[Bug 16031] New: Missing categorising by video driver version in AppDB
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 Summary: Missing categorising by video driver version in AppDB Product: WineHQ Apps Database Version: unspecified Platform: Other OS/Version: other Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: enhancement Priority: P2 Component: appdb-unknown AssignedTo: wine-bugs(a)winehq.org ReportedBy: mityukov(a)gmail.com I found the AppDB is a bit unusable, when it comes to quick check on "Which games will run in my system", or "Will this game run for me". The most important thing, when it come to games - is the Video Driver. For example, there are many games, that run for NVidia owners, but don't run for ATI, and so on. Another point, when it comes to specific driver name and version. For example, open-source "radeon" supports only OpenGL 1.3, and Catalyst supports higher implementations. Moreover, different versions of the same, let say Catalyst, may work differently for this or that program. There are also regressions, etc. Again: Video Drivers in Linux, are not ideal. I would say, this point have even higher affect than the Distribution. What I would like to see, near the "Distribution" column -- is another one: "Video" or something like this, where it will say e.g. "Catalyst 8.9". This way it will be possible to link Rating with certain Video Setup, before taking the decision. Some tools for searching Games, that work with specific video driver(s) would also be _HIGHLY_ appreciated. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 Ken Sharp <kennybobs(a)o2.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW CC| |kennybobs(a)o2.co.uk Ever Confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #1 from Ken Sharp <kennybobs(a)o2.co.uk> 2011-10-11 18:01:46 CDT --- A column for graphics manufacturer might be useful, but only if there is a filter or stats to compare the differences between each result. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 butraxz(a)gmail.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |butraxz(a)gmail.com --- Comment #2 from butraxz(a)gmail.com 2013-04-21 14:38:56 CDT --- No update for over 900 days. Is still an issue with 1.5.28 or higher ? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.winehq.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 Ken Sharp <imwellcushtymelike(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |legluondunet(a)free.fr --- Comment #3 from Ken Sharp <imwellcushtymelike(a)gmail.com> --- *** Bug 35131 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 winetest(a)luukku.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |austinenglish(a)gmail.com, | |winetest(a)luukku.com -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 --- Comment #4 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> --- (In reply to butraxz from comment #2)
No update for over 900 days. Is still an issue with 1.5.28 or higher?
It's not an issue in wine, it is an issue in the appdb. And yes, still present. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 Jeff D. Hanson <jhansonxi(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jhansonxi(a)gmail.com --- Comment #5 from Jeff D. Hanson <jhansonxi(a)gmail.com> --- Another concern is test reports submitted against hardware that doesn't meet the minimum system requirements of the app being tested. I think the best solution would be an automated report that could be attached or submitted. Something like Ubuntu's Apport crash reporter does for Launchpad bugs. This would avoid problems with formatting and would allow for easier parsing and analysis. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 --- Comment #6 from Austin English <austinenglish(a)gmail.com> --- (In reply to Jeff D. Hanson from comment #5)
Another concern is test reports submitted against hardware that doesn't meet the minimum system requirements of the app being tested.
That information may or may not be known (and may not be accurate, e.g., the specs required under Wine may be higher than on Windows).
I think the best solution would be an automated report that could be attached or submitted. Something like Ubuntu's Apport crash reporter does for Launchpad bugs. This would avoid problems with formatting and would allow for easier parsing and analysis.
That may be useful, but it's also a significant amount of work and out of scope for this bug. You'd also have to find someone that is interested in working on that, where most Wine developers would rather hack on Wine itself. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 --- Comment #7 from winetest(a)luukku.com --- I don't see much value on this. Some people say their gpus and drivers even without specific fields. Some programs receive so infrequently updates that drivers have gone a lot forward meanwhile. And if you look at the bug tracker there arent so many bugs that some game works on certain hardware and doesn't work on some other. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 --- Comment #8 from Jeff D. Hanson <jhansonxi(a)gmail.com> --- (In reply to Austin English from comment #6)
That information may or may not be known (and may not be accurate, e.g., the specs required under Wine may be higher than on Windows).
I'm aware of that. I'm concerned with false-positive errors.
That may be useful, but it's also a significant amount of work and out of scope for this bug. You'd also have to find someone that is interested in working on that, where most Wine developers would rather hack on Wine itself.
I wasn't proposing it as a solution to this bug, just using it as an example. Expecting reporters to supply that level of technical detail manually is unwise. A text box would result in a mess of nearly-useless unformatted data. A list box would be better but someone would have to keep it updated with driver names and versions. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 --- Comment #9 from Rosanne DiMesio <dimesio(a)earthlink.net> --- IMO, the main problem with this proposal is the assumption that users actually know what GPU/driver they have. Many don't. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 Rosanne DiMesio <dimesio(a)earthlink.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|--- |FIXED Status|NEW |RESOLVED Fixed by SHA1| |6aef8feeebe9d2e2d7f2e2d0cb8 | |65cd3dc9bbc35 --- Comment #10 from Rosanne DiMesio <dimesio(a)earthlink.net> --- We now have fields to collect information on the GPU manufacturer and graphics driver. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 Rosanne DiMesio <dimesio(a)earthlink.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED --- Comment #11 from Rosanne DiMesio <dimesio(a)earthlink.net> --- Closing fixed. -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16031 Matteo Bruni <matteo.mystral(a)gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alias|pilat | -- Do not reply to this email, post in Bugzilla using the above URL to reply. You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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