Hi Christopher, Christopher Harvey wrote:
What needs to get done for iTunes to work?
v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' registry stuff properly. I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and silently fails if they don't exist. I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from installing without first manually creating those registry keys. Cheers, Maarten.
On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Christopher,
Christopher Harvey wrote:
What needs to get done for iTunes to work?
v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' registry stuff properly.
I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and silently fails if they don't exist.
I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from installing without first manually creating those registry keys.
The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring to? -- James Hawkins
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Christopher,
Christopher Harvey wrote:
What needs to get done for iTunes to work?
v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' registry stuff properly.
I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and silently fails if they don't exist.
I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from installing without first manually creating those registry keys.
The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring to? Keys like: In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: ImagePath="C:\...." Start=0x00000002 Description="....."
Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start the service. :-) Cheers, Maarten.
On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Christopher,
Christopher Harvey wrote:
What needs to get done for iTunes to work?
v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' registry stuff properly.
I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and silently fails if they don't exist.
I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from installing without first manually creating those registry keys.
The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring to? Keys like: In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: ImagePath="C:\...." Start=0x00000002 Description="....."
Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start the service. :-)
hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to start.) -- James Hawkins
Hi James, 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Christopher,
Christopher Harvey wrote:
What needs to get done for iTunes to work?
v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' registry stuff properly.
I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and silently fails if they don't exist.
I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from installing without first manually creating those registry keys.
The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring to? Keys like: In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: ImagePath="C:\...." Start=0x00000002 Description="....."
Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start the service. :-)
hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to start.) There is a big difference. Without it it will abort installation because the bonjour service fails to start. With it it will start but immediately crash, however that happens after start so installation happily continues. The effect is that installer will continue. I don't see how it can be fine if it fails to create the appropiate registry keys.
Cheers, Maarten.
On Feb 17, 2008 11:16 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi James,
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Christopher,
Christopher Harvey wrote:
What needs to get done for iTunes to work?
v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' registry stuff properly.
I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and silently fails if they don't exist.
I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from installing without first manually creating those registry keys.
The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring to? Keys like: In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: ImagePath="C:\...." Start=0x00000002 Description="....."
Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start the service. :-)
hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to start.) There is a big difference. Without it it will abort installation because the bonjour service fails to start. With it it will start but immediately crash, however that happens after start so installation happily continues. The effect is that installer will continue. I don't see how it can be fine if it fails to create the appropiate registry keys.
I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying that the call to CreateService doesn't fail, or you'd get an err, like I said before. service = CreateServiceW(hscm, name, disp, GENERIC_ALL, serv_type, start_type, err_control, file->TargetPath, load_order, NULL, NULL, serv_name, pass); if (!service) { if (GetLastError() != ERROR_SERVICE_EXISTS) ERR("Failed to create service %s: %d\n", debugstr_w(name), GetLastError()); } I'm not saying there's not a bug in CreateServiceW, but as it stands, we don't get a failure. -- James Hawkins
Hi James, 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 11:16 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi James,
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Christopher,
Christopher Harvey wrote: > What needs to get done for iTunes to work?
v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' registry stuff properly.
I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and silently fails if they don't exist.
I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from installing without first manually creating those registry keys.
The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring to? Keys like: In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: ImagePath="C:\...." Start=0x00000002 Description="....."
Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start the service. :-)
hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to start.) There is a big difference. Without it it will abort installation because the bonjour service fails to start. With it it will start but immediately crash, however that happens after start so installation happily continues. The effect is that installer will continue. I don't see how it can be fine if it fails to create the appropiate registry keys.
I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying that the call to CreateService doesn't fail, or you'd get an err, like I said before.
service = CreateServiceW(hscm, name, disp, GENERIC_ALL, serv_type, start_type, err_control, file->TargetPath, load_order, NULL, NULL, serv_name, pass); if (!service) { if (GetLastError() != ERROR_SERVICE_EXISTS) ERR("Failed to create service %s: %d\n", debugstr_w(name), GetLastError()); }
I'm not saying there's not a bug in CreateServiceW, but as it stands, we don't get a failure. You can try for yourself at the following link: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/windows/bonjourforwindows.html
Or try iTunes v7.6 directly. It could also be that it never calls CreateService for some reason, I'm not 100% sure. Cheers, Maarten.
On Feb 17, 2008 11:39 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi James,
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 11:16 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi James,
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Christopher, > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > > v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and > find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' > registry stuff properly. > > I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 > actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and > silently fails if they don't exist. > > I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is > probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from > installing without first manually creating those registry keys. >
The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring to? Keys like: In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: ImagePath="C:\...." Start=0x00000002 Description="....."
Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start the service. :-)
hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to start.) There is a big difference. Without it it will abort installation because the bonjour service fails to start. With it it will start but immediately crash, however that happens after start so installation happily continues. The effect is that installer will continue. I don't see how it can be fine if it fails to create the appropiate registry keys.
I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying that the call to CreateService doesn't fail, or you'd get an err, like I said before.
service = CreateServiceW(hscm, name, disp, GENERIC_ALL, serv_type, start_type, err_control, file->TargetPath, load_order, NULL, NULL, serv_name, pass); if (!service) { if (GetLastError() != ERROR_SERVICE_EXISTS) ERR("Failed to create service %s: %d\n", debugstr_w(name), GetLastError()); }
I'm not saying there's not a bug in CreateServiceW, but as it stands, we don't get a failure. You can try for yourself at the following link: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/windows/bonjourforwindows.html
Or try iTunes v7.6 directly.
It could also be that it never calls CreateService for some reason, I'm not 100% sure.
I already have tried it; that's how I know the call doesn't fail. Yes it does call CreateService. All the error paths in ITERATE_InstallService have ERRs, so you'd see it if it did fail. -- James Hawkins
Hi James, 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 11:39 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi James,
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 11:16 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi James,
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
> On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Christopher, > > > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > > > > v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and > > find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' > > registry stuff properly. > > > > I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 > > actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and > > silently fails if they don't exist. > > > > I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is > > probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from > > installing without first manually creating those registry keys. > > > > The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, > we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring > to? Keys like: In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: ImagePath="C:\...." Start=0x00000002 Description="....."
Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start the service. :-)
hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to start.) There is a big difference. Without it it will abort installation because the bonjour service fails to start. With it it will start but immediately crash, however that happens after start so installation happily continues. The effect is that installer will continue. I don't see how it can be fine if it fails to create the appropiate registry keys.
I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying that the call to CreateService doesn't fail, or you'd get an err, like I said before.
service = CreateServiceW(hscm, name, disp, GENERIC_ALL, serv_type, start_type, err_control, file->TargetPath, load_order, NULL, NULL, serv_name, pass); if (!service) { if (GetLastError() != ERROR_SERVICE_EXISTS) ERR("Failed to create service %s: %d\n", debugstr_w(name), GetLastError()); }
I'm not saying there's not a bug in CreateServiceW, but as it stands, we don't get a failure. You can try for yourself at the following link: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/windows/bonjourforwindows.html
Or try iTunes v7.6 directly.
It could also be that it never calls CreateService for some reason, I'm not 100% sure.
I already have tried it; that's how I know the call doesn't fail. Yes it does call CreateService. All the error paths in ITERATE_InstallService have ERRs, so you'd see it if it did fail. It could be that it fails with a parameter error and then exits silently, those paths are not covered.
On a slightly related note: Do you know if the hardware drivers are installed somewhere? I would be interested in getting iTunes syncing to my ipod touch (similar to iphone). I didn't see anything in my wineprefix after installation. Cheers, Maarten.
Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
On a slightly related note: Do you know if the hardware drivers are installed somewhere? I would be interested in getting iTunes syncing to my ipod touch (similar to iphone). I didn't see anything in my wineprefix after installation.
I don't know about the iPod Touch and iPhone, but iPods are USB mass storage devices in Windows and so don't require any device drivers. iTunes 4.x communicated with an iPod using DeviceIoControl(..., IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH, ...) and DeviceIoControl(..., IOCTL_SCSI_PASS_THROUGH_DIRECT, ...), but only after doing a whole bunch of low-level calls using setupapi and other ioctls to find the device. The 4.x versions of iTunes did install a driver for the CD burning functionality, however. Good luck, but bear in mind that any hard work done on iTunes may need to re-done in 3-6 months time when the next version of iTunes comes out. -- Rob Shearman
On Feb 18, 2008 5:41 AM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On a slightly related note: Do you know if the hardware drivers are installed somewhere? I would be interested in getting iTunes syncing to my ipod touch (similar to iphone). I didn't see anything in my wineprefix after installation.
You'll want to look for iTunesMobileDevice.dll, not a driver. The whole thing is just a proprietary USB protocol. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com
Why are we interested in iTunes? There seem to be plenty of alternatives available. Or are we talking about ipod compatibility specifically, as there are no viable alternatives to iTunes for syncing. Edward On Feb 18, 2008 3:11 PM, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>:
On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Christopher,
Christopher Harvey wrote:
What needs to get done for iTunes to work?
v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' registry stuff properly.
I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and silently fails if they don't exist.
I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from installing without first manually creating those registry keys.
The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring to? Keys like: In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: ImagePath="C:\...." Start=0x00000002 Description="....."
Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start the service. :-)
hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to start.)
-- James Hawkins
Hi Edward, 2008/2/17, Edward Savage <epssyis(a)gmail.com>:
Why are we interested in iTunes? There seem to be plenty of alternatives available.
Or are we talking about ipod compatibility specifically, as there are no viable alternatives to iTunes for syncing. Because this is a project that runs windows apps in linux, instead of writing alternatives for it? ;-)
Cheers, Maarten.
Maarten why not focus on supporting applications that don't have viable open source solutions first? I can think of hundreds. The only thing iTunes will add, with full support, is ipod syncing (that isn't useless). Or should we avoid that debate? On Feb 18, 2008 3:18 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Edward,
2008/2/17, Edward Savage <epssyis(a)gmail.com>:
Why are we interested in iTunes? There seem to be plenty of alternatives available.
Or are we talking about ipod compatibility specifically, as there are no viable alternatives to iTunes for syncing. Because this is a project that runs windows apps in linux, instead of writing alternatives for it? ;-)
Cheers, Maarten.
Am Montag, 18. Februar 2008 06:34:04 schrieb Edward Savage:
Maarten why not focus on supporting applications that don't have viable open source solutions first? I can think of hundreds.
The only thing iTunes will add, with full support, is ipod syncing (that isn't useless).
Or should we avoid that debate? I think it would probably be better not to debate, but the issue is this: For you there are viable itunes alternatives, and for you there are other applications which do not have alternatives. Compare this to the discussions wether working on Microsoft Office is a waste of time or not. Everyone has other expectations, so it is *very* hard to judge which application will be useful and which not.
In the same way the usefullness of $APP in Wine differs from person to person. A bug which is worth a small remark on a review for one person is a killer bug for another. To come back to iTunes, I have met a few people who considered Linux but were stopped by iTunes for various reasons. Some may seem laughable to tech-savy people(Other apps look differently), some are technically reasonable(iTunes shop, DRM support). Of couse you can find 100 reasons why AutoCAD is more important than iTunes, but you can also find 100 reasons why iTunes is more important than ACAD
2008/2/18, Stefan Dösinger <stefandoesinger(a)gmx.at>:
Am Montag, 18. Februar 2008 06:34:04 schrieb Edward Savage:
Maarten why not focus on supporting applications that don't have viable open source solutions first? I can think of hundreds.
The only thing iTunes will add, with full support, is ipod syncing (that isn't useless).
Or should we avoid that debate? I think it would probably be better not to debate, but the issue is this: For you there are viable itunes alternatives, and for you there are other applications which do not have alternatives. Compare this to the discussions wether working on Microsoft Office is a waste of time or not. Everyone has other expectations, so it is *very* hard to judge which application will be useful and which not.
In the same way the usefullness of $APP in Wine differs from person to person. A bug which is worth a small remark on a review for one person is a killer bug for another.
To come back to iTunes, I have met a few people who considered Linux but were stopped by iTunes for various reasons. Some may seem laughable to tech-savy people(Other apps look differently), some are technically reasonable(iTunes shop, DRM support). Of couse you can find 100 reasons why AutoCAD is more important than iTunes, but you can also find 100 reasons why iTunes is more important than ACAD Well I bought an ipod touch. But there are no other apps then iTunes that can do the firmware upload so it's sort of laying on my desk until I can figure it out. That aside, the alternatives rely on tactics that are similar to loading malware. Real alternatives for iTunes? Not so much.
Cheers, Maarten.
Does iTunes sync with devices when being run under xp in qemu or similiar? I honestly haven't updated my ipod for a year and don't use it any more as i haven't found a viable and easy way to do it. Maarten will probably be interested in the answer as well. On Feb 19, 2008 10:02 AM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2008/2/18, Stefan Dösinger <stefandoesinger(a)gmx.at>:
Am Montag, 18. Februar 2008 06:34:04 schrieb Edward Savage:
Maarten why not focus on supporting applications that don't have viable open source solutions first? I can think of hundreds.
The only thing iTunes will add, with full support, is ipod syncing (that isn't useless).
Or should we avoid that debate? I think it would probably be better not to debate, but the issue is this: For you there are viable itunes alternatives, and for you there are other applications which do not have alternatives. Compare this to the discussions wether working on Microsoft Office is a waste of time or not. Everyone has other expectations, so it is *very* hard to judge which application will be useful and which not.
In the same way the usefullness of $APP in Wine differs from person to person. A bug which is worth a small remark on a review for one person is a killer bug for another.
To come back to iTunes, I have met a few people who considered Linux but were stopped by iTunes for various reasons. Some may seem laughable to tech-savy people(Other apps look differently), some are technically reasonable(iTunes shop, DRM support). Of couse you can find 100 reasons why AutoCAD is more important than iTunes, but you can also find 100 reasons why iTunes is more important than ACAD Well I bought an ipod touch. But there are no other apps then iTunes that can do the firmware upload so it's sort of laying on my desk until I can figure it out. That aside, the alternatives rely on tactics that are similar to loading malware. Real alternatives for iTunes? Not so much.
Cheers, Maarten.
Hi Edward, 2008/2/18, Edward Savage <epssyis(a)gmail.com>:
Does iTunes sync with devices when being run under xp in qemu or similiar?
I honestly haven't updated my ipod for a year and don't use it any more as i haven't found a viable and easy way to do it. Maarten will probably be interested in the answer as well. It might run under vmplayer 2.0 if you add EHCI.present = "TRUE" to your config file. However iTunes doesn't seem to really like it and bombs out with an error in XP. (0xE8000001)
Cheers, Maarten.
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