October 2002 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Re: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins
by chrismorgan＠rcn.com Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

Just so people don't think the code has fallen off of the face of the planet ;-) Currently I'm working on two things with the wine jack driver , one of which needs to be complete before I submit the patch, the other can wait until some ongoing jack support is complete. 1. The driver currently closes and opens jack connections synchronously with wodOpen and wodClose. The problem is that jack doesn't actually close the clients right away, sometimes it can take many seconds for this to occur. Apparently this is a known jack bug but I'm also wondering if this is a problem in wines pthread implementation of conditions(there is no support for them right now). Either way I've implemented a workaround that basically consists of opening jack connections and marking them as in-use or available as apps open or close audio devices. This behavior can be enabled/disabled via a define in the driver. This isn't complete yet but it should be soon and would prevent the lockups and delays that currently make things a pain. 2. I don't know of an easy way to do resampling so the input audio matches the sample rate that jack expects. What I want is to be able to do something along the lines of: set_sample_rates(input_rate, jack_output_rate); set_resample_algorithm(x); /* pick a reasonable algorithm based on the current cpu and latency requirements */ And then in the callback routine something like: resample(audio_data_in, *audio_data_out); I haven't found anything even close to this simple as of yet, if anyone has any suggestions feel free to mail me about them. There is someone on the jack mailing list working on a resampling library that is supposed to be easy to use and flexable. Either way, this isn't critical although your music sounds funny if your sample rates don't line up very well ;-) Otherwise I'm also looking into a crash with using the jack driver and directsound that might be due to the client process and memory allocation. After working on the arts driver I realized that the future of audio servers really is callback based. It is quite frustrating to see so little use of jack and so much use of poor solutions like direct hardware drivers(alsa/oss) or high latency servers like artsd. No offense intended to people that work on or use either of those audio solutions, it just doesn't make sense when you want to have multiple apps outputting audio at the same time or if you need low latency(high end audio, games?, etc). I'll see what I can do to get things cleaned up and a patch submitted in the next week, conditional of course upon Alexandre accepting jack support into wine. At least now I have someone other than myself with an interest in using jack and wine together ;-) Thanks, Chris > > From: "Kjetil S. Matheussen" <k.s.matheussen(a)notam02.no> > Date: 2002/10/23 Wed PM 12:18:13 EDT > To: linux-audio-dev(a)music.columbia.edu > CC: wine-devel(a)winehq.com > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fwd: Opinions on running VST or DirectX plugins > on Linux in real time > > > > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Taybin Rutkin wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: > > > > > Could it be possible to overcome all problems mentioned just by simply > > > adding jack-support to the wine-server? Then someone could make a simple > > > windows-program for chaining directx and vst plug-ins. > > > > Someone has done this, I believe: > > http://kt.zork.net/wine/wn20021011_139.html#2 > > > Wow, it allready exist. Hey, wine-people, this driver is really needed for > real-time audio-work, and for programs as sound-editors, multitrackers > and interactive dsp programs as pd, jmax, and a lot of others. Artsd > (f.ex) is not an alternative in its current form, and probably never will > be either. Its something else. I guess Paul or some other competant person > can explain a bit more why jack is so important. > > > -- > > > > >

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Re: using native regedit
by Jeff Smith Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

I did some testing and found that *\\whatever.exe does not work, while *whatever.exe does. In case anyone thinks to themselves, "but that could cause problems for xwhatever.exe!", I tested further and found that it only affects programs with the name whatever.exe and not those such as xwhatever.exe. -- Jeff S. >We could add this to show different behaviours : > >; you can specify applications too >; This one will apply for all notepad.exe >;"*\\notepad.exe" = "native, builtin" >; This one will apply only for a particular file >;"C:\\regedit.exe" = "native, builtin" > >Is everyone ok ? _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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Fixing OLE_GetFormatW
by Medland, Bill Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

I am just about to fix OLE_GetFormatW. (As far as I can see it can't have worked since rev 1.1). Before correcting the minor error I want to check something. Can anyone with access to NT answer this for me? If you pass a format string to GetDateFormatW that contains time-formatting characters I presume it just throws them away. Similarly if you pass a format string to GetTimeFormatW that contains date-formatting characters I presume it throws them away. Bill

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fairly old wine regression: no$gmb no longer works
by Jonathan Gevaryahu Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

In wine builds from early? last year until January 29th, 2002, no$gmb (Nocash gameboy emulator) worked reasonably in wine (yes it would crash if you did 'animate trace' for too long, but that's a seperate issue). the commit which broke it was to wine/dlls/comctl32/status.c, on January 29th at 11:54 am. However, the fix that was done to status.c seems to be valid (later fixes to status.c do the same as what the fix did, I believe), so I suspect that the bug stems from some other issue which causes it to need the incorrect behavior in status.c in order to work. (personally I think it was something done during January that makes it need the incorrect status.c behavior, but I'm probably wrong) The nocash website is http://www.work.de/nocash/ or http://nocash.work.de/ Jonathan Gevaryahu

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Bug tracked down in mci.c
by Erland Lewin Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

Hello, I just got the latest wine from cvs, and it crashed when I tried to run Half Life. The problem turned out to be in mci.c, in the mciSendStringA function. The variable lpCmd is set to point into the (in my case mciavi) driver's command table, at the word "open". However, towards the end of the mciSendStringA function, there is the following code: if (strcmp(verb, "open") == 0) { if ((dwRet = MCI_FinishOpen(wmd, (LPMCI_OPEN_PARMSA)data, dwFlags))) MCI_UnLoadMciDriver(iData, wmd); /* FIXME: notification is not properly shared across two opens */ } else { dwRet = MCI_SendCommand(wmd->wDeviceID, MCI_GetMessage(lpCmd), dwFlags, (DWORD)data, TRUE); } TRACE("=> 1/ %lx (%s)\n", dwRet, lpstrRet); dwRet = MCI_HandleReturnValues(iData, dwRet, wmd, lpCmd, data, lpstrRet, uRetLen); The problem is that MCI_UnLoadMciDriver is called, which causes the driver to be removed from memory, which means that lpCmd points to invalid memory. When MCI_HandleReturnValues then tries to use its lpCmd parameter, a segmentation fault will occur, becuase it tries to read from unmapped memory. I did a quick hack to work around the problem (lpCmd = strdup( lpCmd )) before the MCI_FinishOpen. I'd appreciate it if someone else could add a better permanent fix... Thanks for the good work on Wine!

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RE: [RFC] Adding an include/wine/wine directory?
by Patrik Stridvall Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

> Actually there is a portable solution. Here's what i did when > I compiled > the Wine tests on Windows: > > Run 'vcvars32.bat' first. When you install Microsoft Visual C++ you > can either tell it to add environment variables with the useful stuff > (either in autoexec.bat or the registry for NT), or just rely on > 'vcvars32.bat'. This script is usually in the include directory: > c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\include\vcvars32.bat > > Well, so I run it on the command line and then in the > makefile (a realy > .mak file) I put: > > INCLUDE=$(TOTOP)\include;$(INCLUDE) > > Then I don't use -I at all and the compiler will automatically use the > environment variable. If using the .mak file directly from the IDE you > don't even need to run vcvars32.bat, First of all I use .dsw/.dsp files not Makefile. OK, they are sort of Makefile but not quite. Secondly the idea is that have different targets so you can easily switch between them. So that does quite cut it. > However I still had include order problems: part of the headers were > coming from MS and part from Wine but did not have time to > look into it > in detail. So I ended up extracting the tests from the Wine > tree. But if > you are able to avoid the header mixup then the above could work. As Alexandre suggested I copied the needed header files. It work eventhough it is a little kludgy. Oh well, it will do for now. Now I just have to properly fix all compile error instead of just kludging them...

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RE: [RFC] Adding an include/wine/wine directory?
by Patrik Stridvall Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

> Patrik Stridvall <ps(a)leissner.se> writes: > > Of course compiling every DLL with the Microsoft headers requires > > fixing all of include/wine/ but then as long as we have a solution > > when we get where eventually is good enough IMHO, doing that is no > > particular rush. Having the Wine tests work properly sooner > > rather than later is much more important though. > > I agree getting the Wine tests to work soon is important, but you > don't really need the final header organization for that; you can > easily work around the current problem by copying files around or > specifying an absolute -I option. True. I have already done so. It works. Patch posted to wine-patches. > I don't think we have found a fully satisfying solution yet, and IMO > the situation will be clearer when the dll separation is finished and > the loose ends are cleaned up, so I'd prefer to wait until then to > decide on the final structure. OK. As you wish. > (And my secret hope is that by then we > will be able to switch to Subversion which should make renaming files > a lot easier; but that's another topic...) Ah, nice. :-)

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message box fix.
by Rein Klazes Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

Hi, Fix for recent Messagebox breakage. windows/ : msgbox.c In MessageBoxIndirectW call FindResourceEx with arguments in the right order. Rein. -- Rein Klazes rklazes(a)xs4all.nl

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Docu fix for builtin/native apps
by Sylvain Petreolle Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

Changelog : Added valid entries into samples/config to specify if an app should be loaded builtin or native. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com

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wine not detecting wine printers
by Dan Fer Oct. 23, 2002

Oct. 23, 2002

Has anyone tried using cups under Wine in any of the latest builds? I tried to builds from this month and none detect any printer. Is there a patch? Anything I could use to fix it? _________________________________________________________________ MSN. Más Útil Cada Día http://www.msn.es/intmap/

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