[AppDB] Entry for Everquest 2
I just noticed that the entry for "Everquest II", the sequel to "Everquest", is listed as version 2 under "Everquest" in AppDB. This is incorrect, as the sequel is not a new version of the original game, it is a new game. Can someone help me fix it? I'd delete the version but there's quite a bit of test data there. I've CC'd the version maintainers.
This is really nitpicking isn't it? On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 12:02 +1100, Ben Klein wrote:
I just noticed that the entry for "Everquest II", the sequel to "Everquest", is listed as version 2 under "Everquest" in AppDB. This is incorrect, as the sequel is not a new version of the original game, it is a new game. Can someone help me fix it? I'd delete the version but there's quite a bit of test data there.
I've CC'd the version maintainers.
not really... it's a completly new game. i'll see if i can do something... 2009/3/15 John Beaulieu <john.beaulieu(a)comcast.net>
This is really nitpicking isn't it?
On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 12:02 +1100, Ben Klein wrote:
I just noticed that the entry for "Everquest II", the sequel to "Everquest", is listed as version 2 under "Everquest" in AppDB. This is incorrect, as the sequel is not a new version of the original game, it is a new game. Can someone help me fix it? I'd delete the version but there's quite a bit of test data there.
I've CC'd the version maintainers.
done. i've created a new application and moved test data there. unfortunatly appdb doesn't move comments so those are lost :( i wait for the EQ maintainers to step up for EQ2 :P http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=9400 2009/3/15 Ben Klein <shacklein(a)gmail.com>
I just noticed that the entry for "Everquest II", the sequel to "Everquest", is listed as version 2 under "Everquest" in AppDB. This is incorrect, as the sequel is not a new version of the original game, it is a new game. Can someone help me fix it? I'd delete the version but there's quite a bit of test data there.
I've CC'd the version maintainers.
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Ricardo Filipe <ricardojdfilipe(a)gmail.com> wrote:
done. i've created a new application and moved test data there. unfortunatly appdb doesn't move comments so those are lost :(
i wait for the EQ maintainers to step up for EQ2 :P http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=9400
2009/3/15 Ben Klein <shacklein(a)gmail.com>
I just noticed that the entry for "Everquest II", the sequel to "Everquest", is listed as version 2 under "Everquest" in AppDB. This is incorrect, as the sequel is not a new version of the original game, it is a new game. Can someone help me fix it? I'd delete the version but there's quite a bit of test data there.
I've CC'd the version maintainers.
I've always wondered about that. Thanks for fixing it. Someone already changed the description to include the link you mentioned. Is that all you wanted? I am a maintainer of the original EQ.
all that is changed it was me. i kept everything on context, although i forgot to copy EQ2 description :S what i meant is that you or other EQ maintainer ask to be EQ2 maintainer ;) 2009/3/15 Charity Abbott <angeliqer(a)gmail.com>
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Ricardo Filipe <ricardojdfilipe(a)gmail.com> wrote:
done. i've created a new application and moved test data there. unfortunatly appdb doesn't move comments so those are lost :(
i wait for the EQ maintainers to step up for EQ2 :P http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=9400
2009/3/15 Ben Klein <shacklein(a)gmail.com>
I just noticed that the entry for "Everquest II", the sequel to "Everquest", is listed as version 2 under "Everquest" in AppDB. This is incorrect, as the sequel is not a new version of the original game, it is a new game. Can someone help me fix it? I'd delete the version but there's quite a bit of test data there.
I've CC'd the version maintainers.
I've always wondered about that. Thanks for fixing it. Someone already changed the description to include the link you mentioned. Is that all you wanted? I am a maintainer of the original EQ.
Ben Klein <shacklein <at> gmail.com> writes:
I just noticed that the entry for "Everquest II", the sequel to "Everquest", is listed as version 2 under "Everquest" in AppDB. This is incorrect, as the sequel is not a new version of the original game, it is a new game. Can someone help me fix it? I'd delete the version but there's quite a bit of test data there.
I've CC'd the version maintainers.
I understand why this was fixed, but the method and timing were bad. When EverQuest II was removed as a version of EverQuest and moved to it's own appdb entry in response to this message the only thing preserved was the test data. The votes for the application, the comments (with much needed info), maintainer notes (including howtos), and even the maintainers were removed. None of the bugs reported for Everquest 2 that were linked to the app are linked anymore and do not appear on the new appdb page. After being forced to re-apply to be a maintainer once again and doing a lot of searching through cached google pages I was able to restore some of the lost info. Is there a way to link the bugs to the appdb entry or not? Can the votes for the application be restored? Why wasnt this left to a super maintainer to correct instead? Why wasnt enough time allowed for input before an arbitrary change was made?
as i said before, it was an uninformed decision, and yes, not enough time was left for feedback from the maintainers. we thought that appdb WOULD save all the data when moving, not only tests. it serves as example for us for the future, unfortunatly with problems to the EQ2 users. as i said before, sorry for that. at least it serves to not repeat the mistake, we hope you understand. a super maintainer would not be able to move the data to the new application, only appdb admins have that power. votes cannot be restored automatically, people will have to vote on the new page. bug links are manually recoverable, searching bugzilla and linking should be easy, i can do that if you feel you don't have time to. 2009/3/18 John Beaulieu <john.beaulieu(a)comcast.net>
Ben Klein <shacklein <at> gmail.com> writes:
I just noticed that the entry for "Everquest II", the sequel to "Everquest", is listed as version 2 under "Everquest" in AppDB. This is incorrect, as the sequel is not a new version of the original game, it is a new game. Can someone help me fix it? I'd delete the version but there's quite a bit of test data there.
I've CC'd the version maintainers.
I understand why this was fixed, but the method and timing were bad. When EverQuest II was removed as a version of EverQuest and moved to it's own appdb entry in response to this message the only thing preserved was the test data. The votes for the application, the comments (with much needed info), maintainer notes (including howtos), and even the maintainers were removed. None of the bugs reported for Everquest 2 that were linked to the app are linked anymore and do not appear on the new appdb page. After being forced to re-apply to be a maintainer once again and doing a lot of searching through cached google pages I was able to restore some of the lost info. Is there a way to link the bugs to the appdb entry or not? Can the votes for the application be restored? Why wasnt this left to a super maintainer to correct instead? Why wasnt enough time allowed for input before an arbitrary change was made?
Ricardo Filipe <ricardojdfilipe <at> gmail.com> writes:
as i said before, it was an uninformed decision, and yes, not enough time was left for feedback from the maintainers.we thought that appdb WOULD save all the data when moving, not only tests. it serves as example for us for the future, unfortunatly with problems to the EQ2 users. as i said before, sorry for that. at least it serves to not repeat the mistake, we hope you understand.a super maintainer would not be able to move the data to the new application, only appdb admins have that power.votes cannot be restored automatically, people will have to vote on the new page.bug links are manually recoverable, searching bugzilla and linking should be easy, i can do that if you feel you don't have time to.
Mistakes happen, and I apologize for the irritated undertones of my messages. In the end it was the right thing to do anyways. Any help anybody could provide on tracking down and linking bugs is much appreciated. I'll try and do what I can as time permits. Thanks again for the explanation and the help. :)
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:58:00 +0000 Ricardo Filipe <ricardojdfilipe(a)gmail.com> wrote:
bug links are manually recoverable, searching bugzilla and linking should be easy, i can do that if you feel you don't have time to.
You can find a copy of wine appdb here http://ftp.winehq.org/pub/wine/ So someone may have a old copy of the data base.
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