March 2001 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Re: wine/ dlls/x11drv/x11drv_main.c documentation/ ...
by Andreas Mohr March 23, 2001

March 23, 2001

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 06:45:46PM -0500, Alexandre Julliard wrote: > ChangeSet ID: 98539114690732747875154 > CVSROOT: /opt/cvs-commit > Module name: wine > Changes by: julliard(a)wine2. 01/03/23 18:45:46 > > Modified files: > dlls/x11drv : x11drv_main.c > documentation : wine.man.in > documentation/samples: config > graphics/x11drv: xfont.c > include : options.h x11drv.h > misc : options.c > windows : dce.c win.c > windows/x11drv : event.c wnd.c > > Log message: > Cleanup properly on x11drv unloading. > Moved --synchronous option into config file. > Removed --desktop, --display and --language command-line options. Huh ?? Why would you consider --desktop to be "obsolete" ? Andreas Mohr

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Re: Handling overlapping buffers in wcstombs_sbcs
by Alexandre Julliard March 23, 2001

March 23, 2001

Fran=E7ois Gouget <fgouget(a)codeweavers.com> writes: > Actually the documentation specifies that WideCharToMultiByte (cal= led > by ConvertVersionInfo32To16) fails if the source and destination > pointers are the same. But it does not specify what happens if the > buffers merelyt overlap. And of course in the ConvertVersionInfo32To16 > case there's a 2 byte difference between them! Then ConvertVersionInfo32To16 is broken; WideCharToMultiByte does not support overlapping buffers. > I'm not really convinced by the loop unrolling but I tried to keep= it > anyway. I just modified it a bit. If someone's interested in doing > actual performance tests, wants to look at the assembly or knows how > manual loop unrolling must be done, go ahead. You know, I did exactly that (looking at the assembly and running performance tests) when implementing it; it may be possible to improve it more by optimizing CPU pipelines usage, which is something I don't know too much about. But I strongly doubt you can improve it by only looking at the C source... --=20 Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Re: [PATCH] Add Callback for wavemapper -> widOpen
by Alexandre Julliard March 22, 2001

March 22, 2001

"James Hatheway" <james(a)macadamian.com> writes: > Changelog: > James Hatheway - james(a)macadamian.com > widOpen in the wavemapper should use a callback. It doesn't seem right to use winmm internal structures here. Are you sure this is the right way to do it? -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Re: Nasty Wine/kernel bug, anyone?
by Alexandre Julliard March 22, 2001

March 22, 2001

lawson_whitney(a)juno.com writes: > Or is this a different glibc bug? Yes, it's apparently a bug in reference counting when freeing libraries; since we never free our libraries at the moment, we haven't run into this one yet. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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problems compiling mfc with winelib
by Doug Alcorn March 22, 2001

March 22, 2001

I have a small apps with only about half a dozen dialogs. It was originally developed in MS-DevStudio. Our desire is to use the same code between MS-Windows and Linux/Unix using the winelib. This app is derived from CWinApp and uses mfc for all the widgets. I'm told it would take too much effort to redo the app without mfc (I'm not a windows programmer, and don't know much about all that). So, my assumption based on reading winehq.com is that I need to compile the mfc using winelib. I got all the code over to my linux box and converted all the files/directories to lowercase only. I got the mfc, atl, and some other include directory that was under "Program Files/Visual Studio/VC98" (or something similar). I ran winemaker on the mfc directory and successfully got the configure script built. The problem is getting the make files built. I had to define both CFLAGS and CPPFLAGS "-D_WIN32 -DWIN32 -D_WINDOWS -D_MBSC" in the environment. Here's my configure line: $ ./configure --with-win=/path/to/wine/sources --with-atl-includes=/path/to/atl/includes --with-mfc-includes=/path/to/parent/of/mfc/includes It goes allong pretty well until it checks for afx.h. That's when it bombs majorly. I get pages and pages of compile time errors in the config.log. Lots of parse errors, syntax errors, scoping errors, redifinitions... lots of stuff. Am I right that I have to compile mfc? Is this something that most developers using winelib to compile windows programs do? Are there instructions for doing so? At this point I'm totally stumped. I'm not about to start debugging mfc. I'll re-write the app before I do that. What is the suggested course of action? -- (__) Doug Alcorn <doug(a)lathi.net> http://www.lathi.net oo / PGP 02B3 1E26 BCF2 9AAF 93F1 61D7 450C B264 3E63 D543 |_/ If you're a capitalist and you have the best goods and they're free, you don't have to proselytize, you just have to wait.

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Re: Port to OS/390 mainframe USS?
by James Hatheway March 22, 2001

March 22, 2001

Hello James, > I am not real clear about the difference between the PE loader and the > WINELIB, but then, I am also unclear as to why my user would want to run a > Windows app on the mainframe in the first place. Sorry, I should have been a bit more descriptive with my answer. The PE loader is used to run executable files that were compiled to be executed in Windows/intel environment (standard windows apps). It handles the 'magic' of loading a windows executable including the necessary dependecy checking, dynamic link library loading, etc. Once the executable is loaded and all dependecies to DLLs resolved and loaded the program is started and runs with the same intel code that would have executed in windows. Whenever the app makes a call to a Windows API function, the code actually is handled by WINE code (or the native windows DLLs if that is the user's configuration) That is why WINE is not an 'emulator' rather a reimplementation of the Windows API. That is also why it is tied to the intel platform, since it is still directly executing intel code. Since WINE is comprised mainly of a reimplementation of the Windows API, it can also be used as a porting library for application developers. WineLib allows a developer to recompile his Windows source so that it will run on other unix platforms (including other CPU architectures than intel). The problem is that not as much work goes into the WineLib side of WINE than does go into the mainstream WINE side of things. My understanding is that WineLib has been built on Solaris/Sparc, powerpc, and s390 with varying degrees of success. Also I don't know if the patches that got these platforms to build are actually in the main CVS tree. Searches through past WineHQ discussions can bring up the names of those who worked on this stuff. So, unless your user has access to the source code to his app, he can't use WINE to run his app on the S390. I'm not sure if WineLib has advanced enough to support his app on the S390, and in fact Wine itself might not support his app on intel either, that is a case by case thing. (although WINE works quite well for a lot of apps) Finally I have no idea why a user would want to run a windows app on a s390. ^_^ > Is there someone at Ulrich that I should be talking to? Ulrich is a person: Ulrich Weigand. He subscribes to the mailing list so I am sure he saw your message. You can get his email address from the mail list archives. -James -- James Hatheway Software Designer - Macadamian Technologies, Inc. james(a)macadamian.com ~ http://www.macadamian.com "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier" "One could be happy if the air were as pure as the beer"

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Re: Nasty Wine/kernel bug, anyone?
by Steve Fox March 21, 2001

March 21, 2001

> Could you check in which kernel routine the process is blocked? > (e.g. using ps -Ao pid,wchan) Running 'ps -Ao pid,wchan' shows that all the processes in uninterruptible sleep are in the do_exit routine. >> Because the process is already gone, I can't strace or gdb it. > > What do you mean 'the process is already gone'? Could it be that > ptrace doesn't work because the Wine server has already attached > to that client process? I am unable to attach to it with gdb either. I get the error: Attaching to program: /opt/notes5/wine/bin/wine, Pid 22018 ptrace: Operation not permitted. > Steve, is VFAT also involved in your case? Only ext2 here. Steve Fox IBM Linux Technology Center http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux http://stevefx.rchland.ibm.com (IBM Intranet)

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Port to Sparc64
by Jutta Wrage March 21, 2001

March 21, 2001

Hi! What about the suggested port to Sparc? Did anybody work on that again? There was a question in the Wine-HOWTO mailing list. cu Jutta -- http://www.witch.westfalen.de/ Wine-HOWTO http://www.la-sorciere.de/wine/

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any questions?
by Natanael Copa March 21, 2001

March 21, 2001

Hi! David A. Solomon, the author of "Inside MS Windows 2000", is comming for a seminar 2-3 April here in Oslo. He is a friend of one of mine friends so I got a free ride. I am not envolved in the wine development (I would love to if I had the time) and I don't have any experience with the win32 API or any windows programming. But when I got this invitation my first thought was you guys, who develop wine. So if anyone want me to ask him about anyhing about windows and the win32 API, I would love to so. David is an expert when it comes to win32 API and he has the source codes for windows. http://solsem.com Best Regards, Natanael Copa

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Port to OS/390 mainframe USS?
by James.Robinson＠crowley.com March 21, 2001

March 21, 2001

Will there be a port of WINE to OS/390 mainframe USS? LINUX runs fine under USS, so it would seem that WINE should run there as well. Has anyone done this yet? Thanks James Robinson james.robinson(a)crowley.com

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any questions?
by Natanael Copa March 21, 2001

March 21, 2001

Hi! David A. Solomon, the author of "Inside MS Windows 2000", is comming for a seminar 2-3 April here in Oslo. He is a friend of one of mine friends so I got a free ride. I am not envolved in the wine development (I would love to if I had the time) and I don't have any experience with the win32 API or any windows programming. But when I got this invitation my first thought was you guys, who develop wine. So if anyone want me to ask him about anyhing about windows and the win32 API, I would love to so. David is an expert when it comes to win32 API and he has the source codes for windows. http://solsem.com Best Regards, Natanael Copa

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Re: Allow loading of built-in dlls with LOAD_LIBRARY_AS_DATAFILE flag set
by Alexandre Julliard March 20, 2001

March 20, 2001

"Dmitry Timoshkov" <dmitry(a)sloboda.ru> writes: > Does the attached patch look as applicable? Yep, looks good. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Re: x11drv patch
by lawson_whitney＠juno.com March 20, 2001

March 20, 2001

On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Ove Kaaven wrote: > Here's some more x11drv code... in addition to the HAL bits, it adds some > gamma control stuff, so we can implement Get/SetDeviceGammaRamp (in GDI). > > Log: > Ove Kaaven <ovek(a)transgaming.com> > Added gamma ramp code to the XVidMode interface. Good day! I think this misses x11ddraw.h. At least, I don't have it. xvidmode.c:16: x11ddraw.h: No such file or directory I will find it though. Lawson ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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wine: debugtools.c:210: wine_dbg_vprintf: Assertion failed
by Dmitry Timoshkov March 20, 2001

March 20, 2001

Hello all. I have this very strange situation: Debugging with +relay,+win,+region,+message has revealed: ... Call user32.18: CallNextHookEx(4b483218,00000000,00000001,405a3f40) ret=3d1010fe fs=008f Ret user32.18: CallNextHookEx() retval=00000000 ret=3d1010fe fs=008f trace:message:SPY_EnterMessage (0000565c) {Static} message [0087] WM_GETDLGCODE sent from self wp=00000000 lp=00000000 trace:relay:WINPROC_CallWndProc (wndproc=0x40619540,hwnd=0000565c,msg=WM_GETDLGCODE,wp=00000000,lp=00000000) trace:relay:WINPROC_CallWndProc (wndproc=0x40619540,hwnd=0000565c,msg=WM_GETDLGCODE,wp=00000000,lp=00000000) retval=00000100 trace:message:SPY_ExitMessage (0000565c) {Static} message [0087] WM_GETDLGCODE returned 00000100 wine: debugtools.c:210: wine_dbg_vprintf: Assertion `ret < sizeof(info->output) - (info->out_pos - info->output)' failed. err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection Critical section 0x40685190 wait timed out, retrying (60 sec) fs=0287 It seemed to be as libc bug and I have upgraded my stock rh 6.2 from ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2 to the latest available glibc-2.1.3-22.i386.rpm and glibc-devel-2.1.3-22.i386.rpm. But nothing has changed. Any suggestions?

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Re: Allow loading of built-in dlls with LOAD_LIBRARY_AS_DATAFILE flag set
by Alexandre Julliard March 20, 2001

March 20, 2001

Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry(a)sloboda.ru> writes: > Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry(a)codeweavers.com> > Allow loading of built-in dlls with LOAD_LIBRARY_AS_DATAFILE flag set. I think it would be better to keep the existing support for native dlls, and simply fall back to loading the builtin library if SearchPath fails. It's unlikely we are ever going to support proper LOAD_LIBRARY_AS_DATAFILE for builtin dlls anyway. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Re: Allow loading of built-in dlls with LOAD_LIBRARY_AS_DATAFILE flag set
by Alexandre Julliard March 19, 2001

March 19, 2001

"Dmitry Timoshkov" <dmitry(a)sloboda.ru> writes: > Perhaps version.dll code should use DONT_RESOLVE_DLL_REFERENCES instead of > undesirable LOAD_LIBRARY_AS_DATAFILE? Not necessarily, it may be considered a feature to load version info from the native dll, even though the actual code will run from the builtin. This may help programs believe they got the exact version they wanted (since presumably the app installed the dll in the first place). > Will DONT_RESOLVE_DLL_REFERENCES work with built-in dlls somewhere in the future? Unlikely; the problem is that we cannot prevent constructors from running, and we need to resolve imports before running constructors. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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Re: Allow loading of built-in dlls with LOAD_LIBRARY_AS_DATAFILE flag set
by Alexandre Julliard March 19, 2001

March 19, 2001

"Dmitry Timoshkov" <dmitry(a)sloboda.ru> writes: > But here is a problem. This doesn't honor a load order. If load order > of a requested dll explicitly specified as 'builin' but 'native' library > there is somewhere in the path, then we will get unexpected result. > How to cope with it? I think it's reasonable to give the native dll priority when doing LOAD_LIBRARY_AS_DATAFILE. An app using this wants to poke inside the dll binary file and we are much better off giving it the 'real' thing in this case IMO. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

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fixme:win32:DeviceIoControl Unimplemented control 104 for VxD device SECPROV
by Achilleas Mantzios March 19, 2001

March 19, 2001

Does anyone have a clue??? P.S. You have done serious job :) i wanna say. -- Á÷éëëÝáò ÌÜíôæéïò Application Developer Eurisko A.E. ÐéíäÜñïõ 9 106 71 ÁèÞíá Ôçë: +301 3633362 Öáî: +301 3633074 e-mail: achilleas.mantzios(a)eurisko.gr

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Re: RFC: client side implementation of async I/O
by Mike McCormack March 18, 2001

March 18, 2001

Hi All, WWW reported that my client side async patch relies on the service thread... sorry for not clearly explaining, but it doesn't. It works by multiplexing the server's wait reponse fd with pending i/o operation fds using poll. When i have time, i'll try to clean it up a bit. Currently i'm working on a kernel patch to help implement other WaitCommEvent flags. i hope Alexandre considers applying the client side async patch in some form. Mike ------------------------------------------ mailto:Mike_McCormack(a)looksmart.com.au ph +82 16 430 0425 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free web email at http://www.looksmart.com.au LookSmart Australia

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Re: Menu crash - was : Re: [PATCH] Version info for comctl32.dll
by gerard patel March 18, 2001

March 18, 2001

At 11:44 PM 17/03/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Strange but true. I reverted the patch, and alt-b beeps but does not >cause a crash. With the patch in, wine crashes without a beep. > >Now I guess I'll put it back in. It doesn't cripple me if wine crashes >when I fat-finger the GUI. I guess wine-devel doesn't want to see a >trace, and maybe you don't either, but if you do it will save time to >send it. I had left out some cases in my first try :/, but maybe it's better to understand firsst what the app is doing. Could you send me a complete (from start) +relay,+menu trace of your app crashing with current Wine (no copy to wine-devel is best in this case) If you can apply the following patch to enhance trace first : --- menu.c.orig Sun Mar 18 10:18:31 2001 +++ menu.c Sun Mar 18 11:28:29 2001 @@ -1852,6 +1852,7 @@ LPWSTR prevText = IS_STRING_ITEM(item->fType) ? item->text : NULL; debug_print_menuitem("MENU_SetItemData from: ", item, ""); + TRACE("flags=%x str=%p\n", flags, str); if (IS_STRING_ITEM(flags)) { @@ -4511,6 +4512,9 @@ { if (!menu) return FALSE; + debug_print_menuitem("MENU_SetItemInfo_common from: ", menu, ""); + TRACE("mask=%x type=%x text=%p\n", lpmii->fMask, lpmii->fType, lpmii->dwTypeData); + if (lpmii->fMask & MIIM_TYPE ) { /* Get rid of old string. */ if ( IS_STRING_ITEM(menu->fType) && menu->text) { @@ -4589,7 +4603,7 @@ if (lpmii->fMask & MIIM_DATA) menu->dwItemData = lpmii->dwItemData; - debug_print_menuitem("SetMenuItemInfo_common: ", menu, ""); + debug_print_menuitem("SetMenuItemInfo_common to : ", menu, ""); return TRUE; } Thanks. Gerard

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Menu crash - was : Re: [PATCH] Version info for comctl32.dll
by gerard patel March 17, 2001

March 17, 2001

At 10:26 PM 16/03/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >On a related note, I provoked that crash in menu.c again, this time by >hitting an accelerator key (?) for a button that was not enabled at the >time. First thanks for the bug report. The trace is not difficult to read, the menu item is a text item and the text pointer is NULL. MENU_CalcItemSize is not handling this case. What is strange is this problem appears only with my patch. Maybe your app is really initializing the menu when receiving the WM_INITMENU message, but *only* when there is need to display the menu. I can't see how it could find out about it, though. Anyway, could you try the following patch ? It tries to remove the main case I saw where the app can set a menu item to text type with a null text pointer. It is a legitimate patch by itself, even if it does not fix your problem. Maybe it could have nasty side effects. If it avoids the systematic crash, try to find if the other is really gone for good too. I have found a strangeness in the HEAP_strdup macros - WARNING - this is of interest to anyone dabbling with Wine code. While HEAP_strdupW and HEAP_strdupAtoW appear very similar, the specs are not the same; one returns a null pointer when called with a null pointer, the other allocates 2 bytes of memory and returns a pointer to it. Nice trap :-) Gerard --- menu.c.orig Wed Mar 14 20:19:46 2001 +++ menu.c Sat Mar 17 14:47:30 2001 @@ -4524,11 +4524,15 @@ menu->text = lpmii->dwTypeData; - if (IS_STRING_ITEM(menu->fType) && menu->text) { - if (unicode) - menu->text = HEAP_strdupW(GetProcessHeap(), 0, lpmii->dwTypeData); - else - menu->text = HEAP_strdupAtoW(GetProcessHeap(), 0, (LPSTR)lpmii->dwTypeData); + if (IS_STRING_ITEM(menu->fType)) { + if (menu->text) { + if (unicode) + menu->text = HEAP_strdupW(GetProcessHeap(), 0, lpmii->dwTypeData); + else + menu->text = HEAP_strdupAtoW(GetProcessHeap(), 0, (LPSTR)lpmii->dwTypeData); + } + else + menu->fType |= MF_SEPARATOR; } }

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Re: [PATCH] Version info for comctl32.dll
by gerard patel March 17, 2001

March 17, 2001

At 10:10 AM 15/03/2001 +0800, you wrote: >I thought that include/wine/wine_common_ver.rc will serve as the quite reasonable >defaults for all built-in Wine dlls. If not, it should be changed for ALL dlls >in ONE place. Getting the common controls to the 4.72 version at least is the *whole* purpose of the patch. There are applications testing the version number of the common controls - tons of them : all the apps written with modern Borland tools. Their behaviour change accordingly because Ms changed things quite a lot with 4.72. Wine does not emulate the old behaviour, so it's needed to return a recent version number to get some apps to work correctly. Unless the version number of winsock.dll, richedit.dll, version.dll, or unrelated dlls like that is always identical to the version number of common controls ? I did not check but that seems unlikely. >1. I believe that version numbers should be equal in both numerical field and >in the string value (0.01 != 4.72 and 1.00 != 4.72). >2. There is no need for excessive \000 at the end of the string value. >3. All well behaving programs do read "VarFileInfo"/"Translation" before >retrieving other version information. LANGUAGE does nothing here. >4. Did you try to use my sample application showing version info? >5. Version resources in kernel, user, gdi for both 16 and 32-bit dlls could serve >as an example of adding version resources into built-in dlls. Well, all right I'll do like it's done in include/wine. I did not search far enough, I used the file in commdlg as an example :-) I found another problem you missed btw, there is a special function to retrieve the dll version directly, it returns hard coded values; I'll add code to retrieve these from the resource. Gerard

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Re: [PATCH] Version info for comctl32.dll
by gerard patel March 16, 2001

March 16, 2001

At 08:54 PM 15/03/2001 -0500, you wrote: <snip> >for its version info and gets the builtin. The ver trace looks a little >strange to me - maybe it will make sense to you? Do you mean a strangeness that could go away with the following patch : --- info.c.orig Fri Feb 23 21:37:15 2001 +++ info.c Fri Mar 16 10:14:19 2001 @@ -503,8 +503,15 @@ && !VersionInfoIs16( data ) ) { /* convert resource from PE format to NE format */ - ConvertVersionInfo32To16( (VS_VERSION_INFO_STRUCT32 *)data, - (VS_VERSION_INFO_STRUCT16 *)data ); + BYTE *ptemp = HeapAlloc(GetProcessHeap(), 0, datasize); + if (ptemp) + { + ConvertVersionInfo32To16( (VS_VERSION_INFO_STRUCT32 *)data, + (VS_VERSION_INFO_STRUCT16 *)ptemp ); + memcpy(data, ptemp, datasize); + HeapFree(GetProcessHeap(), 0, ptemp); + + } } return TRUE; I don't think this will fix your problem, though. Gerard

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Re: [PATCH] Recalculate menus after WM_INITMENU
by lawson_whitney＠juno.com March 16, 2001

March 16, 2001

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, gerard patel wrote: > StatView (www.statview.com) menus don't work at all. > It seems that this app recreates all submenus of the > main menu in the WM_INITMENU handling. > > ChangeLog: > > * controls/menu.c > Recalculate menu sizes if WM_INITMENU has recreated/changed something > > Good day, Gerard! I have noticed a couple of crashes at controls/menu.c 872 since I applied this - when I fatfinger something in the wm (icewm) and keyboard input gets directed to a different window, but the event comes to wine, I think, but I haven't looked into it too closely and I'm not sure I can reproduce it. /* If we get here, then it must be a text item */ if (IS_STRING_ITEM( lpitem->fType )) { SIZE size; GetTextExtentPoint32W(hdc, lpitem->text, strlenW(lpitem->text), &size); and in this case lpitem is NULL and the strlen crashes. Would you be interested to see traces if I can reproduce it (if so which traces)? I think maybe it is a wm bug, but maybe wine should protect itself if it is not too expensive to do so? Lawson ---cut here ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Re: Eliminate excessive retries in GetFileVersionInfo(Size)
by lawson_whitney＠juno.com March 15, 2001

March 15, 2001

Good day! Maybe it takes a Man from Mars to think that a windose function might ought to sort of do what its name implies, but the more I think about it, wouldn't it be simpler? It is right and proper for the functions of oleaut32.dll to be performed by liboleaut32.so and friends (if the Wine administrator so directs), but if the app asks for the version info for oleaut32.dll, and the named file exists (because the app's installer _put_ that file there, in this case) how about we give it the version info from that bloody file? If the file doesn't exist, we give it a builtin construct, say. IOW, disconnect file version from dll. I don't think it is any business of the app what does its work, so I don't see why it should be able to tell by GetFileVersionInfo whether the working blah.dll is builtin or native. I guess you could make a case for a [VersionOverrides] section in the config, but I am not going to. That way lies madness. I would be willing to take a shot at writing the code if that's what we decide we want, and if no one is in a great hurry for it, but... Regards, Lawson << Sardines of the world unite! << >> You have nothing to lose but your cans. >> ---cut here ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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