Hi all, It's getting close to WineConf and I think it's time to think about agenda. Does anyone have anything he'd like to talk about? Any ideas about conversations we should have? Feel free to add them to https://wiki.winehq.org/WineConf2017 Cheers, Jacek
2017-10-13 5:23 GMT-06:00 Jacek Caban <jacek(a)codeweavers.com>:
It's getting close to WineConf and I think it's time to think about agenda. Does anyone have anything he'd like to talk about? Any ideas about conversations we should have? Feel free to add them to https://wiki.winehq.org/WineConf2017
It would be nice to talk about the fake DLL problem. In case you're not familiar, numerous popular applications (Chrome, Steam, StarCraft, Overwatch...) manually load system DLLs into memory, do some verification checks, and then attempt to jump into the DLL's code. This causes a crash because Wine's DLLs are fakes that don't contain the actual function code. Wine Staging has a solution to the problem involving making the fake DLLs more realistic and then catching and redirecting attempts to execute memory-mapped code. I'm curious to know what it would take to get the Wine Staging solution or another reasonable solution into mainline Wine. -Alex
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:18:27AM -0600, Alex Henrie wrote:
2017-10-13 5:23 GMT-06:00 Jacek Caban <jacek(a)codeweavers.com>:
It's getting close to WineConf and I think it's time to think about agenda. Does anyone have anything he'd like to talk about? Any ideas about conversations we should have? Feel free to add them to https://wiki.winehq.org/WineConf2017
How about having a bit more strategy discussion on merging Wine Staging patches (quicker) to mainline wine? Ciao, Marcus
How about having a bit more strategy discussion on merging Wine Staging patches (quicker) to mainline wine?
It would be interesting video indeed, I followed several big patch series based on staging and adjusted to be well-qualified (tests, fixes, etc) -- that were moving to the bottom of https://source.winehq.org/patches/ without a comment or response and then disappeared :) Probably there are some non-obvious rules like proof-of-time or code-support concerns or existing plans to implement same functionality in a more correct way -- visibility on the staging->mainline process would be very useful for those, who want to help the project in this way, as clearly staging patches help win applications on the edge and attract attention of potential volunteers P.s. At least, it looks as making sense to add to for each patch in staging git, what it is lacking, ideas on better implementation, links to discussions or quotes from there, etc Best, Donnie 23.10.2017, 14:00, "Marcus Meissner" <meissner(a)suse.de>:
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 12:18:27AM -0600, Alex Henrie wrote:
2017-10-13 5:23 GMT-06:00 Jacek Caban <jacek(a)codeweavers.com>: > It's getting close to WineConf and I think it's time to think about agenda. > Does anyone have anything he'd like to talk about? Any ideas about > conversations we should have? Feel free to add them to > https://wiki.winehq.org/WineConf2017
How about having a bit more strategy discussion on merging Wine Staging patches (quicker) to mainline wine?
Ciao, Marcus
2017-10-23 8:18 GMT+02:00 Alex Henrie <alexhenrie24(a)gmail.com>:
2017-10-13 5:23 GMT-06:00 Jacek Caban <jacek(a)codeweavers.com>:
It's getting close to WineConf and I think it's time to think about agenda. Does anyone have anything he'd like to talk about? Any ideas about conversations we should have? Feel free to add them to https://wiki.winehq.org/WineConf2017
It would be nice to talk about the fake DLL problem. In case you're not familiar, numerous popular applications (Chrome, Steam, StarCraft, Overwatch...) manually load system DLLs into memory, do some verification checks, and then attempt to jump into the DLL's code. This causes a crash because Wine's DLLs are fakes that don't contain the actual function code. Wine Staging has a solution to the problem involving making the fake DLLs more realistic and then catching and redirecting attempts to execute memory-mapped code. I'm curious to know what it would take to get the Wine Staging solution or another reasonable solution into mainline Wine.
There are at least two open bugs about the fake DLL problem: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39403 https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42741 And at least two more that are related: https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40479 https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37585 -Alex
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