Re: FAQ: Update the ports section

[Tom]

Francois Gouget wrote:
> Changelog:
>
> -	  The following will list the x86 operating systems supported by
> +	  The following lists the x86 operating systems supported by

Should be.

The following list are the x86 operating systems supported by


Tom

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Arjen Verweij]

list are? not list is?

*boggle*

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Tom wrote:
> Francois Gouget wrote:
> > Changelog:
> >
> > -	  The following will list the x86 operating systems supported by
> > +	  The following lists the x86 operating systems supported by
>
> Should be.
>
> The following list are the x86 operating systems supported by
>
> Tom

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Tom]

Arjen Verweij wrote:
> list are? not list is?
>
> *boggle*

list are ...
As, The list is going to be updated in the future...... would be
future tence.. and are is present tence...... the list are now updated

Okay its time for someone who really knows english..
Dimi, where are you??

:))

Tom

FAQ: Update the ports section

[David Laight]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 03:46:10AM -0400, Tom wrote:
> Arjen Verweij wrote:
> > list are? not list is?
> >
> > *boggle*
>
> list are ...
> As, The list is going to be updated in the future...... would be
> future tence.. and are is present tence...... the list are now updated

I am, he is, they are

One list, so you want the 2nd person singular 'the list is now updated'.

	David

-- 
David Laight: david(a)l8s.co.uk

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Tom]

David Laight wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 03:46:10AM -0400, Tom wrote:
> > Arjen Verweij wrote:
> > > list are? not list is?
> > >
> > > *boggle*
> >
> > list are ...
> > As, The list is going to be updated in the future...... would be
> > future tence.. and are is present tence...... the list are now updated
>
> I am, he is, they are
>
> One list, so you want the 2nd person singular 'the list is now updated'.
>
> David

May I call for a moderator ?


I say ARE! I  don't know where your from (West Virginia)
by any chance ?  ah ba bing, bing, bing.. BING!
But here is NC we would say are..

Geez.. english sucks. Dmitry please teach me russian!

pedrrqousu

Tom

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Shachar Shemesh]

Tom wrote:
> David Laight wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 03:46:10AM -0400, Tom wrote:
> > > Arjen Verweij wrote:
> > > > list are? not list is?
> > > >
> > > > *boggle*
> > >
> > > list are ...
> > > As, The list is going to be updated in the future...... would be
> > > future tence.. and are is present tence...... the list are now updated
> >
> > I am, he is, they are
> >
> > One list, so you want the 2nd person singular 'the list is now updated'.
> >
> > David
>
> May I call for a moderator ?
>
> I say ARE! I  don't know where your from (West Virginia)
> by any chance ?  ah ba bing, bing, bing.. BING!
> But here is NC we would say are..
>
> Geez.. english sucks. Dmitry please teach me russian!
>
> pedrrqousu
>
> Tom

Now, English is not even my native language, but should that be "the 
list is now up to date"?

          Shachar

-- 
Shachar Shemesh
Open Source integration consultant
Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Tom]

Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Tom wrote:
> > David Laight wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 03:46:10AM -0400, Tom wrote:
> > > > Arjen Verweij wrote:
> > > > > list are? not list is?
> > > > >
> > > > > *boggle*
> > > >
> > > > list are ...
> > > > As, The list is going to be updated in the future...... would be
> > > > future tence.. and are is present tence...... the list are now updated
> > >
> > > I am, he is, they are
> > >
> > > One list, so you want the 2nd person singular 'the list is now 
> > > updated'.
> > >
> > > David
> >
> > May I call for a moderator ?
> >
> > I say ARE! I  don't know where your from (West Virginia)
> > by any chance ?  ah ba bing, bing, bing.. BING!
> > But here is NC we would say are..
> >
> > Geez.. english sucks. Dmitry please teach me russian!
> >
> > pedrrqousu
> >
> > Tom
>
> Now, English is not even my native language, but should that be "the 
> list is now up to date"?
>
> Shachar

Hi,

Shachar, go back to compiling :-) like a good little lad...
No.... It's  "The list are now up to date"
and your should, should be shouldn't .. ha

anothor... ba bing, bing, bing, BING!

Tom

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Shachar Shemesh]

Tom wrote:
> Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> > Tom wrote:
> > > David Laight wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 03:46:10AM -0400, Tom wrote:
> > > > > Arjen Verweij wrote:
> > > > > > list are? not list is?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *boggle*
> > > > >
> > > > > list are ...
> > > > > As, The list is going to be updated in the future...... would be
> > > > > future tence.. and are is present tence...... the list are now 
> > > > > updated
> > > >
> > > > I am, he is, they are
> > > >
> > > > One list, so you want the 2nd person singular 'the list is now 
> > > > updated'.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > >
> > > May I call for a moderator ?
> > >
> > > I say ARE! I  don't know where your from (West Virginia)
> > > by any chance ?  ah ba bing, bing, bing.. BING!
> > > But here is NC we would say are..
> > >
> > > Geez.. english sucks. Dmitry please teach me russian!
> > >
> > > pedrrqousu
> > >
> > > Tom
> >
> > Now, English is not even my native language, but should that be "the 
> > list is now up to date"?
> >
> > Shachar
>
> Hi,
>
> Shachar, go back to compiling :-) like a good little lad...

I think your attitude is a bit arrogant. Besides, I'm still having a 
tough time understanding why it won't compile without optimizations.
> No.... It's  "The list are now up to date"

We are talking about "list" in third person (we aren't talking to the 
list (2nd person), nor are we the list (1st)). It is singular. We are 
using the present tense. According to Merriam-Webster, the verb "be" 
translates to: "/present first singular/ *am* 
<javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?be000006.wav=am')> /&m, 'am/; 
/second singular/ *are* 
<javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?be000007.wav=are')> /'är, &r/; 
/third singular/ *is* 
<javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?be000008.wav=is')> /'iz, &z/; 
/plural/ *are"*
(http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=be)

In other words, present, singular, third person form should be "is". If 
it were plural, then "are" it would be ("the list*s are* now up to 
date", but "the list *is* now up to date").
> and your should, should be shouldn't .. ha

Yes, that was, indeed, a typing mistake. Better make triply sure that 
each email I send to you is proofread thrice, shouldn't we?

In any case, Hebrew is my native language. What's your excuse for 
"tence"? Or "are"? I think we can make everybody's life a little happier 
by keeping the tone more respectful.
> anothor... ba bing, bing, bing, BING!

Whatever you say.
> Tom

Shachar

-- 
Shachar Shemesh
Open Source integration consultant
Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Shachar Shemesh]

Tom wrote:
> Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> > Tom wrote:
> > > David Laight wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 03:46:10AM -0400, Tom wrote:
> > > > > Arjen Verweij wrote:
> > > > > > list are? not list is?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *boggle*
> > > > >
> > > > > list are ...
> > > > > As, The list is going to be updated in the future...... would be
> > > > > future tence.. and are is present tence...... the list are now 
> > > > > updated
> > > >
> > > > I am, he is, they are
> > > >
> > > > One list, so you want the 2nd person singular 'the list is now 
> > > > updated'.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > >
> > > May I call for a moderator ?
> > >
> > > I say ARE! I  don't know where your from (West Virginia)
> > > by any chance ?  ah ba bing, bing, bing.. BING!
> > > But here is NC we would say are..
> > >
> > > Geez.. english sucks. Dmitry please teach me russian!
> > >
> > > pedrrqousu
> > >
> > > Tom
> >
> > Now, English is not even my native language, but should that be "the 
> > list is now up to date"?
> >
> > Shachar
>
> Hi,
>
> Shachar, go back to compiling :-) like a good little lad...

I think your attitude is a bit arrogant. Besides, I'm still having a 
tough time understanding why it won't compile without optimizations.
> No.... It's  "The list are now up to date"

We are talking about "list" in third person (we aren't talking to the 
list (2nd person), nor are we the list (1st)). It is singular. We are 
using the present tense. According to Merriam-Webster, the verb "be" 
translates to: "/present first singular/ *am* 
<javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?be000006.wav=am')> /&m, 'am/; 
/second singular/ *are* 
<javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?be000007.wav=are')> /'är, &r/; 
/third singular/ *is* 
<javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?be000008.wav=is')> /'iz, &z/; 
/plural/ *are"*
(http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=be)

In other words, present, singular, third person form should be "is". If 
it were plural, then "are" it would be ("the list*s are* now up to 
date", but "the list *is* now up to date").
> and your should, should be shouldn't .. ha

Yes, that was, indeed, a typing mistake. Better make triply sure that 
each email I send to you is proofread thrice, shouldn't we?

In any case, Hebrew is my native language. What's your excuse for 
"tence"? Or "are"? I think we can make everybody's life a little happier 
by keeping the tone more respectful.
> anothor... ba bing, bing, bing, BING!

Whatever you say.
> Tom

Shachar

-- 
Shachar Shemesh
Open Source integration consultant
Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Tom]

Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Whatever you say.

Sorry I hurt your feeling's,  ill make sure to be very nice to you
in the future.  I promise not to pick on you any more about your compile
troubles  :))

And to make it up ill give you a nice link to www.redhat.com the Linux
OS from NC USA. do you know the second language RH was ported to ?
RedNeck ...... My native tounge.

Tom
> > Tom
>
> Shachar
>
> -- 
> Shachar Shemesh
> Open Source integration consultant
> Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Keith Matthews]

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:29:55 +0300
Shachar Shemesh <wine-devel(a)shemesh.biz> wrote:
> Now, English is not even my native language, but should that be "the 
> list is now up to date"?

Better to think laterally - 'the list has now been updated'. 

Probably a good idea to add a date so's people know how badly out that
statement might be too.

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Tom]

Keith Matthews wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:29:55 +0300
> Shachar Shemesh <wine-devel(a)shemesh.biz> wrote:
> > Now, English is not even my native language, but should that be "the 
> > list is now up to date"?
>
> Better to think laterally - 'the list has now been updated'.

I give up..
I will go with Keith on this one :)

I see there is at least one smart brit left.
Oh I forgot you still have Alan Cox :)

Thanks Keith.. I owe you a beer!

Tom
> Probably a good idea to add a date so's people know how badly out that
> statement might be too.

FAQ: Update the ports section

[David Laight]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 02:54:24AM -0400, Tom wrote:
> Francois Gouget wrote:
> > Changelog:
> >
> > -	  The following will list the x86 operating systems supported by
> > +	  The following lists the x86 operating systems supported by
>
> Should be.
>
> The following list are the x86 operating systems supported by

That is definitely wrong - there is only one list, so it would have to be
'The following list is the...'

	David

-- 
David Laight: david(a)l8s.co.uk

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Tom]

David Laight wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 02:54:24AM -0400, Tom wrote:
> > Francois Gouget wrote:
> > > Changelog:
> > >
> > > -	  The following will list the x86 operating systems supported by
> > > +	  The following lists the x86 operating systems supported by
> >
> > Should be.
> >
> > The following list are the x86 operating systems supported by
>
> That is definitely wrong - there is only one list, so it would have to be
> 'The following list is the...'
>
> David

Then I  guess we would need to say "system" and not *systems* then.
As there *are* more than one system!


Tom

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Francois Gouget]

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Tom wrote:
> Francois Gouget wrote:
> > Changelog:
> >
> > -	  The following will list the x86 operating systems supported by
> > +	  The following lists the x86 operating systems supported by
>
> Should be.
>
> The following list are the x86 operating systems supported by

'list' is also a verb. So I stand by what I wrote. I'm not sure the
'are' is very correct in your sentence, it sounds weird. If going this
route, maybe the following would be better:

These are the x86 operating systems supported by


-- 
Francois Gouget         fgouget(a)free.fr        http://fgouget.free.fr/
                     Avoid the Gates of Hell - use Linux.

FAQ: Update the ports section

[Tom]

Francois Gouget wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Tom wrote:
>
> 'list' is also a verb. So I stand by what I wrote. I'm not sure the
> 'are' is very correct in your sentence, it sounds weird. If going this
> route, maybe the following would be better:
>
> These are the x86 operating systems supported by

Okay ill go along with that :)

Tom