April 2009 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

IMM / IME work
by Aric Stewart June 16, 2016

June 16, 2016

Hello all, I know this will only interest a small portion of you but thought i would give a quick update on the state of IMM32 since I have brought it to a major milestone. All the main patches are in which now separate IMM32 and IMEs. There is still more work to do but the major framework is in place. X11 XIM processing should be unchanged. However wine can now begin to load native windows IMEs as well. I have tested with windows ATOK20 (a popular Japanese IME) and successfully had text processing in a fully IME aware application. There are still clear issues to resolve in many aspects of this processing but we have forward progress. ImmInstallIME does not work yet, nor does switching keyboards. So to get the native IME to work you need to add this registry key. [System\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\Keyboard Layouts\\<keyboard layout>] "Ime File"=<IME filename> so for example for ATOK20 in Japanese i used. [System\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\Keyboard Layouts\\e0010411] "Ime File"="ATOK20W.IME" I would love to hear how well things work. I am sure using native IMEs will quickly show us many places where IMM32 needs to be improved. One issues I am going to investigate next is that sometimes non x11drv ime initialization, if occurring too early, causes x11drv to fail to create windows. I have not investigated with the latest changes to xim.c (which may already correct this problem) but if you see this problem this patch may help and i believe the IME_UpdateAssociation(NULL) is already unneeded. diff --git a/dlls/winex11.drv/xim.c b/dlls/winex11.drv/xim.c index d4df9f7..0c98136 100644 --- a/dlls/winex11.drv/xim.c +++ b/dlls/winex11.drv/xim.c @@ -475,7 +475,6 @@ static void X11DRV_OpenIM(Display *display, XPointer ptr, XP XUnregisterIMInstantiateCallback(display, NULL, NULL, NULL, X11DRV_OpenIM, wine_tsx11_unlock(); IME_XIMPresent(TRUE); - IME_UpdateAssociation(NULL); } thanks, -aric

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What happened to the Fedora packages?
by Neal Gompa Aug. 2, 2014

Aug. 2, 2014

What happened to the Fedora packages? They have not been updated since 0.9.2!!!! Right now it is at 0.9.10!!! Nearly every other Linux distro supported has the up to date packages!!! And why does the Red Hat packages site not go to the SourceForge site as it does for SUSE packages and the others?? I have not really had the guts to ask until now, because I thought that maybe there was a slump, but now, its getting annoying!! And Fedora just released Fedora Core 5 yesterday!!! Please tell me new packages will be ready soon!!! Compiling WINE always crashes my computer, so I prefer to use the RPMs...

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winspool: ERROR_INVALID_NAME in GetDefaultPrinter() ?
by Detlef Riekenberg Oct. 9, 2013

Oct. 9, 2013

Hi. >From which configuration does the "ERROR_INVALID_NAME" came from, when calling GetDefaultPrinter(NULL, &size) and no Printer is installed? This Test is Present in the current "dlls/winspool/tests/info.c". MSDN told us, that we receive an "ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND", if no Printer is installed: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/gdi/prntspol_0hma.asp I get the "ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND" on win98se, winme, w2k and win2003 in this Situation. -- By By ... ... Detlef

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Wine runs IE7!
by Hans Leidekker Nov. 26, 2010

Nov. 26, 2010

Well, sort of. I found bugs in shell32, rpcrt4, comctl32 and wininet that I had to implement, stub and override my way past before it would render a page, but finally, here's the obligatory screenshot. -Hans

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meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?
by Dan Kegel Dec. 13, 2009

Dec. 13, 2009

Does "mac" mean "powerpc mac only"? I rather thought it meant "apple macintosh", regardless of cpu. I ask because Austin has just gone through and changed lots of "mac" bugs to "pc" even though the bugs were on Intel macs, which just seems wrong.

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search path redux - if office 2007 always uses a private riched20, why does wine interpose its own global one?
by Dan Kegel Oct. 18, 2009

Oct. 18, 2009

See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14980 Essentially, to run Office 2007, you have to set an override for riched20. Since Office installs a new, spiffier version of riched20 in its own private directory, and expects to find it there, isn't it a bug that we don't let it have it? Sounds like it's time to write a conformance test... sure would be nice if that override wasn't needed.

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re: Wine t-shirts?
by Dan Kegel Sept. 3, 2009

Sept. 3, 2009

Maarten wrote: > Why don't we have wine t-shirts any more? I dunno, where were they before? I just looked, couldn't find any on cafepress.com. I'd like to bring back the Codeweavers drunken penguin t-shirts, perhaps with a slightly more generic Wine design. Coincidentally, I found some site on the net had taken the logo from that shirt and erased the Crossover logo from the wine bottle; here's a cleaned-up copy: http://kegel.com/wine/wine-penguin-corkscrew.png

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DxDiag Demo Patch
by Allen Hair Aug. 15, 2009

Aug. 15, 2009

Hello Wine Developers, Over the last couple of months I have been part of a team of students at UCLA who have been developing an implementation of the DxDiag application to release with Wine. After a long quarter, we have produced a working implementation. Some of the features are still missing but most of the functionality has been completed. I hope that our work proves useful to the Wine project. Attached is a patch that will add our code to the source tree. This patch is not meant to be committed, but should provide a demonstration of the application so far. Any feedback would be appreciated, I will try to incorporate any suggestions as I work on releasing incremental patches over the next few weeks. - Allen Hair

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winequartz.drv Mac OS X UI discontinued?
by Adam Strzelecki July 11, 2009

July 11, 2009

Hi, I know that CodeWeavers supports quite nicely Mac builds of Wine, and CrossOver for Mac, yet all of them are X11. There was also once Darwine - an effort to provide Carbon Wine UI driver and Mac optimizations & L&F. Pretty many of those were merged back to Wine, but not winequartz.drv. Do you guys think about reviving winequartz.drv? This would greatly improve Wine on Mac as we could have native Mac fonts handling that's faster than FreeType, Dock icons for Wine applications, and few others. There's still old copy of the it hanging around, but it is abandoned, and no longer compiles with Wine. Or I think it would be cool to write new winecocoa.drv or sthing like that, as Apple officially states that Carbon is deprecated. While it is not well documented, it is pretty easy with Cocoa to make console non-bundled process to be UI foreground process and handle events and Dock: (This code is copyrighted by myself ;P) > int main(int argc, const char * argv[]) { > ProcessSerialNumber psn = {0, kCurrentProcess}; > OSStatus returnCode = TransformProcessType(&psn, > kProcessTransformToForegroundApplication); > SetFrontProcess(&psn); > > NSAutoreleasePool *pool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init]; > [NSApplication sharedApplication]; > > NSImage *icon = [NSImage imageNamed:@"NSApplicationIcon"]; > [NSApp setApplicationIconImage:icon]; > > [NSApp finishLaunching]; > > NSWindow *window = [[NSWindow alloc] > initWithContentRect:NSMakeRect(0, 0, 100, 100) > styleMask:NSTitledWindowMask| > NSClosableWindowMask|NSMiniaturizableWindowMask|NSResizableWindowMask > backing:NSBackingStoreBuffered defer:NO]; > [window center]; > [window setTitle:@"Test"]; > > NSButton *button = [[NSButton alloc] > initWithFrame:NSMakeRect(10, 10, 80, 80)]; > [button setTitle:@"What?"]; > [button setBezelStyle:1]; > [[window contentView] addSubview:button]; > [button release]; > > [window makeKeyAndOrderFront:NSApp]; > > while(1) { > NSEvent *event = [NSApp > nextEventMatchingMask:NSAnyEventMask > untilDate > :[NSDate distantFuture] > inMode:NSDefaultRunLoopMode > dequeue:YES > ]; > if(event) [NSApp sendEvent:event]; > } > [pool release]; > return 0; > } BTW. I heard that someone previously working for Wine project is now in Apple, it is true? Regards, -- Adam Strzelecki |: nanoant.com :|

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Wine translation statistics sources
by Mikołaj Zalewski June 22, 2009

June 22, 2009

Hi, I didn't update the translation statistics (http://www.mikolaj.zalewski.pl/wine-transl/) very regularly lately - my server is a bit broken and I can't run the scripts from cron but have remember to do it manually from a different computer. I have plans to fix it, but in the mean time, as some people may want fresh data, I have finished the changes I've been working on and uploaded the sources. It should be very easy to run them on ones machine and check the tree one has on disk - there is a README with explanations. The archive is available at http://www.mikolaj.zalewski.pl/dl/wine-transl.tgz . It is the latest version that adds support for dumping/diffing dialogs. Mikolaj Zalewski

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XI2 DirectInput mouse implementation RFC (Tarballed)
by Paul TBBle Hampson June 2, 2009

June 2, 2009

(Resend, the first email never arrived. I didn't realise one of my patches was 33k >_<) I've thrown together a rather-rough-but-working-in-a-limited-sense implementation of XInput2-based DirectInput. It's got a fair few problems, I'm mainly interested in feedback on the approach, although obviously any code or style criticisms are welcome. Current limitations: * Doesn't check for XInput2.h, so it won't build without it. (Laziness) It will _run_ without XInput2, falling back to the current dinput WndProc hooks even if compiled with XInput2 support. * Doesn't send button-ups; XI2 can't distinguish button up from down * Doesn't send events after button-down until after button-up on a window. I'm pretty sure this is an XI2 bug, but it might be a design feature. * Doesn't support exclusive mode. XI2 bug (grabs not yet implemented) Hopefully this can be implemented entirely within the dinput code in winex11drv (ie disabling and hiding the mouse on acquire. dinput already takes care of unacquiring when we are no longer the foreground app) * Mouse buttons aren't remapped nicely downwards. Need to look harder at this, my mouse reports buttons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 under X. 4 and 5 are scroll, 6 and 7 might be horizontal scroll in which case if this is always the case we can just remap downwards. Might need to implement device querying to confirm mouse button mapping... * Only supports the Mouse. Adding keyboard support should be really trivial compared to actually getting the framework right. * Doesn't detect capabilities... A mouse with a horizontal scroll wheel'd have four axes. I haven't looked to see if DirectInput can support that, or if our dinput code can easily accomodate more axes or buttons than the current 3/8 setup. This the point we'd need another callthrough from gdimouse to the graphics driver. * Assumes a process will only try and acquire the mouse once. I'm not sure that this is a bad assumption, and it might be that dinput makes this a valid assumption for us. * Assumes no one else wants GenericEvents. Some day we'll need a GenericEvent handler system inside WineX11, particularly if wintab gets converted to XInput 2 support. Easy enough to do now if wanted. * gdimouse uses Wine Mouse GUID value. I'm not sure where these come from, if anywhere. Trivial to fix before submission. If this format is fine, then the first patch is basically ready to go, the latter two patches may need to be re-split or merged more sensibly. In the libs folder I've also attached a couple of fixes for the XI2 stuff if anyone wants to try it. One only affects 64-bit builds, and one fixes XCB locking assertions which you could probably otherwise ignore. So they're both kinda optional in the Wine context. Also one more patch, against the xinput utility from whot's git tree, to fix a compile failure in the XI2 test functionality. -- Paul "TBBle" Hampson, Paul.Hampson(a)Pobox.com Shorter .sig for a more eco-friendly paperless office.

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Need help writing test
by Igor Tarasov May 20, 2009

May 20, 2009

Hi! I've found few visual glitches in comctl32/toolbar, and now try to write this all down as conformance tests, but I have some problems. I see that there is bug, when I test it with control spy. But when I repeat it in testcase, it won't work. Here is how you can reproduce it: TB_SETBITMAPSIZE 20,20 TB_SETBUTTONSIZE 30,30 TB_SETBITMAPSIZE 10,10 Now, if you do TB_SETBUTTONSIZE, you'll see the difference. builtin comctl will return 17,16. Native - 30,16. But when I write something like this: rebuild_toolbar_with_buttons(&hToolbar); himl = ImageList_LoadImage(GetModuleHandle(NULL), MAKEINTRESOURCE(IDB_BITMAP_80x15), 20, 2, CLR_NONE, IMAGE_BITMAP, LR_DEFAULTCOLOR); ok(SendMessageA(hToolbar, TB_SETIMAGELIST, 0, (LRESULT)himl) == 0, "TB_SETIMAGELIST failed\n"); SendMessageA(hToolbar, TB_SETBITMAPSIZE, 0, MAKELONG(20, 20)); SendMessageA(hToolbar, TB_SETBUTTONSIZE, 0, MAKELONG(30, 30)); ok(SendMessageA(hToolbar, TB_GETBUTTONSIZE, 0, 0) == MAKELONG(30, 30), "Unexpected button size\n"); SendMessageA(hToolbar, TB_SETBITMAPSIZE, 0, MAKELONG(10, 10)); compare((int)SendMessageA(hToolbar, TB_GETBUTTONSIZE, 0, 0), MAKELONG(30, 16), "%x"); This test fails, when I test it with native comctl32 (the size is 17,16). Why could this happen or what am I doing wrong? -- Igor

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Office 2007 MSI Crash - Null dereference @ MsiViewExecute
by Mike Kaplinskiy May 4, 2009

May 4, 2009

I was looking at the trace of the crash from bug 17600, and it looks like a custom action is calling MsiViewExecute with a null hRec. I (sadly) don't know much about the wine MSI architecture, but the msiobj_lock on line 484 should fail since rec will never be fetched (null). I think the intention was to make it query->hdr (as it is released later). Sorry if I'm dead wrong - just my 2c

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Re: IE and MSN Messenger 7.0
by Ben Klein May 3, 2009

May 3, 2009

2009/5/1 Cissyvonwinckelmann <cissyvonwinckelmann(a)planet.nl>: > hartelijk dank Benm ja ik moet snel een andere pc hebben, want dit is een > hele ouwe dan krijg je de moeilijkheden, > groetjes cissy > I have to use Google Language Tools to translate your text, so I apologise if I misunderstand you. The "old problems" with Messenger (you actually didn't say which Messenger it is, Yahoo or MSN?) in Wine are not likely to go away without a lot of work. As this is the developers' mailing list, we would welcome patches/modifications to Wine to make it work better. Without a discussion on the development side, your questions are better directed to wine-users mailing list or the forum, or some other user-oriented support path. Regardless, it is strongly recommended that you look into using a native client (i.e. something you don't need Wine to run) such as Pidgin.

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Dib Engine: some update
by Massimo Del Fedele May 1, 2009

May 1, 2009

I put on bug's 421 page an update of my dib engine. It implements AlphaBlend, StretchBlt and has many color fixes. If you want to try it, just follow instructions on above page. Ciao Max

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Wine + Mono + application = library not found?
by Seth Shelnutt May 1, 2009

May 1, 2009

Hello all, I'm trying to see if I can get a folding monitor, http://code.google.com/p/hfm-net/ working in Wine. I've installed the latest wine, 1.1.20, and the latest mono for windows 2.4. It seems however that either mono or Wine, I think wine, is not seeing the library file from gtk. However it is in my lib folder. Does anyone have any idea where wine is looking for the lib to be at? This is on a Debian "testing" (Squeeze I guess, but I keep my repos under the "testing" and no name, I use the wine "sid" repo) install. shelnutt(a)K-Server:~/Downloads/HFM Release 0.1.1.10$ wine HFM.exe Unhandled Exception: System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the type initializer for System.Windows.Forms.MimeIconEngine ---> System.DllNotFoundException: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Windows.Forms.GnomeUtil:gdk_init_check (intptr,intptr) at System.Windows.Forms.GnomeUtil.Init () [0x00000] at System.Windows.Forms.GnomeUtil.GetIcon (System.String icon, Int32 size) [0x00000] at System.Windows.Forms.GnomeHandler.AddGnomeIcon (System.String internal_mime_type, System.String name) [0x00000] at System.Windows.Forms.GnomeHandler.CreateUIIcons () [0x00000] at System.Windows.Forms.GnomeHandler.Start () [0x00000] at System.Windows.Forms.MimeIconEngine..cctor () [0x00000] --- End of inner exception stack trace --- at System.Windows.Forms.WinFileSystem..ctor () [0x00000] at System.Windows.Forms.MWFVFS..ctor () [0x00000] at System.Windows.Forms.FileDialog..ctor () [0x00000] at System.Windows.Forms.OpenFileDialog..ctor () [0x00000] at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.Windows.Forms.OpenFileDialog:.ctor () at HFM.Forms.frmMain.InitializeComponent () [0x00000] at HFM.Forms.frmMain..ctor () [0x00000] at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) HFM.Forms.frmMain:.ctor () at HFM.Program.Main (System.String[] argv) [0x00000] shelnutt(a)K-Server:~/Downloads/HFM Release 0.1.1.10$ locate libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 /home/shelnutt/opt/gps/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1 Thanks, Seth Shelnutt

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IE and MSN Messenger 7.0
by Cissyvonwinckelmann May 1, 2009

May 1, 2009

dag, bestaat er voor mij nog een mogelijkheid om messenger 7.0 te downloaden. Heb dus nog Windows Me, heel graag antwoord, groet cissy cissyvonwinckelmann(a)planet.nl

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Re: Wine + Mono + application = library not found?
by Hin-Tak Leung April 30, 2009

April 30, 2009

I use wine + win32 mono quite regularly (my .net app does some gdi some p/invoke stuff). Wine or mono takes extra dll's from $PATH, and also from the application's directory. The windows version of the gtk library is actually in .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Mono-2.4/bin/ . The way I would run your application would be: cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Mono-2.4/bin/ \ && wine ./mono.exe H:/Downloads/HFM Release 0.1.1.10/HFM.exe (note the "H:" for home dir under windows). There are probably other ways of doing it, but I think mine is guaranteed to work. --- On Fri, 1/5/09, Seth Shelnutt <shelnutt2(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm trying to see if I can get a folding monitor, http://code.google.com/p/hfm-net/ > working in Wine. I've installed the latest wine, 1.1.20, > and the latest mono for windows 2.4. It seems however that > either mono or Wine, I think wine, is not seeing the library > file from gtk. However it is in my lib folder. Does anyone > have any idea where wine is looking for the lib to be at? > This is on a Debian "testing" (Squeeze I guess, > but I keep my repos under the "testing" and no > name, I use the wine "sid" repo) install. > > > > > shelnutt(a)K-Server:~/Downloads/HFM Release 0.1.1.10$ wine > HFM.exe > > Unhandled Exception: System.TypeInitializationException: An > exception was thrown by the type initializer for > System.Windows.Forms.MimeIconEngine ---> > System.DllNotFoundException: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 > > > at (wrapper managed-to-native) > System.Windows.Forms.GnomeUtil:gdk_init_check > (intptr,intptr) > at System.Windows.Forms.GnomeUtil.Init () [0x00000] > at System.Windows.Forms.GnomeUtil.GetIcon (System.String > icon, Int32 size) [0x00000] > > > at System.Windows.Forms.GnomeHandler.AddGnomeIcon > (System.String internal_mime_type, System.String name) > [0x00000] > at System.Windows.Forms.GnomeHandler.CreateUIIcons () > [0x00000] > at System.Windows.Forms.GnomeHandler.Start () [0x00000] > > > > at System.Windows.Forms.MimeIconEngine..cctor () > [0x00000] > --- End of inner exception stack trace --- > at System.Windows.Forms.WinFileSystem..ctor () [0x00000] > > at System.Windows.Forms.MWFVFS..ctor () [0x00000] > > > at System.Windows.Forms.FileDialog..ctor () [0x00000] > at System.Windows.Forms.OpenFileDialog..ctor () > [0x00000] > at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) > System.Windows.Forms.OpenFileDialog:.ctor () > at HFM.Forms.frmMain.InitializeComponent () [0x00000] > > > at HFM.Forms.frmMain..ctor () [0x00000] > at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) > HFM.Forms.frmMain:.ctor () > at HFM.Program.Main (System.String[] argv) [0x00000] > > shelnutt(a)K-Server:~/Downloads/HFM Release 0.1.1.10$ locate > libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 > > > /home/shelnutt/opt/gps/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 > /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 > /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.1600.1 > > > Thanks, > > Seth Shelnutt > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > >

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New Icons are very good, but not yet perfect
by Joel Holdsworth April 30, 2009

April 30, 2009

Hi All, Great stuff with the new Tango icons for Wine - they're a definite improvement. One observation: it looks like the icons that I have installed do not have versions that have been tuned for small size: 16x16 and especially 22x22. If I understand correctly, the scaled icons were drawn for 48x48, which means that when the icon is drawn at size 22x22 in my gnome menu, there will be line width of 0.46px which looks too faint next to the other icons which have been tuned for small sizes, and have 1px lines. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks Joel Holdsworth

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Re: [PATCH] This patch fixes context menu crashes for edit controls asapparent in vb apps.
by Dmitry Timoshkov April 30, 2009

April 30, 2009

And what is the reason of the crash? Please add a test case replicating the problem first. -- Dmitry.

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Re: Added Polish translation
by Jeremy Newman April 30, 2009

April 30, 2009

Your templates include html,head,meta, and body tags. Please strip them out and resubmit the patch. Otherwise everything looks good. -Newman Łukasz Wojniłowicz wrote: > From: Łukasz Wojniłowicz <Wojnilowicz(a)nslw.hstl.put.poznan.pl> > > --- > include/data.php | 4 + > templates/pl/.cvsignore | 2 + > templates/pl/announce.template | 19 +++ > templates/pl/download.template | 280 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > templates/pl/download/deb.template | 127 ++++++++++++++++ > templates/pl/home.template | 70 +++++++++ > templates/pl/interview.template | 18 +++ > templates/pl/irc.template | 27 ++++ > templates/pl/lang.template | 36 +++++ > templates/pl/news.template | 21 +++ > templates/pl/search.template | 40 +++++ > 11 files changed, 644 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) > create mode 100644 templates/pl/.cvsignore > create mode 100644 templates/pl/announce.template > create mode 100644 templates/pl/download.template > create mode 100644 templates/pl/download/deb.template > create mode 100644 templates/pl/home.template > create mode 100644 templates/pl/interview.template > create mode 100644 templates/pl/irc.template > create mode 100644 templates/pl/lang.template > create mode 100644 templates/pl/news.template > create mode 100644 templates/pl/search.template >

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re: This patch fixes context menu crashes for edit controls as apparent in vb apps.
by Dan Kegel April 30, 2009

April 30, 2009

Hi Martin, thanks for the patch. Two suggestions: 1) if possible, please write a conformance test. 2) It appears you're a ReactOS developer, so you should expect some turbulence. You may have to go the "file a really good bug" route if Wine can't accept your patches. - Dan

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Re: Disabling File attachments on Wiki
by Dmitry Timoshkov April 30, 2009

April 30, 2009

[please don't forget to cc: wine-devel] "Jeff Latimer" <lats(a)yless4u.com.au> wrote: >>> It would be also helpful to to get all wiki user account list (check it >>> time from time for suspicious names) and have an ability to delete >>> accounts >>> of known spammers for Wiki admins. Is it possible? >> Another thing that would probably help to get rid of spammers' accounts >> is to (regularly) delete all user accounts without a personal page. > It would also get rid of anyone who did not want to create a home page. Then it's time to do that, with a short description what your intentions/ activity is in the Wine project. > I just created one /just in case/ but really don't want to. What's the point in having a Wiki account then? -- Dmitry.

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Re: Sound problems with latest kernel -- formerly a pulseaudio thread but not any more
by Susan Cragin April 30, 2009

April 30, 2009

>>>>> I have tested the following and I believe found they were not the problem: >>>>--snip-- >>>>> (3) problem with pulseaudio >>>> >>>>How did you determine this? I thought you said your version of Ubuntu >>>>was crippled if pulseaudio was removed, so did you use pasuspender? If >>>>so, did you verify there was no pulseaudio process running while you >>>>were testing Wine? >>> >>> After I started my testing, I did run into problems when I tried to re-install pulseaudio and then remove it, but the PA problem was unrelated. Ubuntu said there was a PA bug, and issued a fix. After I applied the fix, no more problems working with pulseaudio removed. So the whole thing was sort of a red herring. >>> >>> I have re-installed my entire system since that problem went away, and immediately purged pulseaudio, and that's where I'm working from now. Still same problem. >> >>OK, thanks for that clarification. >> >>So you've tracked the problem down to kernel version 2.6.29? What >>version of ALSA drivers are in your working and broken kernels? > >I've actually tracked it to before that. > >Wine's audio last worked with one of Ubuntu's generic kernels, probably 2.6.28-10. >Ubuntu's current repository kernel is 2.6.28-11. That's the one I that caused the problem. >The experimental bug-fix kernel is 2.6.28-12. That does not solve my problem. >(Here's where I got the kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~dtchen/test-kernels/ ) > >When my kernel worked, my drivers were 0.1.19 -- one of Tashaki Iwai's daily stable builds from a couple of weeks ago. >They are 0.1.19 now, today's daily stable build, compiled against 2.6.29-1-rt8-custom, which is what I am running at the moment. > >My 29-rt kernel is showing the same problems as the two kernels mentioned above. >FWIW, the person who compiled the RT kernel said that he did so without applying the Ubuntu patches. So that tells me that the change took place outside the Ubuntu patches. Well, this may be a pulseaudio problem after all. It may not be a wine problem. For the first time this morning, I tried running audacity -- the linux version. (My system has pulseaudio purged.) Audacity behaves the same way under Linux it does under wine, freezing when I stop and re-start the record function. I filed ubuntu bug 369762.

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Re: Ubuntu no longer works correctly without pulseaudio
by Susan Cragin April 30, 2009

April 30, 2009

>wineoss is not a viable solution to the pulseaudio problem, but this >is a real nasty issue where the solution is "as long as it works for >you, it's fine". > >What exactly is the issue with purging pulseaudio? Though this should >be taken up with ubuntu's bugs tracker. pulseaudio should be >considered optional, since ALSA/dmix works wherever pulseaudio with >ALSA backend works, even if it is opt-out. Ben, sorry... You probably haven't been following this thread closely. I determined a couple of days ago that pulseaudio was not actually my problem even though I thought it was. I just kept the name of the thread. One of wine's developers asked me if linux's (or Ubuntu's) alsa-wrappers could have changed, and if wine's alsa-wrappers could therefore need updating. The fact that something works under winecfg OSS (but not under winecfg ALSA) is a valuable piece of diagnostic information. My value to this group is usually as a canary in the mine. Because I have the latest kernel, and the latest updates, I am able to spot problems before they hit the mainstream. And remember, this is a developers' group, not a users group. Experimentation is grist for the mill. Susan

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