I'm trying to get a list of 'gold' apps from the appdb, but it doesn't have a way to search like that, so I filed http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4365 In the meantime, what apps work *really well* with Wine at the moment? Firefox 1.5 seems to be in good shape. I'm looking for apps that will demo well for my talk at SCALE in two weeks. It'd be cool if OpenOffice 2.0.1 isn't (http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4366). -- Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv
On 1/21/06, Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> wrote:
It'd be cool if OpenOffice 2.0.1 isn't (http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4366).
gaah. somehow gmail sent when I hit tab. I meant to say It'd be cool if OpenOffice 2.0.1 worked, but it doesn't even start (http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4366). Y'know, OpenOffice has some good regression tests. It'd be great if OOo worked on Wine, 'cause then we could run those regression tests nightly; that would probably help identify new wine problems early. - Dan -- Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv
On 1/21/06, Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> wrote:
I'm trying to get a list of 'gold' apps from the appdb, but it doesn't have a way to search like that, so I filed http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4365
In the meantime, what apps work *really well* with Wine at the moment? Firefox 1.5 seems to be in good shape. I'm looking for apps that will demo well for my talk at SCALE in two weeks.
If you looking for games, I maintain the AppDB entries for Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3. I've finally rated both gold now that all the critical features of the games work with the current wine releases. And they run stable with only a few steps. They look great. Although the movies don't play right in Warcraft 3, as there are crashing bugs with quartz, so I've done all that I have done all along: removed the movies folder. Then the game doesn't even use quartz. I don't consider this a critical issue since this recommendation is given to windows users too when the game movies don't work for them. I'll have to try to debug it when I have a day off of school. Diablo 2 does still run in D3D mode if you hack the gamma function to DD_OK. Everything else there is ok. Jesse
On 1/22/06, Jesse Allen <the3dfxdude(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/21/06, Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> wrote:
I'm trying to get a list of 'gold' apps from the appdb, but it doesn't have a way to search like that, so I filed http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4365
In the meantime, what apps work *really well* with Wine at the moment? Firefox 1.5 seems to be in good shape. I'm looking for apps that will demo well for my talk at SCALE in two weeks.
Perhaps the top-10 Gold List on the front page of the appdb might help: http://appdb.winehq.org/ If you looking for games, I maintain the AppDB entries for Diablo 2
and Warcraft 3. I've finally rated both gold now that all the critical features of the games work with the current wine releases. And they run stable with only a few steps. They look great.
Although the movies don't play right in Warcraft 3, as there are crashing bugs with quartz, so I've done all that I have done all along: removed the movies folder. Then the game doesn't even use quartz. I don't consider this a critical issue since this recommendation is given to windows users too when the game movies don't work for them. I'll have to try to debug it when I have a day off of school.
In my experience (Breezy Badger 5.10, wine 0.9.5), the movies in Warcraft 3 actually played through without crashing, though it was unbearably slow. Other games seem to be having similar problems when it comes to playing videos. For example, Half-life 2: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3665 What is it, really, that causes the movies to play so slowly? Diablo 2 does still run in D3D mode if you hack the gamma function to
DD_OK. Everything else there is ok.
Jesse
James
On 1/22/06, James Trotter <james.trotter(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/22/06, Jesse Allen <the3dfxdude(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/21/06, Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> wrote:
I'm trying to get a list of 'gold' apps from the appdb, but it doesn't have a way to search like that, so I filed http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4365
In the meantime, what apps work *really well* with Wine at the moment? Firefox 1.5 seems to be in good shape. I'm looking for apps that will demo well for my talk at SCALE in two weeks.
Perhaps the top-10 Gold List on the front page of the appdb might help: http://appdb.winehq.org/
If you looking for games, I maintain the AppDB entries for Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3. I've finally rated both gold now that all the critical features of the games work with the current wine releases. And they run stable with only a few steps. They look great.
Although the movies don't play right in Warcraft 3, as there are crashing bugs with quartz, so I've done all that I have done all along: removed the movies folder. Then the game doesn't even use quartz. I don't consider this a critical issue since this recommendation is given to windows users too when the game movies don't work for them. I'll have to try to debug it when I have a day off of school.
In my experience (Breezy Badger 5.10, wine 0.9.5), the movies in Warcraft 3 actually played through without crashing, though it was unbearably slow.
Other games seem to be having similar problems when it comes to playing videos. For example, Half-life 2: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3665
What is it, really, that causes the movies to play so slowly?
Diablo 2 does still run in D3D mode if you hack the gamma function to DD_OK. Everything else there is ok.
Jesse
James
No
James Trotter wrote:
What is it, really, that causes the movies to play so slowly?
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AFAIK, all Blizzard games use Bink. In WoW the speed of video playback I've noticed is very dependent on audio performance. When the ALSA driver improved, the cinematics got noticeably less choppier for me (can't remember when that happened, back around 0.9.0). They're still not as smooth as they should be now though so I'm not sure. http://www.radgametools.com/bnkdown.htm Someone more curious about speeding things up can download the standalone windows bink player from there and put the war3/d2 cinematics through it (you may need to extract them from an MPQ first, google for mpq extractors). This way you could know if the video performance is due to something specific to the games.
On 1/22/06, Joseph Garvin <k04jg02(a)kzoo.edu> wrote:
James Trotter wrote:
What is it, really, that causes the movies to play so slowly?
AFAIK, all Blizzard games use Bink. In WoW the speed of video playback I've noticed is very dependent on audio performance. When the ALSA
War3 and WoW uses DivX. But your guess is right that there is a bad combination of audio and quartz/dshow going on with it. The older games D2/Starcraft uses an older Bink which play fine. The older Bink might not use dshow.
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