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List other downloads on winehq
by Vincent Béron鲯n April 19, 2004

April 19, 2004

Following a discussion on IRC with a new user, we probably want to list on the Download page on winehq what other packages are available on sf, besides Wine per se. Also, besides DCOM95, there are a couple other Microsoft packages that people are sometimes encouraged to install to get some functionality that Wine hasn't matched yet. Does somebody have a list of what can be found (and installed on a non-Windows platform) on Microsoft's site? Vincent

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Re: d3d8 CVS brokenness?
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith April 19, 2004

April 19, 2004

> Like several people here, I haven't been able to build from CVS for the > last few days. Maybe you haven't used -PAd when updating, or maybe you should try pulling down an entire new source tree. Or you have out of date headers. In any case whoever maintains that code will presumably read the messages on the list, and look into it. Ivan.

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Re: Widl: Conditionals, Dotted Versions, Handles
by Robert Shearman April 19, 2004

April 19, 2004

>>> Ove Kaaven <ovek(a)arcticnet.no> 04/18/04 15:25 PM >>> lør, 17.04.2004 kl. 18.53 skrev Robert Shearman: > > Hi, > > > > This patch adds support for several features I found lacking whilst > > attempting to generate headers for RPC interfaces. > > Is this needed? > > @@ -350,6 +354,7 @@ > | tSWITCHTYPE '(' type ')' { $$ = make_attrp(ATTR_SWITCHTYPE, type_ref($3)); } > | tUUID '(' aUUID ')' { $$ = make_attrp(ATTR_UUID, $3); } > | tV1ENUM { $$ = make_attr(ATTR_V1ENUM); } > + | tVERSION '(' version '.' version ')' { $$ = make_attrv2(ATTR_VERSION, $3, $5); } > | tVERSION '(' version ')' { $$ = make_attrv(ATTR_VERSION, $3); } > | tWIREMARSHAL '(' type ')' { $$ = make_attrp(ATTR_WIREMARSHAL, type_ref($3)); } > | pointer_type { $$ = make_attrv(ATTR_POINTERTYPE, $1); } > > Doesn't the "version" rule already handle this? It would appear not. The 'version' type is declared as a number further up and when it attempts to parse a dotted version it just returns 0. Rob

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Re: List other downloads on winehq
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith April 19, 2004

April 19, 2004

You don't need windows installed at all. You only need a windows license, the EULA says you must have a valid license for the computer where you're installing IE. It doesn't matter if windows is installed or not. I got this confirmed by Microsoft. Ivan.

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Re: d3d8 CVS brokenness?
by brettholcomb＠charter.net April 19, 2004

April 19, 2004

I'm not at my machine now but I tried to build CVS yesterday (see my post) and got errors with d3d undefined variables, etc. In short I couldn't build it - is this part of the same issue? > > From: Joel Konkle-Parker <jjk3(a)msstate.edu> > Date: 2004/04/19 Mon PM 03:06:43 GMT > To: wine-devel(a)winehq.com > Subject: d3d8 CVS brokenness? > > I've noticed that d3d8 has been broken the past couple days in CVS. Is > this a work in progress that'll get fixed soon, or does it need to be > looked at? > > > -- > Joel Konkle-Parker > Webmaster [Ballsome.com] > > E-mail [jjk3(a)msstate.edu] > > >

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Re: Make Unicode strings 'static const' (part 3)
by Dimitrie O. Paun April 19, 2004

April 19, 2004

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Francois Gouget wrote: > As for the previous patch it's important to check that the function does > not actually try to write to these strings. And indeed there are a few > cases where the function modifies the string, typically to change the > drive letter in strings like 'A:\'. What about a list of things that weren't "const static"-ied? Maybe we should have a policy of having such string as *always* "const static" (and maybe have puk's sparse tool warn for non conforming ones), and in places where they need to modify them, they just copy them on stack explicitly... -- Dimi.

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dcom95
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith April 19, 2004

April 19, 2004

We currently have dcom95 on the sf download page. This is a violation of the sf TOS, and a waste of bandwidth for sf. I propose we link the microsoft download page, instead of having the download on a page that should host only open source. Any objections? Ivan.

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Still trying to install ZooTycoon (demo-version)
by pvriens＠xs4all.nl April 19, 2004

April 19, 2004

Hi, I'm still trying (won't give up) to install the ZooTycoon demo from M$. Unfortunatly I've been debugging for the last weeks and cannot seem to find the cause/error/reason it fails. I'm downloading new versions from CVS daily but only seem to find other stuff :-). The installation (copying of files) stops at the point when a new background picture should be shown during the copying. I still have the feeling it all boils down to messaging. I see that all PostMessage's are done to the main thread (0009). The PeekMessage's are all done from a relevant thread, ergo : nothing found. If I look at the debug-log the only entries at the end are thousends of PeekMessage's. I also see when debugging it on windows that the PeekMessages are done from the main thread ! Does somebody have any hint how to tackle this one ? It appears that several M$ demo programs suffer the same problem, so it could be worthwile to pursue this one. Cheers, Paul.

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d3d8 CVS brokenness?
by Joel Konkle-Parker April 19, 2004

April 19, 2004

I've noticed that d3d8 has been broken the past couple days in CVS. Is this a work in progress that'll get fixed soon, or does it need to be looked at? -- Joel Konkle-Parker Webmaster [Ballsome.com] E-mail [jjk3(a)msstate.edu]

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err:clipping:CLIPPING_UpdateGCRegion hVisRgn is zero. Please report this.
by Brad Campbell April 19, 2004

April 19, 2004

G'day all, Due to restrictions in my current setup I'm not subscribed to wine-devel at the moment, please cc me. This is a longstanding bug with Word97. It exists in Crossover office 2.1.0 as well and was reported in the Codeweavers database months ago. It usually results in the "style" drop down box on the far left of the toolbar blanking it's entries. I have a pretty complex default template that has a number of styles in it that all render with funky true-type fonts. When you scroll up and down this list a couple of times, wine ceases to render the entries. It used to lock up in an endless loop somewhere, but now it bombs with the below error message. I compile from CVS a couple of times a week, and subject to time I'm happy to do anything at all to assist in debugging this if it will help someone. (I have worked around it by creating tool bars with all my styles on it so I don't have to use this box) Regards, Brad fixme:hook:NotifyWinEvent (32773,0x30035,-4,11)-stub! fixme:hook:NotifyWinEvent (32773,0x30035,-4,10)-stub! err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes fixme:hook:NotifyWinEvent (32773,0x30035,-4,9)-stub! err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes fixme:hook:NotifyWinEvent (32773,0x30035,-4,8)-stub! err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes fixme:hook:NotifyWinEvent (32773,0x30035,-4,7)-stub! err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes fixme:hook:NotifyWinEvent (32773,0x30035,-4,6)-stub! err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes fixme:hook:NotifyWinEvent (32773,0x30035,-4,5)-stub! err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes fixme:hook:NotifyWinEvent (32773,0x30035,-4,4)-stub! err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes fixme:hook:NotifyWinEvent (32773,0x30035,-4,3)-stub! err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 116 bytes fixme:hook:NotifyWinEvent (5,0x10022,-3,0)-stub! fixme:ole:I_RpcWindowProc (0x10026,0000001c,00000000,00000000): stub err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 28 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 28 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 28 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 28 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 28 bytes err:local:LOCAL_GetBlock not enough space in GDI heap 10c7 for 28 bytes err:clipping:CLIPPING_UpdateGCRegion hVisRgn is zero. Please report this.

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Re: Installing DCOM98 with latest CVS
by pvriens＠xs4all.nl April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

Went back to the new implementation of GetDiskFreeSpace*. This gives me the following tracing after starting 'wine dcom98.exe' with full tracing on: 0009:Call kernel32.GetDiskFreeSpaceA(00000000,406cfc40,406cfc38,406cfc3c,406cfc28) ret=01004f8a 0009:trace:volume:GetDiskFreeSpaceA (null),0x406cfc40,0x406cfc38,0x406cfc3c,0x406cfc28 0009:trace:volume:GetDiskFreeSpaceW (null),0x406cfc40,0x406cfc38,0x406cfc3c,0x406cfc28 0009:Call ntdll.RtlDosPathNameToNtPathName_U(4039d540 L"\\",406cf770,00000000,00000000) ret=40340d1e 0009:trace:file:RtlDosPathNameToNtPathName_U (L"\\",0x406cf770,(nil),(nil)) 0009:trace:file:RtlGetFullPathName_U (L"\\" 520 0x406cf488 (nil)) 0009:trace:heap:RtlAllocateHeap (0x401a0000,00000002,00000018): returning 401d6b70 0009:trace:file:RtlDosPathNameToNtPathName_U At the end, returning TRUE 0009:Ret ntdll.RtlDosPathNameToNtPathName_U() retval=00000001 ret=40340d1e 0009:Call ntdll.NtOpenFile(406cf7e8,00000000,406cf778,406cf768,00000000,00000021) ret=40340d74 0009:trace:ntdll:NtCreateFile handle=0x406cf7e8 access=00000000 name=L"\\??\\E:\\" objattr=00000040 root=(nil) sec=(nil) io=0x406cf768 alloc_size=(nil) attr=00000000 sharing=00000000 disp=1 options=00000021 ea=(nil).0x00000000 0009:trace:heap:RtlAllocateHeap (0x401a0000,00000002,00000128): returning 401d9ff0 0009:trace:heap:RtlFreeHeap (0x401a0000,00000002,401d9ff0): returning TRUE 0009:warn:ntdll:NtCreateFile L"\\??\\E:\\" not found (c000003a) Hope this helps someone with better understanding of the code. Cheers, Paul.

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Re: dinput/joystick_linuxinput #2
by Christoph Frick April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 09:37:07PM +0200, Christoph Frick wrote: *sic* stupid brain... License: LGPL > - added code to have the joystick state be set to the assumed center > values of the joystick mapped to the range the application wants them > - generate events after setting the apropiate values in This->js > - replaced magic ints with defines from linux/input.h > - removed mapping code that generated wrong values for axes, that have > the center on the min or max -- cu

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Re: GetModuleFileName
by Juan Lang April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

Alexandre wrote: > I doubt it fills the buffer with nulls if it is too > large though, so strncpy is probably not the right > thing to use here (in fact strncpy is almost always > the wrong function to use, we should probably have > a janitorial task to fix this everywhere). What is the right thing? strlcpy? --Juan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25� http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash

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Re: Add a win32 hello world program
by Alexandre Julliard April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

Mike Hearn <mike(a)navi.cx> writes: > Mike Hearn <mike(a)navi.cx> > Add a win32 hello world program which sets up a simple window and runs > the message loop. This can be used as a starting point for test programs. I think we have already enough small winelib apps that can be used as starting points, like winver or winepath. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org

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Re: GetModuleFileName
by Alexandre Julliard April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

Eric Pouech <pouech-eric(a)wanadoo.fr> writes: > Interestingly enough, GetModuleFileName[AW] doesn't '\0'-terminate the > buffer if it is too small > Our current implementation was terminating the buffer. > This patch fixes this, and adds a test case for that behavior and > patches all the places in wine which are potentially impacted by it I doubt it fills the buffer with nulls if it is too large though, so strncpy is probably not the right thing to use here (in fact strncpy is almost always the wrong function to use, we should probably have a janitorial task to fix this everywhere). -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org

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Re: dlls/kernel/console.c::SetConsoleCtrlHandler() cleanup/fixup
by Alexandre Julliard April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

Peter Riocreux <par+wine_devel(a)silistix.com> writes: > It gives every impression of working for me, but I have only tested it > with one application. > > Suggestions for better extended error codes appreciated. Error codes should not be based on suggestions, what you should do is write a small test program under Windows to find out the real codes. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org

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Re: msvcrt
by Uwe Bonnes April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

>>>>> "Eric" == Eric Pouech <pouech-eric(a)wanadoo.fr> writes: Eric> I was about to implement the fd inheritance in msvcrt, when I came Erich, the attachment seems broken again... -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

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Re: List other downloads on winehq
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

> Internet Explorer ..... Installing IE requires a windows license for the computer where you're installing it. This sort of restricts it's use with wine. Ivan.

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arch tip #2
by Mike Hearn April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

Hi everyone, I just checked in a new update to the genpatch script. It can now send an email to wine-patches automatically given a set of local changesets. Use it like this: ./genpatch -m 5 6 7 if you did three commits, patch-5, patch-6 and patch-7 and want to send them all to wine-patches as one email. The log message and summary of the first patch will be used, and all three patches will be combined into one. You get to edit the email before it's sent and will be asked for confirmation, so you can read it over one last time. By default it will send mail to localhost - if you don't want to setup sendmail you can have "export GENPATCH_RELAY=smtp.myisp.com" in your shell init scripts to make it use a different mail relay. So in summary, development on a series of related improvements to wine goes like this: (setup arch and checkout the cvs gateway tree) ./branch some-branch cd .. cd some-branch tla make-log (make some changes, noting what they are in the arch-created log file as you go) tla commit * committed whoever(a)where-ever.org--2004/wine--some-branch--0.9--patch-2 tla make-log (more changes) tla commit * committed whoever(a)where-ever.org--2004/wine--some-branch--0.9--patch-3 ./merge (this brings your tree up to date with winehq, only bother if you think there has been enough drift to make it worthwhile) ./genpatch -m 2 3 (read generated email, to confirm delete the first line + save + quit) thanks -mike

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Security of WINE and ReactOS: was Documents and settings
by Steven Edwards April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

Hello Alex, I am going to drag this semi-off topic for a bit while I plant some ideas in people heads. --- Aleksey Bragin <aleksey(a)studiocerebral.com> wrote: > If ROS will support (and I bet it will!) NT 4.0 security model (or, > better, > Win2k then) it would be just great! > Certainly people with deeper knowledge of this security model + > knowledge of > unix and also linux implementation model can specify the differences, > and > what's missing in them. Note I only know a little about the Local Securty Authority but I think its not going to be to hard to implement if Wine and ReactOS work together on it. /me just doubts how much he can write. The unix security design of users and groups with permissions is not bad its just outdated. The nice thing about Unix is adding new security modules via PAM is not to bad except they are only for authentication. The unix concept of groups, users and permissions needs to be moved forward about 20 years. The SELinux stuff has really helped alot in this regard. (Please dont flame its the truth) I recently addressed this in a discussion about ReactOS. Currently our lsass does not exist. I think we have what we have parts of the security reference monitor already implemented in ntoskrnl and most of the parts are there for winlogon and the SAM database so we need to develop the lsass services and build out the authentaticaion modules for MSV1_0 auth. One of the nice things about the design of the Windows security module is that we can make plugins at both ends so that users can be granted access either based on a "domain" concept in winlogin/Gina using plugins for LDAP and PAM or via the lsass so users can be authencated locally. It would be nice if we could work with the Winehq people on this as I think we can share the parts of the security subsystem that reside in lsass. Think of it like this (Kernel support) wineserver/ntosknrl need to both implement the security refernce montior for privlaged use of the local system resources. I dont know how much of this wineserver really needs to take in to account in the initial incarnation. (Local security subsystem) Lsass works interactivly with services and the login system and can accept all sorts of nice plugins so we are not limited to just the standard Windows authentication. As a matter of fact you could replace large parts of they authentication system if you are supper paronoid. Think of lsass as the sentry for Windows. It talks to the SRM to make sure you are not doing anything you shouldnt be. (User interaction) Interaction with the user will come from Winlogon on ReactOS or on Unix the user should already be authenticated via Linux security. This can of course be done via the authentication modules described above. Once the user I wish I could attach the nice chart from Inside Windows NT so you could see the security subsystem. Its quite a piece of work and is quite a shame Windows security gets a bad name due to slack administrators. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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Installing DCOM98 with latest CVS
by pvriens＠xs4all.nl April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

Hi, I was trying to install dcom98.exe with the latest CVS and run into several errors ranging from file-not-found errors upto problems with getting the free diskspace of drives. Tracing showed (amongst others): trace:file:GetLongPathNameW L"E:\\TOOLS",0x406cf144,1024 trace:file:RtlDosPathNameToNtPathName_U (L"E:\\TOOLS",0x406cde4c,0x406cde54,(nil)) trace:file:RtlGetFullPathName_U (L"E:\\TOOLS" 520 0x406cdc08 0x406cde54) trace:file:RtlDosPathNameToNtPathName_U At the end, returning TRUE trace:file:GetLongPathNameW not found L"E:\\TOOLS"! so we didn't get an handle from RtlDosPathNameToNtPathName_U ! After some extra tracing I decided to revert some patches and got this installation working after reverting the following patches: http://cvs.winehq.org/cvsweb/wine/dlls/kernel/volume.c.diff?r1=1.7&r2=1.8 log : Reimplemented GetDiskFreeSpaceW and GetDiskFreeSpaceExW http://cvs.winehq.org/cvsweb/wine/dlls/kernel/change.c.diff?r1=1.4&r2=1.5 log : Make FindFirstFileExW and FindFirstChangeNotificationW use NtOpenFile directly http://cvs.winehq.org/cvsweb/wine/files/drive.c.diff?r1=1.114&r2=1.115 log : Reimplemented GetDiskFreeSpaceW and GetDiskFreeSpaceExW I will investigate further, but just to let you know. I didn't try other programs. Everything done on a clean non-windows installation. Cheers, Paul.

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Re: Widl: Conditionals, Dotted Versions, Handles
by Ove Kaaven April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

lør, 17.04.2004 kl. 18.53 skrev Robert Shearman: > Hi, > > This patch adds support for several features I found lacking whilst > attempting to generate headers for RPC interfaces. Is this needed? @@ -350,6 +354,7 @@ | tSWITCHTYPE '(' type ')' { $$ = make_attrp(ATTR_SWITCHTYPE, type_ref($3)); } | tUUID '(' aUUID ')' { $$ = make_attrp(ATTR_UUID, $3); } | tV1ENUM { $$ = make_attr(ATTR_V1ENUM); } + | tVERSION '(' version '.' version ')' { $$ = make_attrv2(ATTR_VERSION, $3, $5); } | tVERSION '(' version ')' { $$ = make_attrv(ATTR_VERSION, $3); } | tWIREMARSHAL '(' type ')' { $$ = make_attrp(ATTR_WIREMARSHAL, type_ref($3)); } | pointer_type { $$ = make_attrv(ATTR_POINTERTYPE, $1); } Doesn't the "version" rule already handle this?

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Re: List other downloads on winehq
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

> Does somebody have a list of what can be > found (and installed on a non-Windows platform) on Microsoft's site? It's not a complete list, but I've got the following links vb runtime http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=bf9a24f9-b5c5-48f4… the windows installer for win9x http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=cebbacd8-c094-4255… the windows installer for winnt/2k http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=4b6140f9-2d36-4977… The comctl32 dll, the eula says you can only distribute it with an app that runs on windows, but it also says you can use it, and doesn't say that to do so you need a windows license (The eula is the same one you get with the sdk), so it's ok to use it on wine. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6f94d31a-d1e0-4658… gdi+ components, same license as comctl32 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=bfc0b436-9015-43e2… CAPICOM.DLL http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=860ee43a-a843-462f… ShFolder DLL http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6ae02498-07e9-48f1… I think all these windows components can be used without problems on wine, but probably winehq can't redistribute any of them. BTW, we have dcom95 on the sourceforge page, this is a violation of the sf TOS, wouldn't it be a good idea to link to the microsoft dcom95 download page instead? Like this we'll user their bandwidth, and save a little for sf.net. Ivan.

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Re: (no subject)
by Ivan Leo Murray-Smith April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

> If not, I would like to give it a try, but I need some > documentation c.q. information on the functionallity > of these functions /what they do etc http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winsock/wi… Ivan.

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Change to CompareStringW introduced regression in QuArK (bug #2159)
by David Costanzo April 18, 2004

April 18, 2004

I have been investigating a regression in the functionality of QuArK, a popular level editor for Quake. The regression is filed as bug #2159. I have identified the cause of the regression as changes made to CompareStringW from revision 1.25 to revision 1.26 of wine/dlls/kernel/locale.c. I do not know how to proceed from here. The relevant modification is changing CompareStringW from calling strncmpiW/strncmpW to calling wine_compare_string. I hacked my code to call both the new and old version and print out whenever the two return different values. Calling wine_compare_string seems to have changed the behavior of comparing strings that have accent marks with strings that don't have accent marks when the NORM_IGNORECASE flag is set. I don't understand unicode collation, nor do I know how QuArK is using CompareStringW. I don't doubt that CompareStringW should call wine_compare_string, but if this is a bug in wine_compare_string, I don't know how to fix it. Does anyone have any suggestions on what my next step should be? Thanks, David Costanzo __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25� http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash

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