Another quick note.... just saw the mistake I made with the URL, so here it is again ... This URL will display the pages in English but will not allow the download to take place ... so read about it here .... http://www.freeproxy.us/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3BpY2FzYS5nb29nbGUuY29tL2xpbnV4... then click on this link to download the same thing in French but this URL will allow the download .. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpicasa.google.com%2Flin... Nick Law wrote:
Thanks Dan, impressive program. That link seems to be down though, as of 26/May/06 11:00GMT, however I downloaded and installed the latest version of Picasa for windows and ran it on wine 0.9.14 and it seems to run very well, there is a few fixme's but so far everything seems to work although I haven't by any means used all it's features (there's a lot of them).
On the google picasa group, http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux?lnk=srg there is also some mention of the link being down but only for outside the US, so here's a backdoor if the link doesn't work for you and your not in the US. http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux?lnk=srg (It's a bit slow but seemed to work, just give it time)
Nick
Dan Kegel wrote:
Google has indeed been working on Picasa, and it's finally available for download at http://labs.google.com/
For the curious, here are a few tidbits about how it came to be.
When Google wanted to port Picasa to Linux, they faced a problem: the Picasa team was busy working on new projects, and having them also do a native port would have taken a while. As an experiment, Google decided to give Wine a try. A quick look showed that much of Picasa already worked, but key features were missing: the IWebBrowser API, SSL, scanner/camera support, removable media notification (so you can insert a flash drive and have Windows notice it right away), and change notification (so Windows can notify apps when new files are created), among others. Fortunately, Wine was already halfway to having an implementation of IWebBrowser thanks to Jacek Caban's Summer of Code 2005 project. And all that other stuff couldn't be *that* hard, right? :-) So Google engaged Codeweavers to add those features and fix any other bugs. This resulted in tons of improvements to Wine (see the list at code.google.com/wine.html), all of which are now in the public tree at winehq.org.
Many people assume that when porting a Windows app to Linux using Wine, the best thing to do is link Winelib into the application to create a native Linux application. Not so! It's just as effective, and a heck of a lot easier, to run the same binary on both Windows and Wine. So that's what the Picasa team did. Picasa for Linux uses slightly different text messages, but the .exe file is identical for both Windows and Linux.
Toward the very end, everything was looking great except that the initial assumption that most cameras emulate storage devices turned out to be wrong. Fortunately, Marcus Meissner just happened to decide to implement libgphoto support; his patch appeared at the perfect moment, and now Picasa supports both common flavors of cameras.
Two features left out of the Linux version were CD-ROM burning (the driver Picasa uses is hard to support under Wine) and movie playback (Wine doesn't have the necessary codecs). Both are potentially fixable in a future version, but were beyond the scope of this first port.
One interesting challenge when shipping commercial apps for Linux is packaging -- do you choose RPM or Debian packages, or do you use a WIndows-style installer? The Picasa for Linux team chose all three, in hopes of pleasing everybody. (Let's see how well *that* works :-) The Windows-style installer was implemented using the open-source Loki installer, and a few patches were contributed back for that, too.
The Picasa for Linux team had a blast. It's not often you get to pour resources into a vital open source project to help ship a commercial application! We hope we get to do it again sometime soon, and we hope the results are good enough to encourage other companies to give Wine a try.
Thanks to the Wine community for a very capable platform! - Dan
I 've loaded and installed the .bin version, installation went flawlessly, I told it to index the whole hard drive it started doing that then after 30 seconds or do a message box poped up --- FATAL ERROR -- "Picasa cannot continue", it completely hung, the OK button was unresponsive and I had to kill it in a unix window. Whether this had anything to do with it but as it was indexing I changed my mind and told it to index the hard disk only once rather than keep an eye out for changes. The windows version indexed the hard drive with no errors, although I didn't change anything while it it scanning the disk. Regards Nick Nick Law wrote:
Another quick note.... just saw the mistake I made with the URL, so here it is again ...
This URL will display the pages in English but will not allow the download to take place ... so read about it here .... http://www.freeproxy.us/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3BpY2FzYS5nb29nbGUuY29tL2xpbnV4...
then click on this link to download the same thing in French but this URL will allow the download .. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpicasa.google.com%2Flin...
Nick Law wrote:
Thanks Dan, impressive program. That link seems to be down though, as of 26/May/06 11:00GMT, however I downloaded and installed the latest version of Picasa for windows and ran it on wine 0.9.14 and it seems to run very well, there is a few fixme's but so far everything seems to work although I haven't by any means used all it's features (there's a lot of them).
On the google picasa group, http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux?lnk=srg there is also some mention of the link being down but only for outside the US, so here's a backdoor if the link doesn't work for you and your not in the US. http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux?lnk=srg (It's a bit slow but seemed to work, just give it time)
Nick
Dan Kegel wrote:
Google has indeed been working on Picasa, and it's finally available for download at http://labs.google.com/
For the curious, here are a few tidbits about how it came to be.
When Google wanted to port Picasa to Linux, they faced a problem: the Picasa team was busy working on new projects, and having them also do a native port would have taken a while. As an experiment, Google decided to give Wine a try. A quick look showed that much of Picasa already worked, but key features were missing: the IWebBrowser API, SSL, scanner/camera support, removable media notification (so you can insert a flash drive and have Windows notice it right away), and change notification (so Windows can notify apps when new files are created), among others. Fortunately, Wine was already halfway to having an implementation of IWebBrowser thanks to Jacek Caban's Summer of Code 2005 project. And all that other stuff couldn't be *that* hard, right? :-) So Google engaged Codeweavers to add those features and fix any other bugs. This resulted in tons of improvements to Wine (see the list at code.google.com/wine.html), all of which are now in the public tree at winehq.org.
Many people assume that when porting a Windows app to Linux using Wine, the best thing to do is link Winelib into the application to create a native Linux application. Not so! It's just as effective, and a heck of a lot easier, to run the same binary on both Windows and Wine. So that's what the Picasa team did. Picasa for Linux uses slightly different text messages, but the .exe file is identical for both Windows and Linux.
Toward the very end, everything was looking great except that the initial assumption that most cameras emulate storage devices turned out to be wrong. Fortunately, Marcus Meissner just happened to decide to implement libgphoto support; his patch appeared at the perfect moment, and now Picasa supports both common flavors of cameras.
Two features left out of the Linux version were CD-ROM burning (the driver Picasa uses is hard to support under Wine) and movie playback (Wine doesn't have the necessary codecs). Both are potentially fixable in a future version, but were beyond the scope of this first port.
One interesting challenge when shipping commercial apps for Linux is packaging -- do you choose RPM or Debian packages, or do you use a WIndows-style installer? The Picasa for Linux team chose all three, in hopes of pleasing everybody. (Let's see how well *that* works :-) The Windows-style installer was implemented using the open-source Loki installer, and a few patches were contributed back for that, too.
The Picasa for Linux team had a blast. It's not often you get to pour resources into a vital open source project to help ship a commercial application! We hope we get to do it again sometime soon, and we hope the results are good enough to encourage other companies to give Wine a try.
Thanks to the Wine community for a very capable platform! - Dan
Having looked at both the linux version and the windows version running on 0.9.14 I must admit that I prefer the windows version running on 0.9.14 simply because the fonts look much better on my system ( if anybody is interested I can send a couple of screen shots), i.e the font look more like you typical windows type font. One thing I forget to mention and I don't know if it makes any difference, but I'm running Picasa for Windows on a patched version of 0.9.14. The patch in question is the memory patch used to make World of Warcraft work. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=4031 Regards Nick Nick Law wrote:
I 've loaded and installed the .bin version, installation went flawlessly, I told it to index the whole hard drive it started doing that then after 30 seconds or do a message box poped up --- FATAL ERROR -- "Picasa cannot continue", it completely hung, the OK button was unresponsive and I had to kill it in a unix window. Whether this had anything to do with it but as it was indexing I changed my mind and told it to index the hard disk only once rather than keep an eye out for changes.
The windows version indexed the hard drive with no errors, although I didn't change anything while it it scanning the disk.
Regards Nick
Nick Law wrote:
Another quick note.... just saw the mistake I made with the URL, so here it is again ...
This URL will display the pages in English but will not allow the download to take place ... so read about it here .... http://www.freeproxy.us/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3BpY2FzYS5nb29nbGUuY29tL2xpbnV4...
then click on this link to download the same thing in French but this URL will allow the download .. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpicasa.google.com%2Flin...
Nick Law wrote:
Thanks Dan, impressive program. That link seems to be down though, as of 26/May/06 11:00GMT, however I downloaded and installed the latest version of Picasa for windows and ran it on wine 0.9.14 and it seems to run very well, there is a few fixme's but so far everything seems to work although I haven't by any means used all it's features (there's a lot of them).
On the google picasa group, http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux?lnk=srg there is also some mention of the link being down but only for outside the US, so here's a backdoor if the link doesn't work for you and your not in the US. http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux?lnk=srg (It's a bit slow but seemed to work, just give it time)
Nick
Dan Kegel wrote:
Google has indeed been working on Picasa, and it's finally available for download at http://labs.google.com/
For the curious, here are a few tidbits about how it came to be.
When Google wanted to port Picasa to Linux, they faced a problem: the Picasa team was busy working on new projects, and having them also do a native port would have taken a while. As an experiment, Google decided to give Wine a try. A quick look showed that much of Picasa already worked, but key features were missing: the IWebBrowser API, SSL, scanner/camera support, removable media notification (so you can insert a flash drive and have Windows notice it right away), and change notification (so Windows can notify apps when new files are created), among others. Fortunately, Wine was already halfway to having an implementation of IWebBrowser thanks to Jacek Caban's Summer of Code 2005 project. And all that other stuff couldn't be *that* hard, right? :-) So Google engaged Codeweavers to add those features and fix any other bugs. This resulted in tons of improvements to Wine (see the list at code.google.com/wine.html), all of which are now in the public tree at winehq.org.
Many people assume that when porting a Windows app to Linux using Wine, the best thing to do is link Winelib into the application to create a native Linux application. Not so! It's just as effective, and a heck of a lot easier, to run the same binary on both Windows and Wine. So that's what the Picasa team did. Picasa for Linux uses slightly different text messages, but the .exe file is identical for both Windows and Linux.
Toward the very end, everything was looking great except that the initial assumption that most cameras emulate storage devices turned out to be wrong. Fortunately, Marcus Meissner just happened to decide to implement libgphoto support; his patch appeared at the perfect moment, and now Picasa supports both common flavors of cameras.
Two features left out of the Linux version were CD-ROM burning (the driver Picasa uses is hard to support under Wine) and movie playback (Wine doesn't have the necessary codecs). Both are potentially fixable in a future version, but were beyond the scope of this first port.
One interesting challenge when shipping commercial apps for Linux is packaging -- do you choose RPM or Debian packages, or do you use a WIndows-style installer? The Picasa for Linux team chose all three, in hopes of pleasing everybody. (Let's see how well *that* works :-) The Windows-style installer was implemented using the open-source Loki installer, and a few patches were contributed back for that, too.
The Picasa for Linux team had a blast. It's not often you get to pour resources into a vital open source project to help ship a commercial application! We hope we get to do it again sometime soon, and we hope the results are good enough to encourage other companies to give Wine a try.
Thanks to the Wine community for a very capable platform! - Dan
And here's a working english link for those outside the US, I wonder why the normal links don't work for those outside the US ? http://picasa.google.com.nyud.net:8080/linux/thanks-other.html It takes you straight to the .bin download with it's selfextracting installer. Nick Law wrote:
Having looked at both the linux version and the windows version running on 0.9.14 I must admit that I prefer the windows version running on 0.9.14 simply because the fonts look much better on my system ( if anybody is interested I can send a couple of screen shots), i.e the font look more like you typical windows type font.
One thing I forget to mention and I don't know if it makes any difference, but I'm running Picasa for Windows on a patched version of 0.9.14. The patch in question is the memory patch used to make World of Warcraft work. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=4031
Regards Nick
Nick Law wrote:
I 've loaded and installed the .bin version, installation went flawlessly, I told it to index the whole hard drive it started doing that then after 30 seconds or do a message box poped up --- FATAL ERROR -- "Picasa cannot continue", it completely hung, the OK button was unresponsive and I had to kill it in a unix window. Whether this had anything to do with it but as it was indexing I changed my mind and told it to index the hard disk only once rather than keep an eye out for changes.
The windows version indexed the hard drive with no errors, although I didn't change anything while it it scanning the disk.
Regards Nick
Nick Law wrote:
Another quick note.... just saw the mistake I made with the URL, so here it is again ...
This URL will display the pages in English but will not allow the download to take place ... so read about it here .... http://www.freeproxy.us/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3BpY2FzYS5nb29nbGUuY29tL2xpbnV4...
then click on this link to download the same thing in French but this URL will allow the download .. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpicasa.google.com%2Flin...
Nick Law wrote:
Thanks Dan, impressive program. That link seems to be down though, as of 26/May/06 11:00GMT, however I downloaded and installed the latest version of Picasa for windows and ran it on wine 0.9.14 and it seems to run very well, there is a few fixme's but so far everything seems to work although I haven't by any means used all it's features (there's a lot of them).
On the google picasa group, http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux?lnk=srg there is also some mention of the link being down but only for outside the US, so here's a backdoor if the link doesn't work for you and your not in the US. http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux?lnk=srg (It's a bit slow but seemed to work, just give it time)
Nick
Dan Kegel wrote:
Google has indeed been working on Picasa, and it's finally available for download at http://labs.google.com/
For the curious, here are a few tidbits about how it came to be.
When Google wanted to port Picasa to Linux, they faced a problem: the Picasa team was busy working on new projects, and having them also do a native port would have taken a while. As an experiment, Google decided to give Wine a try. A quick look showed that much of Picasa already worked, but key features were missing: the IWebBrowser API, SSL, scanner/camera support, removable media notification (so you can insert a flash drive and have Windows notice it right away), and change notification (so Windows can notify apps when new files are created), among others. Fortunately, Wine was already halfway to having an implementation of IWebBrowser thanks to Jacek Caban's Summer of Code 2005 project. And all that other stuff couldn't be *that* hard, right? :-) So Google engaged Codeweavers to add those features and fix any other bugs. This resulted in tons of improvements to Wine (see the list at code.google.com/wine.html), all of which are now in the public tree at winehq.org.
Many people assume that when porting a Windows app to Linux using Wine, the best thing to do is link Winelib into the application to create a native Linux application. Not so! It's just as effective, and a heck of a lot easier, to run the same binary on both Windows and Wine. So that's what the Picasa team did. Picasa for Linux uses slightly different text messages, but the .exe file is identical for both Windows and Linux.
Toward the very end, everything was looking great except that the initial assumption that most cameras emulate storage devices turned out to be wrong. Fortunately, Marcus Meissner just happened to decide to implement libgphoto support; his patch appeared at the perfect moment, and now Picasa supports both common flavors of cameras.
Two features left out of the Linux version were CD-ROM burning (the driver Picasa uses is hard to support under Wine) and movie playback (Wine doesn't have the necessary codecs). Both are potentially fixable in a future version, but were beyond the scope of this first port.
One interesting challenge when shipping commercial apps for Linux is packaging -- do you choose RPM or Debian packages, or do you use a WIndows-style installer? The Picasa for Linux team chose all three, in hopes of pleasing everybody. (Let's see how well *that* works :-) The Windows-style installer was implemented using the open-source Loki installer, and a few patches were contributed back for that, too.
The Picasa for Linux team had a blast. It's not often you get to pour resources into a vital open source project to help ship a commercial application! We hope we get to do it again sometime soon, and we hope the results are good enough to encourage other companies to give Wine a try.
Thanks to the Wine community for a very capable platform! - Dan
I spoke to soon, they seems to be a couple of show stoppers on the windows on wine 0.9.14 and on the linux versions, i.e. hangs or not wanting to run at all. Can somebody let me know where I should report these problems to ? I assume this this not the correct place.. Nick Nick Law wrote:
And here's a working english link for those outside the US, I wonder why the normal links don't work for those outside the US ? http://picasa.google.com.nyud.net:8080/linux/thanks-other.html It takes you straight to the .bin download with it's selfextracting installer.
Nick Law wrote:
Having looked at both the linux version and the windows version running on 0.9.14 I must admit that I prefer the windows version running on 0.9.14 simply because the fonts look much better on my system ( if anybody is interested I can send a couple of screen shots), i.e the font look more like you typical windows type font.
One thing I forget to mention and I don't know if it makes any difference, but I'm running Picasa for Windows on a patched version of 0.9.14. The patch in question is the memory patch used to make World of Warcraft work. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=4031
Regards Nick
Nick Law wrote:
I 've loaded and installed the .bin version, installation went flawlessly, I told it to index the whole hard drive it started doing that then after 30 seconds or do a message box poped up --- FATAL ERROR -- "Picasa cannot continue", it completely hung, the OK button was unresponsive and I had to kill it in a unix window. Whether this had anything to do with it but as it was indexing I changed my mind and told it to index the hard disk only once rather than keep an eye out for changes.
The windows version indexed the hard drive with no errors, although I didn't change anything while it it scanning the disk.
Regards Nick
Nick Law wrote:
Another quick note.... just saw the mistake I made with the URL, so here it is again ...
This URL will display the pages in English but will not allow the download to take place ... so read about it here .... http://www.freeproxy.us/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3BpY2FzYS5nb29nbGUuY29tL2xpbnV4...
then click on this link to download the same thing in French but this URL will allow the download .. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpicasa.google.com%2Flin...
Nick Law wrote:
Thanks Dan, impressive program. That link seems to be down though, as of 26/May/06 11:00GMT, however I downloaded and installed the latest version of Picasa for windows and ran it on wine 0.9.14 and it seems to run very well, there is a few fixme's but so far everything seems to work although I haven't by any means used all it's features (there's a lot of them).
On the google picasa group, http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux?lnk=srg there is also some mention of the link being down but only for outside the US, so here's a backdoor if the link doesn't work for you and your not in the US. http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux?lnk=srg (It's a bit slow but seemed to work, just give it time)
Nick
Dan Kegel wrote:
Google has indeed been working on Picasa, and it's finally available for download at http://labs.google.com/
For the curious, here are a few tidbits about how it came to be.
When Google wanted to port Picasa to Linux, they faced a problem: the Picasa team was busy working on new projects, and having them also do a native port would have taken a while. As an experiment, Google decided to give Wine a try. A quick look showed that much of Picasa already worked, but key features were missing: the IWebBrowser API, SSL, scanner/camera support, removable media notification (so you can insert a flash drive and have Windows notice it right away), and change notification (so Windows can notify apps when new files are created), among others. Fortunately, Wine was already halfway to having an implementation of IWebBrowser thanks to Jacek Caban's Summer of Code 2005 project. And all that other stuff couldn't be *that* hard, right? :-) So Google engaged Codeweavers to add those features and fix any other bugs. This resulted in tons of improvements to Wine (see the list at code.google.com/wine.html), all of which are now in the public tree at winehq.org.
Many people assume that when porting a Windows app to Linux using Wine, the best thing to do is link Winelib into the application to create a native Linux application. Not so! It's just as effective, and a heck of a lot easier, to run the same binary on both Windows and Wine. So that's what the Picasa team did. Picasa for Linux uses slightly different text messages, but the .exe file is identical for both Windows and Linux.
Toward the very end, everything was looking great except that the initial assumption that most cameras emulate storage devices turned out to be wrong. Fortunately, Marcus Meissner just happened to decide to implement libgphoto support; his patch appeared at the perfect moment, and now Picasa supports both common flavors of cameras.
Two features left out of the Linux version were CD-ROM burning (the driver Picasa uses is hard to support under Wine) and movie playback (Wine doesn't have the necessary codecs). Both are potentially fixable in a future version, but were beyond the scope of this first port.
One interesting challenge when shipping commercial apps for Linux is packaging -- do you choose RPM or Debian packages, or do you use a WIndows-style installer? The Picasa for Linux team chose all three, in hopes of pleasing everybody. (Let's see how well *that* works :-) The Windows-style installer was implemented using the open-source Loki installer, and a few patches were contributed back for that, too.
The Picasa for Linux team had a blast. It's not often you get to pour resources into a vital open source project to help ship a commercial application! We hope we get to do it again sometime soon, and we hope the results are good enough to encourage other companies to give Wine a try.
Thanks to the Wine community for a very capable platform! - Dan
On 5/26/06, Nick Law <nlaw(a)mic-nucmed.co.uk> wrote:
I spoke to soon, they seems to be a couple of show stoppers on the windows on wine 0.9.14 and on the linux versions, i.e. hangs or not wanting to run at all.
Can somebody let me know where I should report these problems to ? I assume this this not the correct place..
For problems with the Windows version running on Wine 0.9.14, use Wine's bugzilla at http://bugs.winehq.org . For problems with the Linux version, use the mailling list for now; see http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Labs-Picasa-for-Linux - Dan
On 5/26/06, Nick Law <nlaw(a)mic-nucmed.co.uk> wrote:
Having looked at both the linux version and the windows version running on 0.9.14 I must admit that I prefer the windows version running on 0.9.14 simply because the fonts look much better on my system
Could it be that you had fonts installed already? That would do it. - Dan
Dan Kegel wrote:
On 5/26/06, Nick Law <nlaw(a)mic-nucmed.co.uk> wrote:
Having looked at both the linux version and the windows version running on 0.9.14 I must admit that I prefer the windows version running on 0.9.14 simply because the fonts look much better on my system
Could it be that you had fonts installed already? That would do it. - Dan
Yes, that's correct I had copied my windows fonts from my laptop into the fonts directory in wine. Nick
On 5/26/06, Nick Law <nick.law(a)mic-nucmed.co.uk> wrote:
Having looked at both the linux version and the windows version running on 0.9.14 I must admit that I prefer the windows version running on 0.9.14 simply because the fonts look much better on my system
Could it be that you had fonts installed already? That would do it.
Yes, that's correct I had copied my windows fonts from my laptop into the fonts directory in wine.
You can do the same thing with the Linux version. - Dan
I guess I could create a symbolic link from the fonts directory in wine but where is the linux version of Picasa expecting to find these fonts ? Sorry I should be able to find them with find but I seem to have folders with fonts in several locations. Dan Kegel wrote:
On 5/26/06, Nick Law <nick.law(a)mic-nucmed.co.uk> wrote:
Having looked at both the linux version and the windows version running on 0.9.14 I must admit that I prefer the windows version running on 0.9.14 simply because the fonts look much better on my system
Could it be that you had fonts installed already? That would do it.
Yes, that's correct I had copied my windows fonts from my laptop into the fonts directory in wine.
You can do the same thing with the Linux version. - Dan
On 5/26/06, Nick Law <nick.law(a)mic-nucmed.co.uk> wrote:
I guess I could create a symbolic link from the fonts directory in wine but where is the linux version of Picasa expecting to find these fonts
Probably ~/.picasa/drive_c/windows/fonts, or something like that. The directory might not exist by default.
Dan Kegel wrote:
On 5/26/06, Nick Law <nick.law(a)mic-nucmed.co.uk> wrote:
I guess I could create a symbolic link from the fonts directory in wine but where is the linux version of Picasa expecting to find these fonts
Probably ~/.picasa/drive_c/windows/fonts, or something like that. The directory might not exist by default.
the font directory already exists in /home/guest/picasa/wine/drive_c/windows/fonts and has a few fonts in it, so I mv it and created a symbolic link to the wine fonts folder where all my fonts are. cd /home/[loginname]/picasa/wine/drive_c/windows mv fonts fonts.orig ln -s /home/[loginname]/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts /home/[loginname]/picasa/wine/drive_c/windows/fonts Nick
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