[Bug 18292] New: Make 8.3 names for LFNs more "Windows-like"
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18292 Summary: Make 8.3 names for LFNs more "Windows-like" Product: Wine Version: 1.1.20 Platform: PC URL: http://source.winehq.org/source/dlls/kernel32/path.c OS/Version: Linux Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: enhancement Priority: P2 Component: kernel32 AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: kennybobs(a)o2.co.uk When Windows creates 8.3 names for long file names, it does so in the form Progra~1 and increments the number by one with each new creation of a similar filename. So, Program Files --> Progra~1 Programmers --> Progra~2 Program Blah blah --> Progra~3 and so on. Under Wine, the 8.3 filenames seem somewhat random (PROG~HAE for example). Is it possible to implement this behaviour? It would make it easier to guess short path names, which makes it easier to add paths to the registry (when needed for workarounds, for example). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18292 Ken Sharp <kennybobs(a)o2.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |download, source -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18292 Alexander Scott-Johns <alexander.scott.johns+winebug(a)googlemail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |alexander.scott.johns+winebu | |g(a)googlemail.com --- Comment #1 from Alexander Scott-Johns <alexander.scott.johns+winebug(a)googlemail.com> 2009-04-29 19:16:04 --- (In reply to comment #0)
When Windows creates 8.3 names for long file names, it does so in the form Progra~1 and increments the number by one with each new creation of a similar filename. [...]
Microsoft has four patents related to long filenames on FAT, and recently tried to sue TomTom over them. Maybe this is why it isn't implemented properly - the Wine developers don't want to risk it. The patents may not apply to ext partitions though. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_file_names * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#FAT_licensing * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TomTom#Patent_infringement_lawsuit * http://practical-tech.com/operating-system/deep-in-microsofts-tomtom-linux-p... * http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=9594 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18292 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #2 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2009-04-29 22:15:28 --- There are no reason to duplicate that. And as mentioned might own some patents on that stuff. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18292 Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #3 from Vitaliy Margolen <vitaliy(a)kievinfo.com> 2009-04-29 22:17:13 --- Closing -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18292 --- Comment #4 from Ken Sharp <kennybobs(a)o2.co.uk> 2009-04-30 06:13:57 --- I have already said there is a reason for duplicating it. But it looks like Microshaft wins again. God knows how that patent was granted! "TomTom paid Microsoft an undisclosed sum and will reduce functionality in its products" How nice for the end user. It looks like the ~blah on Wine remains consistent anyway, so, in theory, any workarounds using the short paths should work every time, unless something is changed later. I'm sure I'll find out soon enough. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18292 --- Comment #5 from Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.org> 2009-04-30 16:32:13 --- The reason is not the patents, the reason is that we can't store the short name so we can't handle collisions. So we have to use a hash that makes collisions unlikely. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18292 Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry(a)codeweavers.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |spammis(a)spam.la --- Comment #6 from Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry(a)codeweavers.com> 2011-03-14 23:57:18 CDT --- *** Bug 26422 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18292 André H. <nerv(a)dawncrow.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks| |26423 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
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