The future of WineConf

[Henri Verbeet]

We touched on this during WineConf a little already, but were slightly
short on time. With most people back from travel and the videos
starting to get published, now seems like a good time to continue that
conversation.

Key points from the previous conversation:

  - We have several offers for hosting WineConf 2019. In no particular order:
    - Kiev, Ukraine, by Arthur Hil
    - Bali, Indonesia, by Aric Stewart
    - Vilnius, Lithuania, by Ričardas Barkauskas
    - Japan, by Alexandre Julliard
    - Toronto, Canada, by Ulrich Czekalla
    - Minnesota, United States of America, by Jeremy White
    - Austin, Texas, United States of America, by Austin English

  Most of those are longer standing ones; Kiev, Bali and Japan are new
this year. There's an argument for holding WineConf somewhere other
than Europe and the United States after 16 years, although travel
costs are also a consideration. Another fact worth pointing out in
this context is that September 12, 2019 would be the 25th anniversary
of Alexandre's maintainership of Wine.

  - The time of year this time seems to have been generally well-received.

  - Samathy proposed having a Code of Conduct for the conference.
While, to my knowledge, there has never been an instance where one
would have been needed, and hopefully that will continue to be the
case in the future, it seems prudent to me to have one.

  - The CFP could have been more formal/explicit.

  - General discussion slots are still considered useful. We'd like to
preserve those.

Other points I'd like to bring up:

  - What did people think of the A/V recording? Was that a good thing,
and something we should continue to keep improving? Or is the
consensus that it's intrusive and not worth bothering with?

  - I think there was a sentiment, at least with some people, that 2-3
days was fairly short and we weren't quite done discussing things yet.
Would it perhaps make sense to extend the conference by a day in the
future an include e.g. Monday as well?

  - Should we put more effort into attracting external (e.g., from the
broader Free Software community, and people/organisations using Wine)
speakers?

We'd like to hear your feedback on these points, as well as your
general feedback about which things you liked and would like to keep
seeing in the future, and which things you disliked. If there's any
feedback you'd rather not give in public, you can of course always
simply send me a private e-mail as well.

Henri

[Alex Henrie]

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 3:59 PM Henri Verbeet <hverbeet(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> - We have several offers for hosting WineConf 2019. In no particular order:
>     - Kiev, Ukraine, by Arthur Hil
>     - Bali, Indonesia, by Aric Stewart
>     - Vilnius, Lithuania, by Ričardas Barkauskas
>     - Japan, by Alexandre Julliard
>     - Toronto, Canada, by Ulrich Czekalla
>     - Minnesota, United States of America, by Jeremy White
>     - Austin, Texas, United States of America, by Austin English

I like Toronto because I've never been there and it's on the same
continent as me. Not having to jump over an ocean helps these trips to
not be so expensive and makes it more likely that I can convince at
least one Wine-using friend to come.

-Alex

[Julian Rüger]

Hi guys!
> - What did people think of the A/V recording? Was that a good thing,
> and something we should continue to keep improving? Or is the
> consensus that it's intrusive and not worth bothering with?

I really appreciate the better quality, especially audio. It's a huge
step up from last year and makes the videos way more enjoyable to watch.
Thanks for that!

As someone who only benefits from the pros and is not bothered by the
cons, I can't tell you if it's worth it, but again, it is
appreciated! :)


Best,
Julian

[Zebediah Figura]

On 13/07/18 09:34, Julian Rüger wrote:
> Hi guys!
> > - What did people think of the A/V recording? Was that a good thing,
> > and something we should continue to keep improving? Or is the
> > consensus that it's intrusive and not worth bothering with?
>
> I really appreciate the better quality, especially audio. It's a huge
> step up from last year and makes the videos way more enjoyable to watch.
> Thanks for that!
>
> As someone who only benefits from the pros and is not bothered by the
> cons, I can't tell you if it's worth it, but again, it is
> appreciated! :)
>
> Best,
> Julian

Same here; I'm really glad to have videos available, and I may be biased
by being a native English speaker but I didn't have trouble
understanding them.

ἔρρωσθε,
Zeb

[Vincent Povirk]

> Same here; I'm really glad to have videos available, and I may be biased
> by being a native English speaker but I didn't have trouble
> understanding them.

Does this comment imply that the videos don't have
transcriptions/captions? (I was going to check myself, but the page
required javascript.)

[Zebediah Figura]

On 13/07/18 16:15, Vincent Povirk wrote:
> > Same here; I'm really glad to have videos available, and I may be biased
> > by being a native English speaker but I didn't have trouble
> > understanding them.
>
> Does this comment imply that the videos don't have
> transcriptions/captions? (I was going to check myself, but the page
> required javascript.)

Not yet, I believe, but they're intended to be added as far as I understand.

[Stefan Dösinger]

> Am 13.07.2018 um 16:19 schrieb Zebediah Figura <z.figura12(a)gmail.com>:
>
> On 13/07/18 16:15, Vincent Povirk wrote:
> > Does this comment imply that the videos don't have
> > transcriptions/captions? (I was going to check myself, but the page
> > required javascript.)
>
> Not yet, I believe, but they're intended to be added as far as I understand.
> I have added captions to places that I found difficult to understand and couldn't be fixed by adjusting the volume. I don't plan on adding more captions myself because it is really tedious work to write them and match them up with the exact timings when they should appear. If somebody wants to do that task and creates an SRT file we can add it to the videos.

[Vincent Povirk]

I would argue that transcriptions are useful even if they're not
synced to the video. We'll be more likely to find volunteers from the
community if we don't bury the call in a wine-devel thread.

[Zebediah Figura]

On 16/07/18 18:13, Vincent Povirk wrote:
> I would argue that transcriptions are useful even if they're not
> synced to the video. We'll be more likely to find volunteers from the
> community if we don't bury the call in a wine-devel thread.

I guess I'd be willing to do my own presentation (as much as I hate to
hear myself talk).