Hi, I just got this - Lindows released 2 screenshots of their Lindows: www.lindows.com/screenshots Now, IF they did use wine (and thats a big if - from the screenshots they're running either Office 2K or office XP, Internet Explorer, the fonts looks like MS TTF fonts, and I think those screenshots are modified a bit - look at the 2nd screenshots, behind the start menu - look at the "file/edit/view" menu - it should be alligned to the left) and they'll contribute some parts of their wine to the standard wine - then wine will be in much better shape then what is it today. Hetz
Thisn is going to be a fun one - think of all the M$ patents and EULA's they are breaking :) M$ might leave us alone - but a competative product looking that much like windows? No chanec. Which probably means we'll never see a line of code.. A) Because they'll keep it to themselves, and B) because they'll be out of buisness within a month of first sales. Call me a cynic :p Regards, | Any significantly advanced technology is | indistinguishable from a perl script. Ender | (James Brown) | [Nehahra, EasyCuts, PureLS, www.QuakeSrc.org] On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:48:14 +0200 From: Hetz Ben Hamo <hetz(a)kde.org> To: wine-devel(a)winehq.com Subject: Lindows screenshots
Hi,
I just got this - Lindows released 2 screenshots of their Lindows: www.lindows.com/screenshots
Now, IF they did use wine (and thats a big if - from the screenshots they're running either Office 2K or office XP, Internet Explorer, the fonts looks like MS TTF fonts, and I think those screenshots are modified a bit - look at the 2nd screenshots, behind the start menu - look at the "file/edit/view" menu - it should be alligned to the left) and they'll contribute some parts of their wine to the standard wine - then wine will be in much better shape then what is it today.
Hetz
"J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" <ender(a)enderboi.com> wrote in message news:Pine.LNX.4.31.0201042213560.18672-100000(a)shaker.worfie.net...
Thisn is going to be a fun one - think of all the M$ patents and EULA's they are breaking :)
M$ might leave us alone - but a competative product looking that much like windows? No chanec.
Did you notice that M$ are already on the offensive; they are going to court over the name itself. Bill
Yeah, M$ is claiming that they got -indows as a registered trademark. But, they tried to register "Windows" (by itself) as a registered trademark a few years back. But they got turned down because the word "windows" is a common English word. They cannot register word suffices as registered trademarks IMO. Personally, who is going to confuse between "Windows" and "Lindows?" If one isn't paying attention, they may sound similar, but in print, they are unmistakingly different. It's yet another abuse of their monopoly status. Just my two cents worth. ** Derek J Witt ** * Email: mailto:djw(a)flinthills.com * * Home Page: http://www.flinthills.com/~djw/ * *** "...and on the eighth day, God met Bill Gates." - Unknown ** On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Bill Medland wrote:
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 07:48:37 -0800 From: Bill Medland <medbi01_1(a)accpac.com> To: wine-devel(a)winehq.com Subject: Re: Lindows screenshots
"J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)" <ender(a)enderboi.com> wrote in message news:Pine.LNX.4.31.0201042213560.18672-100000(a)shaker.worfie.net...
Thisn is going to be a fun one - think of all the M$ patents and EULA's they are breaking :)
M$ might leave us alone - but a competative product looking that much like windows? No chanec.
Did you notice that M$ are already on the offensive; they are going to court over the name itself.
Bill
"Hetz Ben Hamo" <hetz(a)kde.org> wrote in message news:E16MRt0-0004gu-00(a)witch.dyndns.org...
Hi,
I just got this - Lindows released 2 screenshots of their Lindows: www.lindows.com/screenshots
Now, IF they did use wine (and thats a big if
Why? It looks to me like KDE & Wine and enough hard work to get a couple of office apps up with some reasonable fonts (and the usual minimal touchup work for marketing screenshots) <Cut>
menu - it should be alligned to the left) and they'll contribute some parts of their wine to the standard wine - then wine will be in much better shape then what is it today.
I wouldn't hold my breath; why would they contribute the valuable stuff back? Bill
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:06:11AM -0800, Bill Medland wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath; why would they contribute the valuable stuff back?
What do you think of people that have contributed their invaluable time/money/energy/passion/etc to Wine for last years? :P Jun-Young -- Bang Jun-Young <junyoung(a)mogua.com>
"Bang Jun-Young" <junyoung(a)mogua.com> wrote in message news:20020108023339.A5460(a)krishna...
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:06:11AM -0800, Bill Medland wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath; why would they contribute the valuable stuff back?
What do you think of people that have contributed their invaluable time/money/energy/passion/etc to Wine for last years? :P
Sorry you took offence. I am in awe of what the team have achieved since the early days and impressed at how rapidly things appear to be moving at present. I believe in what Wine is doing, which is part of the reason why I am one of the people working on it (although I don't do all that much). I also get an impression that much of the development is based on altruism rather than financial concerns (which I guess is your point). Wine is now getting to quite an advanced state and so begins to look attractive to a lot of people. We have just finished a major discussion of the license and are basically going to leave it as it stands; at least that's my understanding. (And I agree with that) Gavriel has been quite up-front about what TransGaming are doing, in a business sense. Basically when the company reaches the equivalent of about $1million a year they can consider that they are recouping their investment and can feel comfortable passing back significant code. This implies to me a sense of honesty tinged with realistic business sense. Lindows, to the best of my knowledge, have made no such business committment to Wine; they agree to abide by all licenses but, as we have just discussed, the license does not require them to publish their source code. Considering their marketing etc. and their target market.I expect them to hang onto the work they have done for quite a while before feeding it back to the Wine tree. Maybe I am wrong (and I hope I am) but what we have to recognise is that Wine is now getting to the stage at which big business gets interested. Bill NB These are my own personal views..
Bang Jun-Young wrote:
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:06:11AM -0800, Bill Medland wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath; why would they contribute the valuable stuff back?
What do you think of people that have contributed their invaluable time/money/energy/passion/etc to Wine for last years? :P
Jun-Young
-- Bang Jun-Young <junyoung(a)mogua.com>
Personally I would be pissed off if someone is making money after all the work I had but into a "Free Project" assuming it would be free for everyone else to use, including the source. I guess the project should change the license to LGPL and make it retroactive and enforce it. James
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, James Tabor wrote:
Bang Jun-Young wrote:
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 08:06:11AM -0800, Bill Medland wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath; why would they contribute the valuable stuff back?
What do you think of people that have contributed their invaluable time/money/energy/passion/etc to Wine for last years? :P
Personally I would be pissed off if someone is making money after all the work I had but into a "Free Project" assuming it would be free for everyone else to use, including the source.
I guess the project should change the license to LGPL and make it retroactive and enforce it.
Once a license has been granted, it can't be unilaterally revoked. Although going forward Wine could be distributed under a different license than the present one, past decisions will stand. Steve Langasek postmodern programmer
Personally I would be pissed off if someone is making money after all the work I had but into a "Free Project" assuming it would be free for everyone else to use, including the source.
I guess the project should change the license to LGPL and make it retroactive and enforce it. James
Well, I wouldn't go that far. But alas the Lindows work will probably never see the light of day, according to the interview linked from slashdot.. "While Lindows will be constructed on top of open-source software, some of its key elements will be proprietary -- a strategy that will not make some open-source advocates happy but which Robertson says is essential to making the business work." Similar to Transgaming, only it looks like they've made major progress in making just everyday apps work.
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