programs/Makefile.in Tue Feb  1 10:49:41 2005
@@ -32,7 +32,6 @@
  winemenubuilder \
  winemine \
  winepath \
- winetest \
  winevdm \
  winhelp \
  winver
@@ -63,7 +62,6 @@
  winemenubuilder \
  winemine \
  winepath \
- winetest \
  winevdm \
  winhelp \
  winver
@@ -116,7 +114,6 @@
  winemenubuilder.exe$(DLLEXT) \
  winemine.exe$(DLLEXT) \
  winepath.exe$(DLLEXT) \
- winetest.exe$(DLLEXT) \
  winevdm.exe$(DLLEXT) \
  winhelp.exe$(DLLEXT) \
  winver.exe$(DLLEXT)
@@ -126,9 +123,11 @@

===============================================
and in Makefile.in

diff -urN wine-20050111/Makefile.in wine-20050111.new/Makefile.in
--- wine-20050111/Makefile.in Thu Oct  7 13:12:44 2004
+++ wine-20050111.new/Makefile.in Tue Feb  1 10:49:29 2005
 install:: install-lib install-dev install-aclocal
- -$(LDCONFIG)
- @if test -n "`LANG=C $(LDD) $(bindir)/wine|grep not.found`"; \
+ @if false ; \
  then        \
   echo "*************************************************" ; \
   echo "*************************************************" ; \

===============================================
These are applied by the FreeBSD Port for wine

Jason