Hi, On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:45:25PM -0400, Tom Wickline wrote:
Hello,
Change cvs -z 3 to cvs -z 0
Huh, why do you think anyone would accept that? A lot of people still use modem links (or even DSL might be troublesome for that matter), so using no compression at all can be considered fatal. For such a strange patch (at least from my point of view), an explanation/justification is sorely missing. -- Help prevent Information Technology Fascism! - before it's too late... http://www.againsttcpa.com
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 07:39:15AM +0200, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:45:25PM -0400, Tom Wickline wrote:
Hello,
Change cvs -z 3 to cvs -z 0
Huh, why do you think anyone would accept that? A lot of people still use modem links (or even DSL might be troublesome for that matter), so using no compression at all can be considered fatal. For such a strange patch (at least from my point of view), an explanation/justification is sorely missing.
Because cvs -z3 still hangs at the end of any cvs command. Ciao, Marcus
Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 07:39:15AM +0200, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 11:45:25PM -0400, Tom Wickline wrote:
Hello,
Change cvs -z 3 to cvs -z 0
Huh, why do you think anyone would accept that? A lot of people still use modem links (or even DSL might be troublesome for that matter), so using no compression at all can be considered fatal. For such a strange patch (at least from my point of view), an explanation/justification is sorely missing.
Because cvs -z3 still hangs at the end of any cvs command.
Ciao, Marcus
Thanks, 1) bug/s 2) and most of all server overhead.. Tom
"Marcus Meissner" <marcus(a)jet.franken.de> wrote:
Change cvs -z 3 to cvs -z 0 Huh, why do you think anyone would accept that? A lot of people still use modem links (or even DSL might be troublesome for that matter), so using no compression at all can be considered fatal. For such a strange patch (at least from my point of view), an explanation/justification is sorely missing.
Because cvs -z3 still hangs at the end of any cvs command.
Well, after it started to hang for me after a WineHQ crash, I changed it to -z0 for once and moved it back to -z9 right after -z0 case succeeded. -z9 still works fine for me under both Linux and win2k. -- Dmitry.
Dmitry Timoshkov wrote:
"Marcus Meissner" <marcus(a)jet.franken.de> wrote:
Change cvs -z 3 to cvs -z 0
Huh, why do you think anyone would accept that? A lot of people still use modem links (or even DSL might be troublesome for that matter), so using no compression at all can be considered fatal. For such a strange patch (at least from my point of view), an explanation/justification is sorely missing.
Because cvs -z3 still hangs at the end of any cvs command.
Well, after it started to hang for me after a WineHQ crash, I changed it to -z0 for once and moved it back to -z9 right after -z0 case succeeded. -z9 still works fine for me under both Linux and win2k.
Hi, This is what I have installed RedHat 7.3 Concurrent Versions System (CVS) 1.11.1p1 (client/server) Glibc 2.5-42 gzip 1.3.3 1 to 9 hangs and only 0 works. I also chaged it to 0 ran it once and it worked. Changed it to 9 and it hung again... Tom
Then use decent tools => upgrade CVS.
Hi,
This is what I have installed
RedHat 7.3 Concurrent Versions System (CVS) 1.11.1p1 (client/server) Glibc 2.5-42 gzip 1.3.3
1 to 9 hangs and only 0 works.
I also chaged it to 0 ran it once and it worked. Changed it to 9 and it hung again...
Tom
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On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 05:03:58PM +0900, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote:
"Marcus Meissner" <marcus(a)jet.franken.de> wrote:
Change cvs -z 3 to cvs -z 0 Huh, why do you think anyone would accept that? A lot of people still use modem links (or even DSL might be troublesome for that matter), so using no compression at all can be considered fatal. For such a strange patch (at least from my point of view), an explanation/justification is sorely missing.
Because cvs -z3 still hangs at the end of any cvs command. Ah, now THAT is an explanation that gives it a lot of sense...
Well, after it started to hang for me after a WineHQ crash, I changed it to -z0 for once and moved it back to -z9 right after -z0 case succeeded. -z9 still works fine for me under both Linux and win2k. How about leaving -z3 as is and adding a notice about potential hangs in red letters?
I'm not sure whether we should easily give up on that compression gain... -- Help prevent Information Technology Fascism! - before it's too late... http://www.againsttcpa.com
Andreas Mohr wrote:
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 05:03:58PM +0900, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote:
"Marcus Meissner" <marcus(a)jet.franken.de> wrote:
Change cvs -z 3 to cvs -z 0
Huh, why do you think anyone would accept that? A lot of people still use modem links (or even DSL might be troublesome for that matter), so using no compression at all can be considered fatal. For such a strange patch (at least from my point of view), an explanation/justification is sorely missing.
Because cvs -z3 still hangs at the end of any cvs command.
Ah, now THAT is an explanation that gives it a lot of sense...
Sure does :))
Well, after it started to hang for me after a WineHQ crash, I changed it to -z0 for once and moved it back to -z9 right after -z0 case succeeded. -z9 still works fine for me under both Linux and win2k.
How about leaving -z3 as is and adding a notice about potential hangs in red letters?
Why not put in red letters 0 works but you can try from 1 to 9 ?
I'm not sure whether we should easily give up on that compression gain...
I agree people get the source a little faster but the server also has to works harder ? I say change it to 0 untill 3 ( or whatever ) works for everyone. And in the mean time you can still use whatever you wish. The page is for newbies to cvs anyway...... most experienced users are going to go with what's in there .cvsrc Tom
On May 26, 2003 05:11 am, Andreas Mohr wrote:
How about leaving -z3 as is and adding a notice about potential hangs in red letters?
Please don't. No more big and/or red warnings all over the place. We should suggest something that works. People who are concerned about compression know what to do. We can add something like so: "If you work over a slow link, you may want to compress the traffic with -z3. However, there are known bugs in CVS with this compressed communication mode, make sure you use cvs version 1.11.5 or later." So yeah, the patch is good, because if people don't bother to read the text, they get something that works. Correctness before speed. -- Dimi.
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 08:30:26AM -0400, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On May 26, 2003 05:11 am, Andreas Mohr wrote:
How about leaving -z3 as is and adding a notice about potential hangs in red letters?
Please don't. No more big and/or red warnings all over the place. We should suggest something that works. People who are concerned about compression know what to do. We can add something like so:
"If you work over a slow link, you may want to compress the traffic with -z3. However, there are known bugs in CVS with this compressed communication mode, make sure you use cvs version 1.11.5 or later."
So yeah, the patch is good, because if people don't bother to read the text, they get something that works. Correctness before speed. Agreed, that's the way to go! I guess I wouldn't have taken offense in the first place if only the patch had included a tiny explanation of why this is supposed to be changed.
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