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Firefox much faster with 0.9.11?!
by Dan Kegel April 1, 2006

April 1, 2006

I dunno what y'all did, but Firefox now downloads long mailing list indices much faster than it used to. This dogfood is getting yummier every month. - Dan -- Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv

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request for Orkut wine forum manager
by Shachar Shemesh April 1, 2006

April 1, 2006

Hi all, If you don't know who I am, please do skip the rest of this paragraph. As you well know, I have not been as active on the Wine project as I wish. Unfortunately, this is not going to change much in the near future :-( I am currently the manager of the "Wine" forum on Orkut. I just got an email asking to do some operation (enabling email to members), which clarified to me that, perhaps, my lack of activity is to the disadvantage of the community members. And so, I would like to ask the esteemed members of this list. Is there anyone here who would like to take this responsibility from me? Please be sure to CC me on replies. Thanks, Shachar

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Budget Dedicated has provided us with a server and a ton of free bandwidth
by Scott Ritchie April 1, 2006

April 1, 2006

Hello folks, Just wanted to let everyone know that I finished setting up the server Budget Dedicated has given us. (http://www.budgetdedicated.com) Currently it's hosting the APT repository: deb http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt breezy main deb-src http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt breezy main Now, here's the cool thing: we're not confined by disk space anymore here, so we can host .deb packages in the APT repository for different distributions. This includes backports to Debian Sarge, as well as forward ports to new versions of Ubuntu like Dapper, or even whatever other crazy deb distro we want to package. Budget Dedicated has also given permission for other things to be moved there, such as the Wine website (or parts thereof). The server is super fast and on a very fat pipe in the Netherlands, so for anyone in Europe it'll almost certainly be better to download things from there. For now, however, it's just an APT repository, and the APT repository just has Ubuntu Breezy packages, however it would be very easy to add packages for other distributions or architectures - just send me an email and I can take care of it. Thanks, Scott Ritchie

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Photoshop plugins in Gimp on Linux using Wine!
by Dan Kegel April 1, 2006

April 1, 2006

I've been hearing rumblings about people using Wine to run windows photoshop plugins on Linux Gimp, but hadn't seen anything concrete. Well, here it is: http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/pspi.html Have a look. Congratulations, Wine! - Dan -- Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv

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Re: Software Freedom Conservancy
by Tom Spear (Dustin Booker, Dustin Navea) April 1, 2006

April 1, 2006

Jeremy White wrote: >> No objection from me.. Although, I should mention that I haven't seen >> much in the way of a link to donate to the project. Theres no link on >> the main page anywhere that I can see. Perhaps the fund would be a >> little bigger if it was easier to find a donate link? >> > > Hmm. On the lower right hand side of the main page is a donate > link, and there is also a donations request on Sourceforge. > > But you raise a good point; feel free to make a suggestion > for how it should change (a patch?) - I'm certainly not opposed. > > (Although the honest truth is that we raise more money than > we need right now, at least for Wine. For CodeWeavers, we can > always use more money :-/) > > Cheers, > > Jeremy > > hmm.. I didn't see that at all lol. I did however notice the contributing link shortly after I sent the last email. I think if we put the donate link (as well as the codeweavers link) on the left just under the search link they might get noticed a little more.. Of course you do raise a good point about raising more money than wine really needs, so on to the next idea... The short answer is that I dont have an idea right now, but I have done some thinking about it.. If you want the long answer, keep reading, else, just click close lol... Obviously codeweavers requires advertising and marketing in order to get new customers. The majority of that advertising so far has been done by the community and word of mouth. The biggest step towards taking codeweavers mainstream is obviously to get more people to switch to linux.. the press has done a decent job of helping us out in that respect, but a lot of people dont read the magazines. I mean I see it all the time on various forums, my favorite being the forum entitled the worst tech support call you have ever made... Someone will get DSL service, and not have a router, and think that it will work out of the box with whatever os they use... So when it doesnt and they cant figure it out, they call dsl tech support, and ask "Do you support Linux?"... Guess what the tech support rep asks 99% of the time... "What is Linux? Is that a new version of Windows?"..... Back to the point though, people dont read magazines or stuff on the internet so they dont know theres an alternative to windows. That means they dont know about cW or crossover. How do we get more users over to Linux? Good question, unfortunately one I don't have an answer for right now. Once we get users to Linux, or maybe even as the hook to get them to switch would be to show them crossover while showing them linux and how not prone to viruses it is, show them internet explorer running under it, or better yet show them stuff like word, excel, and adobe, and then show them firefox and say ok ie is the only app we are going to take away from you.. then the security issues are small (no ie to infect) but they can still use their regular stuff, and their machine will seem more responsive compared to how it ran on windows. I'm sure those are all ideas your people have already had and discussed, but shoot, it would be nice to see some linux based booths at e3 or ces or the revamped comdex once it comes out.. of course the best way to get mainstream is the force your way mainstream, more and better placement on store shelves.. get the stores to start pitching linux and the benefits of using it over windows. then have the rep help them decide on a distro and put them in touch with someone familiar with linux. of course that is all beyond codeweavers and wine's scope, but that is the idea.. get other linux companies to start pushing it more. M$ wants to play hardball? We gotta start predicting their pitches. Tom

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Re: [Bug 1181] Keyboard translation broken: uses raw keycodes
by Peter Åstrand April 1, 2006

April 1, 2006

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Wine Bugs wrote: > http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1181 > > ------- Additional Comments From Speeddymon(a)gmail.com 2006-30-03 10:26 ------- > Peter, I'm not sure if you ever did subscribe to wine-devel, but you did mention > that wine could possibly reuse parts of your keysym implementation. Could you > email the list (even if you dont scubscribe) and let them know about this bug, > and see if anyone is willing to take a look at it. Just make sure you let them > know you aren't subscribed, if you aren't, and to CC you on replies. Hi, now you know about this bug. As the comment says, it might be possible to reuse some parts from the rdesktop implementation. I'm not saying that it will be easy, though. To be honest, I think bug 4923, and many others, are more important. Instead of fixing Wine, it might be possible to enhance Xvnc so that it can "emulate" a physical Xserver with a certain physical keyboard. Regards, -- Peter Åstrand ThinLinc Chief Developer Cendio http://www.cendio.se Teknikringen 3 583 30 Linköping Phone: +46-13-21 46 00

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Keyboard Rewrite
by Tom Spear April 1, 2006

April 1, 2006

Hi all, this is a call for volunteers. I am hoping that certain developers participating in another thread are willing to rewrite the keyboard code, but we need people to test. If you are interested, please reply here saying that you are interested, and what kind of keyboard you use, as well as the layout you use under X. I will be creating a wiki page for this project once the people who will be taking on this rewrite confirm that they will do so, and will post the link to this thread as soon as it is created. The purpose of this rewrite is to (hopefully) fix all of the problems people have with key mappings, characters not showing up as expected, race conditions, characters not showing up at all, etc, and hopefully allow us to close out many of the bugs in bugzilla having to do with the keyboard. Thanks all in advance Tom

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getwinegit.sh 0.31 released!
by Christian Lachner March 31, 2006

March 31, 2006

OK, I'm tired now but this is a new release an it owns ;). It should be quite stable but I didn't test it. So what has changed: 0.31 One more Release, I'm glad about this one - Some smaller an greater Fixes - After Compiling, the Script creates a helperfile to help mode 4 - Sections in Logfile - Trap included to handle ctrl+c - Implemented a small sleeper to give you a chance to stop the script before it starts to clean the source This is one of the last versions. The last version will be called 1.0. (maybe the next one?) If you miss a feature... write to the mailinglist.

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Improper message recursion revealed by recent desktop window changes
by Troy Rollo March 31, 2006

March 31, 2006

The recent changes to the desktop have revealed a problem with recursive processing of X messages. The problem started to manifest with commit 1a4f6e579b6aab685fae2e649fd5accee7ec0b4f (7th March). A symptom is a stack that looks like this: <application Window procedure> WINPROC_wrapper ... CallWindowProcW ... SendMessageW X11DRV_SetWindowPos SetWindowPos X11DRV_ConfigureNotify process_events X11DRV_MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx wait_message_reply send_inter_thread_message SendMessageTimeoutW SendMessageW send_parent_notify DestroyWindow In other words, a destroy notification is being sent to the parent window with SendMessageW, and before that message returns an unrelated X message is processed. Under Windows the equivalent could never happen - if a thread is in SendMessage(), the only messages that can be delivered to it are ones sent by SendMessage() from another thread. The consequences of this can be unpleasant if the code that processes (in this case a window movement notification) the message interferes with state that is being dealt with in earlier stack frames. wait_message_reply calls X11DRV_MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx with: res = USER_Driver->pMsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx( 1, &server_queue, INFINITE, QS_ALLINPUT, 0 ); The brute-force approach of changing this to the following makes the application work, but gives rise to some pack_message FIXMEs (for WM_NCPAINT and WM_ERASEBKGND), and since this is an extremely sensitive piece of code to change I thought it best left to people with more familiarity with it. -- Troy Rollo - wine(a)troy.rollo.name

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Re: [RESEND][x11drv] cleanup: Move x11drv escape codes to one common header file.
by Alexandre Julliard March 31, 2006

March 31, 2006

Tomas Carnecky <tom(a)dbservice.com> writes: > This patch doesn't change any logic or C sourcecode, it only moves the > X11DRV escape code definition to one common header file. Currently the > definitions are spread over several C source files, and even there the > definitions differ from file to file. I don't see anything wrong with > this patch unless you *want* to have it difficult to maintain the code. Actually, that's more or less what we want. That sort of inter-dll dependencies should be strongly discouraged, and we don't want to add more of it than strictly necessary; as far as possible we also don't want dlls to depend on private headers, so copying a few things across is the preferred approach. If it becomes a problem it means something is wrong with our implementation. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org

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