Re: Debian packages of Wine
Maurilio is doing a great job providing Lenny packages for Wine. The site at http://wine.x.pl has been providing Wine packages for Etch for some time. x86 only I'm afraid. The site's author is very modest but I believe it's a chap named James Huk who used to send messages to the wine-user mailing list letting people know he'd put up a new package. James claimed his packages work under Lenny as well as Etch and I have used them this way before Maurilio started putting up packages built specifically for Lenny. Is there really that much difference ? I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages. Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ? Cheers, PBR
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Paul Bryan Roberts <pbronline-wine(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages. Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ?
1. Ubuntu debs are split into a base and a -dev pkg containing the includes. 2. Ubuntu debs are lzma compressed, while those for Debian are gzip'ed. /Björn
2009/1/17 Bjoern Krombholz <fox.box+wine(a)gmail.com>:
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Paul Bryan Roberts <pbronline-wine(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages. Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ?
1. Ubuntu debs are split into a base and a -dev pkg containing the includes.
Aha! I thought I didn't have headers in my packages. Ideally, I'd want to produce -dev packages separately, as the average user doesn't build libwine packages. Maybe Scott can help with this :)
2. Ubuntu debs are lzma compressed, while those for Debian are gzip'ed.
I'd expect this wouldn't make a big difference.
/Björn
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Ben Klein <shacklein(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2. Ubuntu debs are lzma compressed, while those for Debian are gzip'ed.
I'd expect this wouldn't make a big difference.
Indeed, it does: /home/src/wine-git$ prefix=/tmp/wine-test make -e install ... /home/src/wine-git$ cd /tmp /tmp$ du -sh wine-test 138M wine-test /tmp$ time tar --gzip -cf wine.tar.gz wine-test real 0m11.310s user 0m11.005s sys 0m0.312s /tmp$ time tar --bzip2 -cf wine.tar.bz2 wine-test real 0m29.178s user 0m28.882s sys 0m0.200s /tmp$ time tar --lzma -cf wine.tar.7z wine-test real 1m32.890s user 1m32.530s sys 0m0.328s /tmp$ ls -sh wine.tar.* 26M wine.tar.7z 39M wine.tar.bz2 41M wine.tar.gz
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Bjoern Krombholz <fox.box+wine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Paul Bryan Roberts <pbronline-wine(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages. Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ?
1. Ubuntu debs are split into a base and a -dev pkg containing the includes. 2. Ubuntu debs are lzma compressed, while those for Debian are gzip'ed.
/Björn
Curious, what versions of Debian / Ubuntu supports lzma compressed .deb packages?
Lei Zhang wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Bjoern Krombholz > <fox.box+wine(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Paul Bryan Roberts >> <pbronline-wine(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages. Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ? >> 1. Ubuntu debs are split into a base and a -dev pkg containing the includes. >> 2. Ubuntu debs are lzma compressed, while those for Debian are gzip'ed. >> >> >> /Björn >> >> >> > > Curious, what versions of Debian / Ubuntu supports lzma compressed > .deb packages? > > 8.10 Supports it natively, 8.04 does as well however policy says that 8.04 packages must pre-depend on the newer dpkg so that upgrades from earlier Ubuntus go well. Using lzma compression does make a huge difference. From the mirror's perspective, it's about 100 gigabytes of data a month. Thanks, Scott Ritchie
On Fr, 2009-01-16 at 07:11 +0000, Paul Bryan Roberts wrote:
I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages. Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ?
deb support different compression types: gz, bzip and lzma You can use "ar -x name.deb" to get the content. Scott has a seperate devel package and is using lzma for the data. unpacked: 55850kB wine + 13960KB wine-dev The other package is using gz. unpacked: 69180KB wine with wine-dev -- By by ... Detlef
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