Installing Palm Desktop
Hi Uwe, I figured out how to install Palm Desktop, perhaps this might prove useful to someone: 1. Install native Windows Installer manually. To do this, install dcom98 first. Then run instmsia.exe. The install will complain, but it will leave behind all the files you need in Windows\Installer\InstMsi0. Copy all the files in there to Windows\system, and set msi.dll and msiexec.exe to native. 2. Install Windows Script 5.6. You can download it from here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0a8a18f6-249c-4a72-... Keep in mind that it's the English version though. To install it, set setupapi to builtin and run the file. 3. Run Palm Desktop setup like normal, and it will install everything you need. Of course, running palm desktop is a different story (there is a crash in WinMM that stops it from running.) I'm currently working on getting Hotsync to work with my USB cradle using the visor driver, but there's some problems with that. I'll post a dump of the messages I get and see if I can make something happen. Thanks for the help :). James
James Liggett wrote:
Hi Uwe, I figured out how to install Palm Desktop, perhaps this might prove useful to someone:
1. Install native Windows Installer manually. To do this, install dcom98 first. Then run instmsia.exe. The install will complain, but it will leave behind all the files you need in Windows\Installer\InstMsi0. Copy all the files in there to Windows\system, and set msi.dll and msiexec.exe to native.
2. Install Windows Script 5.6. You can download it from here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0a8a18f6-249c-4a72-... Keep in mind that it's the English version though. To install it, set setupapi to builtin and run the file.
3. Run Palm Desktop setup like normal, and it will install everything you need.
Of course, running palm desktop is a different story (there is a crash in WinMM that stops it from running.) I'm currently working on getting Hotsync to work with my USB cradle using the visor driver, but there's some problems with that. I'll post a dump of the messages I get and see if I can make something happen. Thanks for the help :).
What version of Palm Desktop is this? This would make a great howto, I would add it to the proper version myself if I knew the version. Please consider becoming a maintainer for this app. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=688 -- Tony Lambregts
Hi Tony, This is Desktop 4.1 that came with my Tungsten T. I've considered becoming a maintainer for the app, but being the extremely neurotic perfectionist I am, I've yet to decide what exactly my "reason" for becoming a maintainer will be, but I will be putting in the request eventually. Kind regards, James Liggett On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 19:42 -0600, Tony Lambregts wrote:
James Liggett wrote:
Hi Uwe, I figured out how to install Palm Desktop, perhaps this might prove useful to someone:
1. Install native Windows Installer manually. To do this, install dcom98 first. Then run instmsia.exe. The install will complain, but it will leave behind all the files you need in Windows\Installer\InstMsi0. Copy all the files in there to Windows\system, and set msi.dll and msiexec.exe to native.
2. Install Windows Script 5.6. You can download it from here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0a8a18f6-249c-4a72-... Keep in mind that it's the English version though. To install it, set setupapi to builtin and run the file.
3. Run Palm Desktop setup like normal, and it will install everything you need.
Of course, running palm desktop is a different story (there is a crash in WinMM that stops it from running.) I'm currently working on getting Hotsync to work with my USB cradle using the visor driver, but there's some problems with that. I'll post a dump of the messages I get and see if I can make something happen. Thanks for the help :).
What version of Palm Desktop is this? This would make a great howto, I would add it to the proper version myself if I knew the version.
Please consider becoming a maintainer for this app.
http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=688
--
Tony Lambregts
"James" == James Liggett <jrliggett(a)cox.net> writes:
James> Hi Uwe, I figured out how to install Palm Desktop, perhaps this James> might prove useful to someone: James> 1. Install native Windows Installer manually. To do this, install James> dcom98 first. Then run instmsia.exe. The install will complain, James> but it will leave behind all the files you need in James> Windows\Installer\InstMsi0. Copy all the files in there to James> Windows\system, and set msi.dll and msiexec.exe to native. James> 2. Install Windows Script 5.6. You can download it from here: James> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0a8a18f6-249c-4a72-... James> Keep in mind that it's the English version though. To install it, James> set setupapi to builtin and run the file. This is what winetools does too... James> 3. Run Palm Desktop setup like normal, and it will install James> everything you need. James> Of course, running palm desktop is a different story (there is a James> crash in WinMM that stops it from running.) I'm currently working What crash? There is a known problem with a broken mircoquill heap checking library http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2004/09/0193.html James> on getting Hotsync to work with my USB cradle using the visor James> driver, but there's some problems with that. I'll post a dump of James> the messages I get and see if I can make something happen. Thanks James> for the help :). While I see chances with a serial connection, USB has probably a long way to go. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
Uwe, While it's true that wine can't access USB directly, i thought it might be able to interface with a usbserial driver like visor used by things like pilot-link. At least theoretically anyway, since these are USB to serial converters. Maybe I'm wrong about that though. Maybe I should look at the pilot-link source. That might yield some clues as to how these drivers really work. James Liggett On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 11:28 +0200, Uwe Bonnes wrote:
"James" == James Liggett <jrliggett(a)cox.net> writes:
James> Hi Uwe, I figured out how to install Palm Desktop, perhaps this James> might prove useful to someone:
James> 1. Install native Windows Installer manually. To do this, install James> dcom98 first. Then run instmsia.exe. The install will complain, James> but it will leave behind all the files you need in James> Windows\Installer\InstMsi0. Copy all the files in there to James> Windows\system, and set msi.dll and msiexec.exe to native.
James> 2. Install Windows Script 5.6. You can download it from here: James> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0a8a18f6-249c-4a72-... James> Keep in mind that it's the English version though. To install it, James> set setupapi to builtin and run the file.
This is what winetools does too...
James> 3. Run Palm Desktop setup like normal, and it will install James> everything you need.
James> Of course, running palm desktop is a different story (there is a James> crash in WinMM that stops it from running.) I'm currently working What crash? There is a known problem with a broken mircoquill heap checking library http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2004/09/0193.html
James> on getting Hotsync to work with my USB cradle using the visor James> driver, but there's some problems with that. I'll post a dump of James> the messages I get and see if I can make something happen. Thanks James> for the help :).
While I see chances with a serial connection, USB has probably a long way to go.
Bye
"James" == James Liggett <jrliggett(a)cox.net> writes:
James> Uwe, While it's true that wine can't access USB directly, i James> thought it might be able to interface with a usbserial driver James> like visor used by things like pilot-link. At least theoretically James> anyway, since these are USB to serial converters. Maybe I'm wrong James> about that though. Maybe I should look at the pilot-link James> source. That might yield some clues as to how these drivers James> really work. If the pilot link accesses "comX", even via usb, it can work. I have the JTAG ACR ICE adapter working with AVRSTUDIO -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
That's excellent news. But what about the GetCommState complaints? I'm looking at the pilot-link source now to see if I can figure out a way to get some kind of interface set up. Thanks, James On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 21:36 +0200, Uwe Bonnes wrote:
"James" == James Liggett <jrliggett(a)cox.net> writes:
James> Uwe, While it's true that wine can't access USB directly, i James> thought it might be able to interface with a usbserial driver James> like visor used by things like pilot-link. At least theoretically James> anyway, since these are USB to serial converters. Maybe I'm wrong James> about that though. Maybe I should look at the pilot-link James> source. That might yield some clues as to how these drivers James> really work.
If the pilot link accesses "comX", even via usb, it can work. I have the JTAG ACR ICE adapter working with AVRSTUDIO
Hi Uwe, I checked out the link you gave me, but it doesn't seem consistent with what I get. According to WineDbg, the problem is in lolvldrv.c at line 614. Not really sure what it does though. It looks like a garden variety NULL pointer problem to me. Here's the dump for more info. Regards, James On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 11:28 +0200, Uwe Bonnes wrote:
"James" == James Liggett <jrliggett(a)cox.net> writes:
James> Hi Uwe, I figured out how to install Palm Desktop, perhaps this James> might prove useful to someone:
James> 1. Install native Windows Installer manually. To do this, install James> dcom98 first. Then run instmsia.exe. The install will complain, James> but it will leave behind all the files you need in James> Windows\Installer\InstMsi0. Copy all the files in there to James> Windows\system, and set msi.dll and msiexec.exe to native.
James> 2. Install Windows Script 5.6. You can download it from here: James> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0a8a18f6-249c-4a72-... James> Keep in mind that it's the English version though. To install it, James> set setupapi to builtin and run the file.
This is what winetools does too...
James> 3. Run Palm Desktop setup like normal, and it will install James> everything you need.
James> Of course, running palm desktop is a different story (there is a James> crash in WinMM that stops it from running.) I'm currently working What crash? There is a known problem with a broken mircoquill heap checking library http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2004/09/0193.html
James> on getting Hotsync to work with my USB cradle using the visor James> driver, but there's some problems with that. I'll post a dump of James> the messages I get and see if I can make something happen. Thanks James> for the help :).
While I see chances with a serial connection, USB has probably a long way to go.
Bye
I'm trying to install the Windows Installer using Winetools. Unfortunately, it stops about 60% through the "Preparing Installation" phase with the message "The installer has insufficient privileges to modify this file: C:\Config Msi\444860.rbf" Anyone know what is going wrong ? System: Mandriva Limited Edition 2005 Wine 20050524 Winetools 2.1.2 The output from winetools is [andrew(a)zeus Windows]$ winetools LD_PRELOAD= found gettext in path detecting Wine version... done. Drive C: is /home/andrew/.wine/drive_c Wine 20050524 wine is executed as wine Parameters are --noexit Browser is /usr/local/firefox/firefox. WINEVER is "20050524". Calls to wine are executed as "wine". Config is /home/andrew/.wine/winetools.log. CDROM is /mnt/cdrom2. Choice is Install Windows system software \*new\* fake Windows drive software installation verified by /home/andrew/.wine/winetools.log *new* fake Windows drive = installed at 08.07.2005 22:04:06 dependency \*new\* dcom98.exe software installation verified by /home/andrew/.wine/winetools.log dcom98.exe = installed at 08.07.2005 22:04:50 dependency dcom98.exe fulfilled Microsoft Internet Explorer.* Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 SP1 and Internet Tools software installation verified by registry value dependency Microsoft Choice is Windows Installer InstMsiA.exe software installation verified by /home/andrew/.wine/winetools.log 1709160 WINEDEBUG="fixme-all" WINEDLLOVERRIDES="" wine ./InstMsiA.exe waiting for wineservers to exit... [andrew(a)zeus Windows]$ Andrew You can be the captain I will draw the chart Sailing into destiny Closer to the heart Closer to the Heart by Rush (A Farewell to Kings, 1977) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Liggett wrote:
Hi Uwe, I figured out how to install Palm Desktop, perhaps this might prove useful to someone:
1. Install native Windows Installer manually. To do this, install dcom98 first. Then run instmsia.exe. The install will complain, but it will leave behind all the files you need in Windows\Installer\InstMsi0. Copy all the files in there to Windows\system, and set msi.dll and msiexec.exe to native.
2. Install Windows Script 5.6. You can download it from here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0a8a18f6-249c-4a72-... Keep in mind that it's the English version though. To install it, set setupapi to builtin and run the file.
3. Run Palm Desktop setup like normal, and it will install everything you need.
Of course, running palm desktop is a different story (there is a crash in WinMM that stops it from running.) I'm currently working on getting Hotsync to work with my USB cradle using the visor driver, but there's some problems with that. I'll post a dump of the messages I get and see if I can make something happen. Thanks for the help :).
James
Hmmm... never seen that before. I never did use version 20050524, so there could be some regressions that I'm not aware of. I would ditch this version and go with the current one, 20050628. But there's a catch: They got rid of the config file and replaced it with registry entries. As of yet, Winetools isn't yet aware of this, so you can't use it. But getting windows installer to work is easy: Run instmsia.exe. The installer will complain, but it will dump everything you need into Windows\Installer\InstMsi0. Copy all the stuff in there to \Windows \system. Then set msi.dll and misexec.exe to native, and Windows Installer will work. Good luck. ;-) James Liggett On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 00:15 +0100, Andrew Neil Ramage wrote:
I'm trying to install the Windows Installer using Winetools. Unfortunately, it stops about 60% through the "Preparing Installation" phase with the message "The installer has insufficient privileges to modify this file: C:\Config Msi\444860.rbf" Anyone know what is going wrong ?
System: Mandriva Limited Edition 2005 Wine 20050524 Winetools 2.1.2
The output from winetools is
[andrew(a)zeus Windows]$ winetools LD_PRELOAD= found gettext in path detecting Wine version... done. Drive C: is /home/andrew/.wine/drive_c Wine 20050524 wine is executed as wine Parameters are --noexit Browser is /usr/local/firefox/firefox. WINEVER is "20050524". Calls to wine are executed as "wine". Config is /home/andrew/.wine/winetools.log. CDROM is /mnt/cdrom2. Choice is Install Windows system software \*new\* fake Windows drive software installation verified by /home/andrew/.wine/winetools.log *new* fake Windows drive = installed at 08.07.2005 22:04:06 dependency \*new\* dcom98.exe software installation verified by /home/andrew/.wine/winetools.log dcom98.exe = installed at 08.07.2005 22:04:50 dependency dcom98.exe fulfilled Microsoft Internet Explorer.* Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 SP1 and Internet Tools software installation verified by registry value dependency Microsoft Choice is Windows Installer InstMsiA.exe software installation verified by /home/andrew/.wine/winetools.log 1709160 WINEDEBUG="fixme-all" WINEDLLOVERRIDES="" wine ./InstMsiA.exe waiting for wineservers to exit...
[andrew(a)zeus Windows]$
Andrew
You can be the captain I will draw the chart Sailing into destiny Closer to the heart
Closer to the Heart by Rush (A Farewell to Kings, 1977)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
James Liggett wrote:
Hi Uwe, I figured out how to install Palm Desktop, perhaps this might prove useful to someone:
1. Install native Windows Installer manually. To do this, install dcom98 first. Then run instmsia.exe. The install will complain, but it will leave behind all the files you need in Windows\Installer\InstMsi0. Copy all the files in there to Windows\system, and set msi.dll and msiexec.exe to native.
2. Install Windows Script 5.6. You can download it from here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0a8a18f6-249c-4a72-... Keep in mind that it's the English version though. To install it, set setupapi to builtin and run the file.
3. Run Palm Desktop setup like normal, and it will install everything you need.
Of course, running palm desktop is a different story (there is a crash in WinMM that stops it from running.) I'm currently working on getting Hotsync to work with my USB cradle using the visor driver, but there's some problems with that. I'll post a dump of the messages I get and see if I can make something happen. Thanks for the help :).
James
That's what I did initially. Unfortunately, it doesn't work. :( It tries to install, but skips right to the end and doesn't install anything. But I'm using a newer cvs build now. I can try it again if you want. James On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 00:06 +0900, Mike McCormack wrote:
James Liggett wrote:
\system. Then set msi.dll and misexec.exe to native, and Windows Installer will work. Good luck. ;-)
It would be nice if you could try use the builtin msi and msiexec.exe and report success or failure with it...
Mike
James Liggett wrote:
That's what I did initially. Unfortunately, it doesn't work. :( It tries to install, but skips right to the end and doesn't install anything. But I'm using a newer cvs build now. I can try it again if you want.
James
On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 00:06 +0900, Mike McCormack wrote:
James Liggett wrote:
\system. Then set msi.dll and misexec.exe to native, and Windows Installer will work. Good luck. ;-)
It would be nice if you could try use the builtin msi and msiexec.exe and report success or failure with it...
Mike
The problem appears to be that the InstallShield installer expects objects in the Running Object Table to be shared between processes, but this is not the case at the moment and is a fairly big piece of work. It needs to be done eventually, but I'm not likely to start work on this any time soon. -- Rob Shearman
Interesting... What would implementing this entail? James On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 16:09 -0500, Robert Shearman wrote:
James Liggett wrote:
That's what I did initially. Unfortunately, it doesn't work. :( It tries to install, but skips right to the end and doesn't install anything. But I'm using a newer cvs build now. I can try it again if you want.
James
On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 00:06 +0900, Mike McCormack wrote:
James Liggett wrote:
\system. Then set msi.dll and misexec.exe to native, and Windows Installer will work. Good luck. ;-)
It would be nice if you could try use the builtin msi and msiexec.exe and report success or failure with it...
Mike
The problem appears to be that the InstallShield installer expects objects in the Running Object Table to be shared between processes, but this is not the case at the moment and is a fairly big piece of work. It needs to be done eventually, but I'm not likely to start work on this any time soon.
James Liggett wrote:
The problem appears to be that the InstallShield installer expects objects in the Running Object Table to be shared between processes, but this is not the case at the moment and is a fairly big piece of work. It needs to be done eventually, but I'm not likely to start work on this any time soon.
Interesting... What would implementing this entail?
It means maintaining the global ROT in rpcss and calling into it to notifying it when client register or revoke objects. The best way of doing this is using MIDL-generated DCE/RPC code. The functions will then be called in pretty much the same way as the local functions. This was a conscious design decision when I rewrote the running object table code so that it would be easier to make global. A good place to look for the IDL code for this is Samba. Let me know if you need any more technical help. -- Rob Shearman
Am Samstag, 9. Juli 2005 17:06 schrieb Mike McCormack:
It would be nice if you could try use the builtin msi and msiexec.exe and report success or failure with it...
As i said at the verry beginning: The Installer doesn't install any file on my disk. It displays two start dialogs (Install Shield and Windows Installer) and the finish dialog and hangs than. This happens after starting from scratch, installing dcom98, ie6 and windows scripting host. I have attached the console output, and the list of hanging processes Bye Stefan
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