August 2004 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

wine metacity and ctrl-alt-del binding - ctrl sticks
by Grant Williamson Aug. 3, 2004

Aug. 3, 2004

Curious if there is a patch somewhere for this. Running rhel3, gnome-2.2 with metacity. 1) Start notepad, type a few characters 2) hit the keyboard combination ctrl-alt-del ... "gnome-session-kill --save" is started. 3) Cancel this option. 4) Now try typing in Notepad, i.e. hit the keys "s" or "f", its just like ctrl-s or ctrl-f have been held in. 5) Hitting ctrl once cancels this. Anyone have a patch, to stop this happening?

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Re: cleanup a->w cross calls in advapi32/crypt.c
by Mike McCormack Aug. 3, 2004

Aug. 3, 2004

James Hawkins wrote: > + PWSTR keyname; > > - keyname = CRYPT_Alloc(strlen(KEYSTR) + strlen(pProvName) +1); > + keyname = CRYPT_Alloc((strlenW(KEYSTR) + strlenW(pProvName) + 1) * sizeof(WCHAR)); > if (keyname) > { > - strcpy(keyname, KEYSTR); > - strcpy(keyname + strlen(KEYSTR), pProvName); > + strcpyW(keyname, KEYSTR); > + strcpyW(keyname + strlenW(KEYSTR) * sizeof(WCHAR), pProvName); > } else > SetLastError(ERROR_NOT_ENOUGH_MEMORY); > return keyname; > } This doesn't look right.... when using pointer arithmetic, you do so in increments of the pointer's type (eg. WCHAR). The following two lines are the same, and are both wrong: strcpyW(keyname + strlenW(KEYSTR) * sizeof(WCHAR), pProvName); strcpyW(&keyname[strlenW(KEYSTR) * sizeof(WCHAR)], pProvName); The right version would be: strcpyW(&keyname[strlenW(KEYSTR)], pProvName); but how about just using: strcatW( keyname, pProvname ); Mike

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Re: cleanup a->w cross calls in advapi32/crypt.c
by Jeroen Janssen Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

James Hawkins wrote: > I'm wasn't exactly sure on this one so it would be great if you could > help me on this one. When using pointer arithmetic, do the operations > such as --, ++... increment or decrement by the size of the pointer > type? Yes, if you have a char (1byte) pointer and you ++, you'll get one byte further. If you have a short (2byte) you'll get two bytes further in memory. If you have a long (4byte) pointer, you'll get 4 bytes further in memory if you ++. It is simular to dealing with arrays (looking at the memory layout) If you have an array of structs and need to get to the next struct in the array then you will need to look sizeof(struct) further in memory to find the next item in the array. --- Jeroen

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Dynamic memory management in CryptAcquireContext
by Michael Jung Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

Alexandre, I've noticed that you applied a modified version of my patch, which tries to fix a potential double free of the "temp" variable in dlls/advapi32/crypt.c's CryptAcquireContextA function. However, I think that the modified version does not fix the problem. Here is a code snippet from the current cvs versionc of crypt.c: CRYPT_Free(temp); ... if (pProv->pFuncs->pCPAcquireContext(&pProv->hPrivate, (CHAR*)pszContainer, dwFlags, pProv->pVTable)) { ... return TRUE; } /* FALLTHROUGH TO ERROR IF FALSE - CSP internal error! */ error: ... CRYPT_Free(temp); ... return FALSE; If the CSP's CPAcquireContext function fails, which is quite common (e.g. because the user specified key container does not exist), the "temp" variable is still free'd twice. I'm aware that my original patch was pretty ugly, due to a lot of redundancy, but I think this is due to fact that the CryptAcquireContext function seems not to be very well structured. I've submitted a patch two weeks ago, which basically was a reimplementation of CryptAcquireContext, but which was not committed (http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-patches/2004/07/0213.html) Rob Shearman commented on this patch and felt that it is overkill to add both a helper function and a new struct type. Is this the reason the patch was not applied? I would be glad to rework the patch, if you give me some hints about what you did not like. However, I would prefer to wait until James Hawkins got his a->w cross call cleanup patch committed, in order not to break his work. Greetings, Michael -- Michael Jung, MSc Be liberal in what you accept, Integrated Circuits and Systems Lab and conservative in what you send. University of Technology, Darmstadt -- Jonathan Postel, Internet Pioneer phone: +49(6151)16-6692 / email: mjung(a)iss.tu-darmstadt.de

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Re: RESEND: Try to avoid loading 16-bit DLLs into memory for accessing version info
by Alexandre Julliard Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry(a)baikal.ru> writes: > Changelog: > Dmitry Timoshkov <dmitry(a)codeweavers.com> > Try to avoid loading 16-bit DLLs into memory for accessing > version info, this might lead to undesired side effects like > loading a bunch of other 16-bit DLLs. The problem I see is that this will bypass the loadorder config, and retrieve the version of the native dll in all cases. I think it would be better to try to take loadorder into account, though I admit it's not trivial to do. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org

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Anyone writing COM tests?
by Duane Clark Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

Howdy, Debugging a problem I am having in COM (mentioned a few weeks ago), I think I know what the problem is but not where. So I figured some COM test would help me to understand how things should work. I was a bit surprised to see no COM tests, or at least I didn't find any in the ole* directories. So I figured if no one else is working on them, I might take a shot at it over the next few weeks/months. And maybe this would encourage some updates to the COM implementation.

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Fwd:Advertising Enquiry
by Ivan Leo Puoti Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

Not sure if I ever forwarded this. Ivan.

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Re: Remove typelib ProxyStubClsid registration when no oleautomation interface is being registered
by Marcus Meissner Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 12:51:01PM +0200, Jeroen Janssen wrote: > This change will make sure that if a proxy/stub dll was already registered, > it is not overwritten by the TypeLib Marshaller if we're not registering > an ole automation interface. > I think we (always?) want to use a 'real' available proxy/stub > implementation when available, instead of simply 'overruling' to the > typelib marshaller. Did you verify that this patch does not break InstallShield? Ciao, Marcus

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debugging a dll
by Dan Timis Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

Hi, Someone sent me a debug version of a Windows dll and a map file. I'm not a Windows programmer, and I'm not sure how to use the map fiile. For instance, I get a runtime error dialog. With backtrace in winedbg I get this: ... 29 0x400bf58d (NTDLL.DLL.RtlRaiseException+0x5 in NTDLL.DLL) (ebp=4083f9dc) 30 0x100771e9 (LIBDEBUG.DLL.EntryPoint+0x1609 in LIBDEBUG.DLL) (ebp=4083fa1c) 31 0x10097138 (LIBDEBUG.DLL.NIUIAEntry+0x1ad8 in LIBDEBUG.DLL) (ebp=4083fa8c) 32 0x100012b2 (LIBDEBUG.DLL..text+0x2b2 in LIBDEBUG.DLL) (ebp=4083fbf8) ... I assume that everything above NTDLL.DLL.RtlRaiseException is just code to put up the dialog box, and that the problem is at 0x100771e9 (LIBDEBUG.DLL.EntryPoint+0x1609... If I look for 0x100771e9 in the map file, the closest thing I find is this: 0001:00076ed0 _realloc 10077ed0 f LIBCMTD:dbgheap.obj 0001:00076f00 __realloc_dbg 10077f00 f LIBCMTD:dbgheap.obj 0001:000774b0 __expand 100784b0 f LIBCMTD:dbgheap.obj 0001:000774e0 __expand_dbg 100784e0 f LIBCMTD:dbgheap.obj Am I correct to assume that realloc_dbg throws an exception? If I look for 0x100012b2 (LIBDEBUG.DLL..text+0x2b2), the closest I find is: 0001:000011d0 ?_Grow@?$basic_string(a)DU?$char_traits(a)D@std@@V?$allocator(a)D@2@@std@@AAE_ NI_N(a)Z... That would make sense, we are trying to grow a string, calling realloc, etc. The entry in the middle: 31 0x10097138 (LIBDEBUG.DLL.NIUIAEntry+0x1ad8 in LIBDEBUG.DLL) (ebp=4083fa8c) points to: 0001:00097140 ?onEvent(a)Application@UIA(a)NI@@MAE_NIPAVEventData(a)23@@Z ... I don't understand how this relates to the other two. Are there any tools that could help understand better what's going on? Are there any tools to demangle the C++ names? I tried c++filt and not surprisingly it did not understand these symbols. Thanks, Dan Timis Muse Research, Inc.

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Re: cleanup a->w cross calls in advapi32/crypt.c
by Dmitry Timoshkov Aug. 2, 2004

Aug. 2, 2004

"James Hawkins" <truiken(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Full rewrite. If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them. > > Changelog > * clean up cross-call functions > - strcpy(keyname, KEYSTR); > - strcpy(keyname + strlen(KEYSTR), pProvName); > + strcpyW(keyname, KEYSTR); > + strcpyW(keyname + strlenW(KEYSTR) * sizeof(WCHAR), pProvName); Why did you add '* sizeof(WCHAR)' here? > - user ? strcpy(keyname, USERSTR) : strcpy(keyname, MACHINESTR); > - ptr = keyname + strlen(keyname); > - *(--ptr) = (dwType % 10) + '0'; > - *(--ptr) = ((dwType / 10) % 10) + '0'; > - *(--ptr) = (dwType / 100) + '0'; > + user ? strcpyW(keyname, USERSTR) : strcpyW(keyname, MACHINESTR); > + ptr = keyname + strlenW(keyname) * sizeof(WCHAR); And here? Did you ever test the resulting code? -- Dmitry.

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c:\\windows is not accessible message
by Mike Hearn Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

Hi guys, It seems quite a few people have been seeing this message lately, and I'm not sure why. This occurs even with a non-existant ~/.wine directory, so wineprefixcreate should set up a correct system for them. Examples: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=204255&h… http://forums.devshed.com/archive/t-166324 This one seems to imply that the symlinks aren't being created properly: http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-users/2004/07/0022.html but that sounds like a migration issue rather than something you'd see with a clean .wine If anybody has any ideas I'd love to track this one down. I am wondering if it's to do with packaging, I have never been able to reproduce this with Wine CVS builds (ie from source) but I know some packagers are still shipping custom ~/.wine building scripts. thanks -mike

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winrash: only sleep xx commands ?
by Sylvain Petreolle Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

After a successful install of winrash with 'Usurp' as nick and this mailbox : spetreolle(a)n5o5s5p5a5m.yahoo.fr It seems that winrash is doing only sleep commands, having a look to <winrash>\debug.txt. Simulating about 27 hours of running service with some 'time' and a 'date' commands seem to produce nothing else than "sleep 3600" commands in debug.txt. Can someone help ? The service is up and running in E:\winrash. Machine: Windows XP home. Output: E:\winrash>winrash -v && winrash -q Winrash version: 'winrash-0009-chris-msvc.exe' Current script commands: 1 total commands, current command is 1 0: sleep 3600 Querying service Current state: SERVICE_RUNNING Part of debug.txt: ... c:\winrash\winrash.c:1197 01/08/2004 16:57:00 c:\winrash\winrash.c:1200 entered with currentCommandIndex of '0' c:\winrash\winrash.c:593 sleep command of 'sleep 3600' c:\winrash\winrash.c:1275 no errors in command c:\winrash\winrash.c:1775 debug file not yet large enough to clear c:\winrash\winrash.c:390 entered c:\winrash\winrash.c:441 found a clientID of 'Usurp' c:\winrash\winrash.c:443 after removing characters we have a clientID of 'Usurp' c:\winrash\winrash.c:509 built a url of 'http://test.winehq.com/service?winrash= winrash-0009-chris-msvc.exe&id=Usurp' c:\winrash\winrash.c:312 url of 'http://test.winehq.com/service?winrash=winrash- 0009-chris-msvc.exe&id=Usurp' c:\winrash\winrash.c:533 got file: sleep 3600 c:\winrash\winrash.c:534 got 11 bytes out of a total buffer of 15000 c:\winrash\winrash.c:556 Software\winrash\Command_0 c:\winrash\winrash.c:1197 01/08/2004 17:57:21 ... ===== Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle_at_users_dot_sourceforge_dot_net) Say NO to software patents Dites NON aux brevets logiciels "You believe it's the year 1984, when in fact, its closer to 2184"1984 / Matrix Vous manquez despace pour stocker vos mails ? Yahoo! Mail vous offre GRATUITEMENT 100 Mo ! Créez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.benefits.yahoo.com/ Le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger est arrivé ! Découvrez toutes les nouveautés pour dialoguer instantanément avec vos amis. A télécharger gratuitement sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com

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Program runs okay, but has tiny font.
by Niek Beernink Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

Hello all, TD in #winehq told me to post this here. I'm trying to run the following program in wine, <ftp://212.67.96.161/loaded/diablo2/utilities/runewizard101.zip> It loads up okay, but the font in the program is really tiny and I was wondering if any of you knew of a possible fix. Here's a screenshot of this happening: <http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/src/tinyfont> I'm running Gentoo Linux with Wine version 20040615. crusade omega # emerge info Portage 2.0.50-r9 (default-x86-2004.0, gcc-3.3.3, glibc-2.3.3.20040420-r0, 2.6.7-gentoo) ================================================================= System uname: 2.6.7-gentoo i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ Gentoo Base System version 1.4.16 Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.59-r3 Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.3 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" COMPILER="gcc3" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d" CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="autoaddcvs ccache sandbox" GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo" MAKEOPTS="-j2" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" PORTDIR_OVERLAY="" SYNC="rsync://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/gentoo" USE="3dnow X aalib acpi alsa avi berkdb bzlib cddb cdr cups divx4linux dvd encode ffmpeg flac foomaticdb gdbm geoip gif gstreamer gtk2 imlib java jpeg kde libwww mad memlimit mikmod mmx mpeg mpeg4 ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl operanom2 pam pdflib perl png ppds python qt quicktime readline samba sdl slang speex sse ssl svga tcpd tga theora tiff truetype usb videos x86 xml xml2 xmms xv xvid zlib" Hopefully this should be enough information. If you need to know anything else, do ask. Best regards, Niek Beernink.

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Flags for building an rpm
by Dan Timis Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

A colleague built a wine rpm a while ago. Here is the size and date: 9922591 Apr 29 14:32 wine-20040408-1muse.athlon.rpm If I look on the winehq site I see similar sizes, only slightly larger: wine-20040716-1rh8winehq.athlon.rpm 11662876 Unfortunately, my colleague is incommunicado for the next couple of weeks, and I cannot ask him how he built the rpm. I added a patch to fix the problem I reported recently in menu.c. Then, I built the rpm with the command: # rpmbuild -ba --platform athlon wine-20040408-2muse.spec Here is what I get: 85910178 Jul 29 21:25 wine-20040408-2muse.athlon.rpm This is significantly larger. I looked at the contents and the problem seems to be mainly in /usr/lib/ All files are significantly larger. What flags am I missing when I am building the rpm? Thanks, Dan Timis Muse Research, Inc.

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winrash: some todos
by Sylvain Petreolle Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

Some suggestions for winrash: * Running Windows NT version >= 4.XY, we should check for the use of an administrator account... installing as normal user gave these results : no error message said the HKLM keys couldnt be created => UserID & mail not set => service install/run fails silently * http links : the 3 http links fail to open at the end of installation, this has already been reported on wine-users list. (the mouse arrow changes though) ===== Sylvain Petreolle (spetreolle_at_users_dot_sourceforge_dot_net) Say NO to software patents Dites NON aux brevets logiciels "You believe it's the year 1984, when in fact, its closer to 2184"1984 / Matrix Vous manquez despace pour stocker vos mails ? Yahoo! Mail vous offre GRATUITEMENT 100 Mo ! Créez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.benefits.yahoo.com/ Le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger est arrivé ! Découvrez toutes les nouveautés pour dialoguer instantanément avec vos amis. A télécharger gratuitement sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: cleanup a->w cross calls in advapi32/crypt.c
by Dmitry Timoshkov Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

"James Hawkins" <truiken(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Fixed even more bugs spotted by Dmitry. > > Changelog > * cleanup cross-call functions The quality of the patch still is not good enough. -- Dmitry.

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Re: cleanup a->w cross calls in commdlg/fontdlg.c
by Dmitry Timoshkov Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

"James Hawkins" <truiken(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Changelog > * fix cross-call functions > - return DialogBoxIndirectParamA(COMDLG32_hInstance, template, > + return DialogBoxIndirectParamW(COMDLG32_hInstance, template, > lpChFont->hwndOwner, FormatCharDlgProcA, (LPARAM)lpChFont ); You can't pass a not unicode dlgproc to DialogBoxIndirectParamW and hope that it will work. -- Dmitry.

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Re: Question about mmap issues on FreeBSD/NetBSD
by Yorick Hardy Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

Try the patch below, I am not yet sure why this would be necessary. Perhaps it helps. >I've got some cross platform issues i cannot resolve. There are some >obvious issues like the assumption that round() is in the math library >and not linking in the math library itself. i've worked passed those. >Currently, I'm working with a patched version of the latest cvs source >on Solaris 9x86. After applying Robert Lunnon's patch kit to the latest >cvs course and substituting rint for the round function in >wine/dlls/dsound/mixer.c and add the math library to EXTRALIBS, I got a >clean compile. however running the wine binary results in the following: > >try_mmap_fixed: vfork: Resource temporarily unavailable > >I'm not intimately familiar with how wine manages it's memory so I >hesitate to guess what is going on. I've attached the output of the >truss if anyone has any ideas on what it going on or how to fix it >please let me know. Kind regards, -- Yorick Hardy --- libs/wine/mmap.c.orig Thu Jul 29 20:03:03 2004 +++ libs/wine/mmap.c Sun Aug 1 13:07:07 2004 @@ -135,6 +135,8 @@ has exited. Furthermore, Wine sets SIGCHLD to SIG_IGN, so we don't need to wait for the child. */ + waitpid(pid, &pagesize, 0); + return result == addr; } #endif /* (__svr4__ || __NetBSD__) && !MAP_TRYFIXED */

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Re: [RESENT] Make wine work with freedesktop.org MIME system
by Mike Hearn Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

This was checked into CVS a few days ago, no need to resend. thanks -mike On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 11:35 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote: > Mike felt good enough to explain me on IRC where I should hook into the > wine build system. I've put up a tiny patch that works like a charm with > GNOME/shared-mime-info HEAD. It associates wine with the MIME type used > for DOS/Win32 binaries. > > regs, > Chris

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Wine leaking GDI handles?
by Jon Griffiths Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

Hi, I am trying to track down some GDI leaks in a large application I am porting. To make things easier I added logging to GDI_AllocObject and GDI_FreeObject in order to find mismatches at program termination, and hacked a script to find allocations that weren't deallocated. The patch to dlls/gdi/gdiobj.c and the script used are both attached below. My first question is; Is this a valid approach to tracking leaks, or are some GDI objects deallocated in another way? i.e. Should there be a GDI_FreeObject call for every GDI_AllocObject call or not? I run this analysis by setting WINEDEBUG="+all" and executing my app redirecting the results to a file. I then run the matching script to generate a list of addresses from GDI_AllocObject that have no corresponding GDI_FreeObject, along with the line number in the trace that the allocation occurred. This produced a rather overwhelming list which has thus far enabled me to find several application bugs causing leaks. However investigating several of the calls makes me suspect that Wine itself may have some leaks. If you follow the directions above against Wines clock.exe it lists here 121 unmatched deallocations (winver has 126). Some of these are for things like stock objects which arguably aren't very important, since they are only created once. But it appears that window creation/destruction may have leaks which is of definite concern here since my app creates many windows while generating screens on the fly (I see in my app that when GetDC is called for the first time on a window, causing a CreateDCW call, a region is leaked, or at least thats what it looks like to me). I seems a good idea to attempt to diagnose the leaks on a simple program like clock/winver before trying a more complicated app. Could someone with more experience in GDI verify that these leaks are genuine? I am a little lost amongst the GDI/user code... Thanks, Jon p.s. The script below does not handle GDI realloc, but I have yet to see it in any of my traces yet. ===== "Don't wait for the seas to part, or messiahs to come; Don't you sit around and waste this chance..." - Live jon_p_griffiths(a)yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Re: cleanup a->w cross calls in advapi32/crypt.c
by Dmitry Timoshkov Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

"James Hawkins" <truiken(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Fixed more bugs spotted by Dmitry. > > Changelog > * cleanup cross-call functions If you could use 'static const' as everywhere else and not 'const static' that would be nice. > + size = sizeof(DWORD); > + r = RegQueryValueExW(key, nameW, NULL, &keytype, NULL, &size); Why did you add size initialization here? If that wasn't done before there was a reason for that. > + provNameLen = *pcbProvName * sizeof(WCHAR); > + if ( pszProvName && (str = CRYPT_Alloc(provNameLen * sizeof(WCHAR))) ) > + CRYPT_ReturnLastError(ERROR_NOT_ENOUGH_MEMORY); > + ret = CryptEnumProvidersW(dwIndex, pdwReserved, dwFlags, pdwProvType, str, &provNameLen); Remove double sizeof(WCHAR) multiplcation here and everywhere else. > - DWORD size = sizeof(DWORD); > + DWORD size = sizeof(pdwProvType); > HKEY subkey; > - if (RegEnumKeyA(hKey, dwIndex, pszProvName, *pcbProvName)) > + if (RegEnumKeyW(hKey, dwIndex, pszProvName, *pcbProvName)) RegEnumKeyW takes number of characters, not bytes. Why did you change that since your previous patch? Please read documentation first, otherwise you are wasting your and our time. -- Dmitry.

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Re: cleanup a->w cross calls in advapi32/crypt.c
by Dmitry Timoshkov Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

"James Hawkins" <truiken(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Fixed bugs spotted by Dmitry > > Changelog > * cleanup cross-call functions Still there are bugs in the patch. 1. RegQueryValueExW/RegSetValueExW take bytes in the last parameter 2. Do not use 'strlen' as a name of the variable, that at least very confusing. -- Dmitry.

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for whoever maintinas winrash
by Ivan Leo Puoti Aug. 1, 2004

Aug. 1, 2004

We've had the following complaints on wine-users. > I installed this on a windows 98se box. I can't say I like having the DOS > window open all the time (it's ugly). Can this not be written as a windows > programme, and sit in the system tray? > > Also, during the installation process, after I entered my email address, the > installer removed what it called 'invalid characters' - i.e., underscores. >All my main email addresses contain underscores, so I was forced to enter an > old one that is not very reliable. Ivan.

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